kshoe Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/st...+on+SLU's+slate Includes comments on Jucos and Tommie... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 that is exactly the kind of offseason report the billiken fandom and the casual fan we are trying to convert needs to read. now if it can become a weekly feature...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 The Athletic Department releases the non-conference schedule (and not the entire schedule) and gets a nifty plug on page 1 of the Post sports section, to wit: SLU will play tougher schedule The Billikens should get a boost to their overall ratings percentage index with a nonconference schedule that includes Gonzaga and Southern Illinois University Carbondale. Coach Brad Soderberg said a stronger slate will be more attractive to the NCAA Tournament selection committee. D6 --- And then there are about 10 column-inches of story inside, include more than just about the schedule. Was I dreaming, or was a similar scenario posted on this board not two days ago. (Disclaimer: I've never met Stu, I don't communicate with Stu at the office, and I did absolutely nothing to turn the posted hypothetical into reality.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 It's a shame that our Athletic Dept. PR group gets their best ideas from this Board. O well, at least they read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 I'm pretty sure it was coincidence. My main point was that it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Now what will we say when they pick up the term Braditude? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 about it being easier to get Jucos in SLU than at Wisconsin. It certainly is an eye brow raiser considering the contrary discussions seen here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 I'm just hoping it's true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillikenButch Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 Someone ought to copyright/trademark it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New2SLU Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 >about it being easier to get Jucos in SLU than at Wisconsin. >It certainly is an eye brow raiser considering the contrary >discussions seen here. The problem at SLU is, if you are a transfer you never know what your major is going to end up to be. In the case with TF...initially a business major coming in from 2 years at UAB and then a year at Chipola,JUCO, Tom had to settle for a psychology degree to be accepted by SLU based on the hours accepted by SLU. Grades were not an issue concerning the courses at either school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 UW's always had a very good academic reputation. One of the finest in the Big-10. That said, I still can't see where it would be any harder for a JUCO to get into UW than SLU because of the multiple majors a JUCO could get at UW vs SLU, i.e. phys ed comes to mind. Can't imagine if an impact JUCO player wanted to go to UW they would deny him if he had the proper number of credit hours (unlike you know who in Boone County). But who knows maybe they have higher admission requirements than we do. This is off the top of my head but I would guess it's easier to get into SLU as a freshman than UW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 4, 2004 Share Posted August 4, 2004 I thought it was Earl Austin Jr., who coined "Braditude" last season. If that's true, then the board shouldn't be claiming credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 First of all that is nonsense. If you can get into SLU by meeting the normal standards not the low end range that all schools allow at the last minute to fill out their class you can get into WI. Second, Brad will not ever say in public that the admission policy is a problem at SLU - he has to wait for the right time and the right AD to push for the change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted August 5, 2004 Author Share Posted August 5, 2004 about Wisconsin admission procedures but I do agree that Brad isn't being completely honest in that statement. In fact, I think many times Brad makes statements that aren't lies but at the same time aren't true (e.g. bench-warmer X is going to be a major contributor this season) and people take it as the word. Brad has many reasons for these half true statements and I don't fault him for any of them. The last thing he needs to do is sound like he is publicly whining that SLU admissions are too difficult. Complaints like that should be private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 kshoe said, " I don't know about Winconsin's admission procedures but I do agree that Brad isn't being completely honest in that statement." kshoe, what statement isn't Brad being completely honest about? I'm confused! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyjibo Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 Earl is a very funny and witty guy so I would not be surprised if he coined that (as well as many other things). I was not consciously channeling Earl when I used it here though--it is just someone wrote "Brad attitude" and "Braditude" seemed like an obvious expression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted August 5, 2004 Author Share Posted August 5, 2004 that its harder to get a juco into Wisconsin then it is SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 I'm sure Brad Soderberg knows better than we do. Second of all, think about it: very rarely does ANY Big Ten school have a juco transfer because of the conference's requirements (I believe they still have to sit out a year). Thus, it's not an academic thing, but it's still harder to recruit a juco to Wisconsin than SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobile-iken Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 I don't know KSHOE...According to the rankings Winsconsin is a superior school to SLU academically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyjibo Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 More importantly Wisconsin would need to avoid being swamped by transfers from the other 10 public schools in the Wisconsin system. A degree from Madison is a very good value for the money and would need to avoid students from River Falls, Oshkosh, etc. transfering to get a better looking degree. People need to transfer but all universities use academic transfer rules to crontrol the flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 I don't think Brad makes half true statements. I'm sure he believes it to be harder at Wisconsin than at SLU. Also as for the example about a bench warmer being a major contributor ... I guess that depends on your idea about a major contributor. Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 I don't recall Brad making this particular statement but in my mind, any guy in the regular rotation is a major contributor. So Ian and Varner, for example, were major contributors last year but JJ and Husak were not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted August 5, 2004 Author Share Posted August 5, 2004 considers Husak a major contributor last year. That would have been quite an accomplishment! All I meant to say about the half-truth comment was Brad, like most coaches, speaks in what I call "coach-talk" which should rarely be construed as facts. The best example I can give of this was Lou Holtz who made it sound like every team they were playing was the top team in the country. "Coach-talk" comes in many forms, one of them is not ripping the university he works for. For example, Brad has said at Billiken Club meetings he has never been denied airfare to go recruit a player. However, Brad, unlike a Bill Self for example, will likely be flying to his choice destination on Southwest. Self will be taking a private plane. Clearly that is not the same thing. No offense meant to Brad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 I thought it was said once that Brad had access to SLU's Private plane when it was needed. I am unsure of the context, but does anyone else remember this statement? Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleBilliken Posted August 5, 2004 Share Posted August 5, 2004 I remember LoRo saying that at one point, but I can't remember if Brad mentioned it. I would have to assume that Brad has AT LEAST the same priveleges as Romar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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