brianstl Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Joe Exotic has the Corona. 2020 just keeps bringing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, brianstl said: It takes six weeks or less to process a tax return, print the check and mail the check. Why would you believe this is going to take three times as long? I have no idea. Just reporting what the national news reported. National news not the cable news. I am not so jaded that I believe they have a political agenda with that report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon-Balls Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 The right doesn't want to give nearly enough, the left wants to be overly reliant on slow, inefficient bureaucratic systems (i.e. means testing the cash payments). We the people all lose as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, willie said: I have no idea. Just reporting what the national news reported. National news not the cable news. I am not so jaded that I believe they have a political agenda with that report. I wouldn’t say that either. I would wonder on the motivations of the person/people that fed them that info. It just makes absolutely zero sense for this to take more than 3 times as long as getting a tax return in the mail when there is one less step in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, NH said: The Census' 2018 Poverty Report (link here) lists 38.1 million Americans in poverty, so I'm guessing that was the same figure referenced in the original post. The Poverty threshold varies by family size and age. For a single person under age 65, the poverty threshold is an annual income of $13,064. For a family of four, the poverty threshold is $25,900. These thresholds are adjusted annually for changes in inflation. There is no geographic adjustment for poverty thresholds. Of the 38.1 million Americans in poverty (per the above definition), 17.3 million report total family income of less than or equal to half their poverty threshold. That's what I read. I was wondering what the $2.00 per day was referencing. I'm not dismissing poverty and don't think anyone should live on $1000 per month in the USA but those 38k people don't actually pay rent, buy food and healthcare for $13k per year. They need to include the value of the services they are provided such as food stamps, housing, etc... to determine the level they actually live at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, HenryB said: He discussed that in the briefing. There is a special website to assist those people. They want to do everything possible to get the money in people's hands quickly. His minions have taken over the government. None of these acting and real cabinet folks have zero credibility now. All that the looney tea party/contract with America/37% deplorables have caused what they claimed to come true. Those 2 doctors are afraid to say what they really to say with that ignoramus stalking the stage. guarantee they will be trashing everything about the man once they are safe from his vindictive power. billikenbill and willie like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Steve...please read this demented post and explain to me why this thread is not closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, HenryB said: Steve...please read this demented post and explain to me why this thread is not closed? Henry it would close if you would let it. rgbilliken likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, slufanskip said: That's what I read. I was wondering what the $2.00 per day was referencing. I'm not dismissing poverty and don't think anyone should live on $1000 per month in the USA but those 38k people don't actually pay rent, buy food and healthcare for $13k per year. They need to include the value of the services they are provided such as food stamps, housing, etc... to determine the level they actually live at. I have no clue where the $2 per day comes from, I was just trying to provide more complete info on the topic. To your second point, fortunately we have measures that provide some of what you’re looking for. If you are curious, I would recommend looking into the Supplemental Poverty Measure, which is also published by the Census Bureau and accounts for credits, taxes, transfers, etc. such as public housing and food assistance programs. slufanskip likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, willie said: Henry it would close if you would let it. Please explain, Willie? Yes, I could not post but would that eliminate all the crap being spewed? I was very gentlemanly to you. I answered your question in a reasonable, factual manner. Did you have a problem with that? Meanwhile...did you just see the hate that was spewed by alma man? This thread does nothing but breed divisiveness. It should be ended. That being said, I reserve my option to share my thoughts until it does. I do not not launch vicious attacks on others and I always try to support views with evidence. Meanwhile I have been told to "eff off" by some of the classy posters. You completely ignore almaman inflammatory rant...why is that? Like I've said several times...end this thread. By the way...saw you good posted almaman's insane rant...real classy, willie.I am sure it will make his day to have a such a staunch supporter. Hope it makes you fee real proud, willie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyRican Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Where is John Henry when we need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Guys and gals, no need to worry. Jared Kushner is now on the case. We’ll be fine. Also, @Old guy, this should disturb you a lot given your radical response to ppl on this board who at least have a scintilla of medical knowledge. rgbilliken likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 13 minutes ago, DirtyRican said: Where is John Henry when we need him? Where is @BACKHANDtheRICANwhen we need him? DirtyRican likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, HenryB said: Please explain, Willie? Yes, I could not post but would that eliminate all the crap being spewed? I was very gentlemanly to you. I answered your question in a reasonable, factual manner. Did you have a problem with that? Meanwhile...did you just see the hate that was spewed by alma man? This thread does nothing but breed divisiveness. It should be ended. That being said, I reserve my option to share my thoughts until it does. I do not not launch vicious attacks on others and I always try to support views with evidence. Meanwhile I have been told to "eff off" by some of the classy posters. You completely ignore almaman inflammatory rant...why is that? Like I've said several times...end this thread. By the way...saw you good posted almaman's insane rant...real classy, willie.I am sure it will make his day to have a such a staunch supporter. Hope it makes you fee real proud, willie? This is my point it won’t die because here I am replying to you. You obviously think Trump walks on water. Many on here and in the country think he is dangerously incompetent. You’re crap is someone else’s reality. That’s politics. We all think our opinion is the correct opinion. I am being more political than I want but I believe you attacked the Obama years. My opinion those were pretty good eight years But that is an opinion . Unfortunately we can’t express those opinions without becoming hysterical . My opinions aline more to the almaman’s than yours This is someone who called himself a republican for 40 some years . Basketbill and BilliesBy40 like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, willie said: This is my point it won’t die because here I am replying to you. You obviously think Trump walks on water. Many on here and in the country think he is dangerously incompetent. You’re crap is someone else’s reality. That’s politics. We all think our opinion is the correct opinion. I am being more political than I want but I believe you attacked the Obama years. My opinion those were pretty good eight years But that is an opinion . Unfortunately we can’t express those opinions without becoming hysterical . My opinions aline more to the almaman’s than yours This is someone who called himself a republican for 40 some years . You support what almanan said...really? Must be quite a burden carrying all that hatred around every day. Go back and read it again...you are better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, brianstl said: Joe Exotic has the Corona. 2020 just keeps bringing it. Thoughts and prayers to his husband. Also, screw that beoyotch Carol Baskin. JohnnyJumpUp likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, moytoy12 said: Thoughts and prayers to his husband. Also, screw that beoyotch Carol Baskin. Carole probably sent Joe a blanket contaminated with the virus. thetorch likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Just now, brianstl said: Carole probably sent Joe a blanket contaminated with the virus. Probably? brianstl likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, HenryB said: You support what almanan said...really? Must be quite a burden carrying all that hatred around every day. Go back and read it again...you are better than that. Don’t know what he is trying to say with his tea party stuff but yes I think he has fired capable cabinet people and replaced them with adoring yes men. By the way Mnuchin is probably very good. And yes the Doctors are being controlled. The only thing I hate is the political discord between the far right and the far left. I am very much a centrist. Unfortunately be a centrist is a rare being in today’s politics. Edited April 3, 2020 by willie Content slufanskip likes this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 43 minutes ago, willie said: This is my point it won’t die because here I am replying to you. You obviously think Trump walks on water. Many on here and in the country think he is dangerously incompetent. You’re crap is someone else’s reality. That’s politics. We all think our opinion is the correct opinion. I am being more political than I want but I believe you attacked the Obama years. My opinion those were pretty good eight years But that is an opinion . Unfortunately we can’t express those opinions without becoming hysterical . My opinions aline more to the almaman’s than yours This is someone who called himself a republican for 40 some years . The only thing good about the nobama years is they are over and i thank god President Trump had erased most of the executive orders and horrible legislation passed during those years that nearly ruined America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, willie said: Don’t know what he is trying to say with his tea party stuff but yes I think he has fired capable cabinet people and replaced them with adoring yes men. By the way Mnuchin is probably very good. And yes the Doctors are being controlled. The only thing I hate is the political discord between the far right and the far left. I am very much a centrist. Unfortunately be a centrist is a rare being in today’s politics. Willie i love you, but your politics are not centrist. Your not socialist left but you are not centrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: Willie i love you, but your politics are not centrist. Your not socialist left but you are not centrist. I consider myself a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. There is no such think as a fiscal conservative anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: The only thing good about the nobama years is they are over and i thank god President Trump had erased most of the executive orders and horrible legislation passed during those years that nearly ruined America. Sincerely curious which executive orders and legislation from Obama’s years nearly ruined America. Please explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 55 minutes ago, billiken_roy said: The only thing good about the nobama years is they are over and i thank god President Trump had erased most of the executive orders and horrible legislation passed during those years that nearly ruined America. Roy I know you wear a Maga hat but if you are talking about Obamacare you must be kidding. The republicans have no replacement plan never have. As I stated earlier it was a pretty good eight years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Spoon-Balls said: The right doesn't want to give nearly enough, the left wants to be overly reliant on slow, inefficient bureaucratic systems (i.e. means testing the cash payments). We the people all lose as a result. What is the matter Spoon-balls, you do not want to say what kind of a Dr. you are going to be? I will guess it will be psychiatry, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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