slu72 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 It wouldn't hurt to get a backup for Yuri. He avg'd 32 mpg this year that's a lot for such a high energy guy. The tired factor may have come into play on some of his TO's. Like a shooter losing his legs, a PG who handles the rock as much as Yuri could get mentally tired and make some mistakes. But if Russell is in the mix, we still need a backup PF. Doesn't that indicate we may have two departures from the current roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, slu72 said: It wouldn't hurt to get a backup for Yuri. He avg'd 32 mpg this year that's a lot for such a high energy guy. The tired factor may have come into play on some of his TO's. Like a shooter losing his legs, a PG who handles the rock as much as Yuri could get mentally tired and make some mistakes. But if Russell is in the mix, we still need a backup PF. Doesn't that indicate we may have two departures from the current roster? Looking at the video, he reminds me of Tay Weaver with his shooting, but with more playmaking ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I have no idea if this rumor has any legs but Russell is a better fit than McKinney. Russell is basically Tay Weaver with slightly better handles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: I have no idea if this rumor has any legs but Russell is a better fit than McKinney. Russell is basically Tay Weaver with slightly better handles. -and is Russell a bit taller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: I have no idea if this rumor has any legs but Russell is a better fit than McKinney. Russell is basically Tay Weaver with slightly better handles. Beat you by 3 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Ok, it was Lap 5 today, Frank said "I think they're going to end of taking this kid from Vashon. He's Yuri's cousin. Kid can really shoot." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said: Russell is basically Tay Weaver with slightly better handles. Is he that good of a shooter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, ACE said: He's Yuri's cousin. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Frank not always on the mark, but he has been pretty spot on with his local SLU recruiting scoops during the Ford era - Goodwin, Yuri, Gordon, Hargrove and even the Mike Lewis transfer, he was spot on and had it early on. He clearly has a good source on the staff or close to the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, wgstl said: hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm The other potential bonus - could help land Kern next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, wgstl said: Is he that good of a shooter? Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, ACE said: The other potential bonus - could help land Kern next year. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills_06 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, ACE said: Frank not always on the mark, but he has been pretty spot on with his local SLU recruiting scoops during the Ford era - Goodwin, Yuri, Gordon, Hargrove and even the Mike Lewis transfer, he was spot on and had it early on. He clearly has a good source on the staff or close to the program. Unless a top local recruit commits to a school and then decommits randomly. In that case you will hear Frank say he think the kid is a SLU lean but was poached by Martin (Waston/Pickett/Tilmon). This is him decommitting because of coaching change so don't think it would apply. RiseAndGrind likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Well the Country is pretty much shut down so here's a 10 min video . It's 11 months old so I assume he's better now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=zmRaSihiEa4&feature=emb_logo slufanskip likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliesBy40 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 There are worse ideas than adding a shooter who could help us establish roots with one of the area's top basketball programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 ok ok im now all in for Russell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, wgstl said: ok ok im now all in for Russell If it makes you feel better, Frank's "sources" claim that he proved to be much better than a SEMO level recruit this past season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, ACE said: If it makes you feel better, Frank's "sources" claim that he proved to be much better than a SEMO level recruit this past season. With recruiting locked down for a month I'm guessing it will be a while before we hear anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Frank was asked "compare Russell to someone on the SLU team". "There isn't anyone. This kid can shoot." "I think they (SLU) are going to take this kid." "Told by more than one, this kid was under recruited." https://590thefan.com/radio-shows/press-box/ Today's Segment 1, 21:30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Watching that video, why wouldn't you want him? Not only can he shoot from deep, but I love the fact that he had quite a few mid-range shots, including some teardrops and he clearly excels at driving to the basket. What is not shown on the video is his ball handling skills but it sounds, from other comment, like he has the ability to break a press or push the ball up the court like Yuri. I noticed that Coach played YC and TW together once in a while so maybe there would be enough "Guard" minutes available (maybe 45 per game to be split by those two. For example, 30 for Yuri and 15 for Russell next year. I also like the Vashon inroads aspect of this possible signing, but if it came down to one of two, I would prefer D Houston. We really need a big, rebound-eating PF to step into the HF role, especially since we will not only be losing HF's rebounds after next year, but also JG's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I really like him. Finishes with both hands. Has a knack for when to drive into contact and when to avoid Great feel for how and when to use a little hesitation move with the dribble and a nice subtle head fake off the catch. Great change of pace and sense of when to use it. Great floater with both hands when he gets in the lane. Very quick release and pretty good form. Good passer. Compared to Yuri, he clearly isn't the passer Yuri is, but he's a much more polished offensive player in regards to his own scoring ability. bauman likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: With recruiting locked down for a month I'm guessing it will be a while before we hear anything. I hope you are wrong on this. As I recall, the current ban is on in-person VISITS. Calls and texts are still ok and a kid (Russell or Houston could commit at this time as I read it. Plus getting PR would mean we didn't strike out on local recruiting this year. Edited March 17, 2020 by bauman additional comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinert310 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 I agree with pretty much everything everyone has said about Russell. The kid can obviously shoot it. But what impressed me most, for a smaller kid, was his creativity and body control when driving inside. He can finish with the floater, but can also finish with contact. You can never have too many natural scorers. I’m interested to see how this plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, slufanskip said: I really like him. Finishes with both hands. Has a knack for when to drive into contact and when to avoid Great feel for how and when to use a little hesitation move with the dribble and a nice subtle head fake off the catch. Great change of pace and sense of when to use it. Great floater with both hands when he gets in the lane. Very quick release and pretty good form. Good passer. Compared to Yuri, he clearly isn't the passer Yuri is, but he's a much more polished offensive player in regards to his own scoring ability. You can safely ignore the interior scoring in that highlight video. It's a highlight video. In real life, Russell struggles to score in the paint. At the A-10 level, he will be almost exclusively a three-point shooter offensively. Maybe after a couple of years of bulking up he will capable of doing more. slufanskip and SLU_Nick like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach314 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 hours ago, RiseAndGrind said: I was really into the prospect of taking Mario McKinney so I guess I'm being inconsistent in not understanding why we would want Russell? Can @Coach314provide any insight? Well...if the idea is to find someone to backup Yuri as well as get minutes alongside him Russell definitely could fill that role. I heard last week that there was some interest from Marquette and SLU and that SWIC was waiting in the wings if he didn't find anything...but I didn't think much of the SLU mention because of Yuri and the guard situation going into next year. Yuri, Jacobs, Goodwin, Thatch with Perkins, Jimerson, Hargrove filling spots on the wing along with Strickland and Lorentsson joining the crew. They also have interest in a big as well. With the roster as it is at the moment it doesn't seem like a good fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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