RiseAndGrind Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, Box and Won said: He's a jackoff. Yeah but he hates Mizzou and Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Yeah but he hates Mizzou and Martin. Gives me hope that Mizzou will still suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, Box and Won said: He's a jackoff. 2 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Yeah but he hates Mizzou and Martin. I understand why many don't like him. I think he can be entertaining. I think he actually knows his stuff when talking college sports as long as he avoids his Tennessee area bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, brianstl said: I understand why many don't like him. I think he can be entertaining. I think he actually knows his stuff when talking college sports as long as he avoids his Tennessee area bias. Clay is really intelligent. I'm a big fan of his work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbj14 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 2 hours ago, slufan13 said: Any truth to the rumors that illinois is going after Fred Hoiberg? As a huge fan of the Bulls I certainly hope so. He belongs in college, and has appeared overmatched in the NBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Does anyone think they overpaid for mediocrity? He is the Mike Leake of coaching meaning they had a major hole to fill and needed to pay whatever to plug the whole. Cuonzo was the best FA out there so they paid they going price. I feel the hire is blah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseOfTheBillikens Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Franchise_08 said: Does anyone think they overpaid for mediocrity? He is the Mike Leake of coaching meaning they had a major hole to fill and needed to pay whatever to plug the whole. Cuonzo was the best FA out there so they paid they going price. I feel the hire is blah. Yep they definitely over paid but the Porter thing will take the casual fans eyes away from the money and make it look like a great hire. I've seen it as a 7 year deal and a 5 year deal. 7 years is a very very long time, can't imagine that turning out well long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, RiseOfTheBillikens said: Yep they definitely over paid but the Porter thing will take the casual fans eyes away from the money and make it look like a great hire. I've seen it as a 7 year deal and a 5 year deal. 7 years is a very very long time, can't imagine that turning out well long-term. I believe it's a 5-year deal but additional years can be tacked on per each 20 win season (up to 7 years) Clay Travis is a total fukbag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I see a lot of name calling but not a lot of explanations as to why clay Travis is a "fuokbag". Seems like the same kind of hate Davey Pageviews gets with barstool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Cuonzo has averaged 22 wins the last 8 seasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 For the people who might actually know, should we be worried about the Gordon commitment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Westy03 said: For the people who might actually know, should we be worried about the Gordon commitment? I have no inside information on that direct question, but I know that Gordon was high on Mizzou and SLU (obviously) when he made his verbal commitment. With Cuonzo now at Mizzou and them potentially getting the Porter clan who Gordon won the Peach Jam championship with, that has to at least make Mizzou more attractive to him. So I think we should be more worried than we were 24 hours ago, but no idea to what extent. I tend to always have some concern with early verbal commitments sticking with their commitment, but that is more from what I see in football recruiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 minute ago, TheChosenOne said: I have no inside information on that direct question, but I know that Gordon was high on Mizzou and SLU (obviously) when he made his verbal commitment. With Cuonzo now at Mizzou and them potentially getting the Porter clan who Gordon won the Peach Jam championship with, that has to at least make Mizzou more attractive to him. So I think we should be more worried than we were 24 hours ago, but no idea to what extent. I tend to always have some concern with early verbal commitments sticking with their commitment, but that is more from what I see in football recruiting. Michael Porter won't be there. You keep Tate, you keep Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 25 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: I see a lot of name calling but not a lot of explanations as to why clay Travis is a "fuokbag". Seems like the same kind of hate Davey Pageviews gets with barstool http://deadspin.com/no-halfwit-donald-sterling-isnt-the-real-victim-here-1575258639 https://www.google.com/amp/www.grizzlybearblues.com/platform/amp/2015/1/30/7952383/clay-travis-is-a-preening-jackass "really intelligent" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Michael Porter won't be there. You keep Tate, you keep Gordon True, Porter Jr would be in the NBA during Gordon's freshman year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, majerus mojo said: http://deadspin.com/no-halfwit-donald-sterling-isnt-the-real-victim-here-1575258639 https://www.google.com/amp/www.grizzlybearblues.com/platform/amp/2015/1/30/7952383/clay-travis-is-a-preening-jackass "really intelligent" Albert Berneko is the king of bloggers who think they are journalists. I refuse to click any of his high and mighty clickbait nonsense. This is the loser blogger version of a rap beef. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Michael Porter won't be there. You keep Tate, you keep Gordon I realize that, but potentially having him and his family at Mizzou (would also be on a team with Jontay if this happens) is just another relationship in Columbia that is different than what was there when he committed. Whether or not this ends up impacting his commitment remains to be seen, but there is no doubt Mizzou is a more attractive option for him today than it was 24 hours ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I seem to recall that Gordon also cited staying in St. Louis was the best move for him because he'd have his family and friends nearby. Now, of course, Columbia's not that far away, so that may be a non factor. Also, he probably wasn't too excited about playing for Kim Anderson on a train wreck of a team. I'll trust that Ford and Tate will coddle him and keep him here, but, because we're Billiken fans, we always have to have something to fret about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 That's right let's all start the speculation of who we are going to loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 27 minutes ago, slu72 said: I seem to recall that Gordon also cited staying in St. Louis was the best move for him because he'd have his family and friends nearby. Now, of course, Columbia's not that far away, so that may be a non factor. Also, he probably wasn't too excited about playing for Kim Anderson on a train wreck of a team. I'll trust that Ford and Tate will coddle him and keep him here, but, because we're Billiken fans, we always have to have something to fret about. He also had to know it was very unlikely the Kim Anderson trainwreck era would last until he graduated HS. If he had any interest in playing in Columbia for a different coach, he could have just waited to commit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Franchise_08 said: Does anyone think they overpaid for mediocrity? He is the Mike Leake of coaching meaning they had a major hole to fill and needed to pay whatever to plug the whole. Cuonzo was the best FA out there so they paid they going price. I feel the hire is blah. Leake was signed to be a #4 starter/innings eater, so I think overpaying for "blah" is a little more acceptable in that context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 48 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Albert Berneko is the king of bloggers who think they are journalists. I refuse to click any of his high and mighty clickbait nonsense. This is the loser blogger version of a rap beef. Not sure how'd you know who wrote it without clicking on it ha, but sure. You asked, I attempted an answer. Also odd to stan for Pageviews (who I like) in one post and then 'bash' blogging in the next, but again, sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 1 hour ago, STL Hoops Insider said: Cuonzo has averaged 22 wins the last 8 seasons In his nine season before taking over Mizzou, Counzo averaged 20.66 wins to go along with a total of 2 NCAA appearnces and 4 NIT appearances. In his nine seasons prior to taking over SLU, Travis averaged 20 wins to go along with 5 NCAA appearances and and 2 NIT appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 It will be interesting to see how quickly Porter Sr is announced as part of the staff. I don't know if he had contract that went beyond this season at UW. I wonder if he let's himself sit on the market for a little bit now to see if he can get a bigger dollar offer for himself now that everyone knows he and his kids are available if a better offer comes along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Cuanzo Martin getting paid that much on a 7 year contract reminds me of the Bears signing Cutler. A lot of promise, a lot of money, and a lot of faith being put in. Lets hope he turns out just like Cutler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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