slu72 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 In the UNC-UNLV post below someone pointed out that our athelticism is way below that of those two schools. Don't doubt it for a minute. In fact, I'd suggest that from a purely athletic point of view we're probably not going to play many teams where we are the more athletic team. That said, we've probably got more athleticism going for us than we have in quite a few years, but it doesn't seem to matter much when you're playing smart basketball. Of the games I've seen; UW, Nova, and BC, I'd say UW and Nova clearly had better athletes. Didn't matter we still won. As for BC, I'd say, especially with our guards, we were the more athletic team. I'm expecting OK to have a whole bunch of athletes tonight, but as we've shown our smart play can beat athleticism and beat them by a bunch, witness UW and to a lesser extent Nova. Point being, having a great group of athletes on the floor can be beat by a team playing solid basketball on both ends of the court. And that's what I'm expecting tonight. Go Bills!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperdeckKid Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Athleticism wins far fewer games then basketball IQ. A good Team will beat a bunch of great athletes most of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I think KC summed it up well after the BC game. "This offense gets us open looks, we just have to knock them down." Athletic or not, we'll get shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Saying athleticism doesn't matter is probably taking the point too far. Several components go into a winning team. Athleticism is one. Shooting is another. Disciplined team play is another. Decrease one component and you must increase the others to reach the same result. We only excel in one category right now--discipline team play--but I think our athleticism is underrated. Wayns was about to defeat us on his own until Jett entered the game. Jett, McCall, Mitchell, and Evans are all athletic players but only Jett combines size with his athleticism. We're able to put enough athleticism out on the floor to hang with big, quick teams. It's crucial to our ability to stay in these games long enough for our disciplined play to take over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperdeckKid Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Saying athleticism doesn't matter is probably taking the point too far. Several components go into a winning team. Athleticism is one. Shooting is another. Disciplined team play is another. Decrease one component and you must increase the others to reach the same result. We only excel in one category right now--discipline team play--but I think our athleticism is underrated. Wayns was about to defeat us on his own until Jett entered the game. Jett, McCall, Mitchell, and Evans are all athletic players but only Jett combines size with his athleticism. We're able to put enough athleticism out on the floor to hang with big, quick teams. It's crucial to our ability to stay in these games long enough for our disciplined play to take over. I agree with that. Remekun is also a good athlete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 I agree with that. Remekun is also a good athlete. In summary, all the black dudes are athletic, white guys not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For-DaLove Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 In summary, all the black dudes are athletic, white guys not so much.Lol. One thing about Majerus lead teams when he's been successful is he's found a good mix of athletes and skill players. I think it's important to have a combination of both, and it seems like we do. Our "athletes" have also played very smart, mistake free ball so far this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.hayes Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Lol. One thing about Majerus lead teams when he's been successful is he's found a good mix of athletes and skill players. I think it's important to have a combination of both, and it seems like we do. Our "athletes" have also played very smart, mistake free ball so far this season. Healthy BC has been very athletic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 If athleticism is what basketball is all about then the SEC teams would be NCAA champs most of the time. Not the case. As to athleticism, KM is right up there with the best. Believe our other guys are also more athletic than some apparently are suggesting. As for disciplined team play, yes we have it. Athleticism, yes we are holding our own against the BCS schools. As for shooting, do some not realize that our team is shooting 48% from the field (opponents only 38%) and 43% from the 3 (opponents only 29%). Just curious. What is considered good shooting? I'd suggest if we continue to make every other shot and to knock down 43% from the 3 point line, we will win most all of our games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 We could certainly afford to be more athletic. CE and RL are both below average athletes. The last two years we were unathletic and small however our guys have beefed up now which helps. And you wouldn't trade our skill and iq for more athleticism. With more wons we can recruit better athletes but try and continue with smart basketball players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastsidejoe Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 We could certainly afford to be more athletic. CE and RL are both below average athletes. The last two years we were unathletic and small however our guys have beefed up now which helps. And you wouldn't trade our skill and iq for more athleticism. With more wons we can recruit better athletes but try and continue with smart basketball players you mean more wins?? i will take the iq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKHANDtheRICAN Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 you mean more wins?? i will take the iqEveryone knows he meant wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Was the Nova guard Waynns or whatever his name was more athletic than Jett? What is athleticism? Speed, jumping ability? Does strength count? The fact that we play up in the body of our opponents guards and they can't/don't just beat us off the dribble tells me our guards are pretty strong and have quick feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Many, but not all of you are making it sound like athleticism and basketball IQ are mutually exclusive. You can be a very athletic team and still play smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 KC is probably the most underrated athlete on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 KC is probably the most underrated athlete on the team. ++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 We could certainly afford to be more athletic. CE and RL are both below average athletes. The last two years we were unathletic and small however our guys have beefed up now which helps. And you wouldn't trade our skill and iq for more athleticism. With more wons we can recruit better athletes but try and continue with smart basketball players Wrong. If you compare Loe to other 6-11 players, he is quite athletic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastsidejoe Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 KC is probably the most underrated athlete on the team. What do you think Backhand, you are the expert on KC. just think, this is your last year to throw him under the bus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 Wrong. If you compare Loe to other 6-11 players, he is quite athletic.Disagree. But he's certainly more skilled than many. You can be very athletic and have a good basketball iq and thats when you get the best teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKHANDtheRICAN Posted November 27, 2011 Share Posted November 27, 2011 What do you think Backhand, you are the expert on KC. just think, this is your last year to throw him under the busMost of your posts are pointless including this one, clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslasttermdropout Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Bills will need to beat these guys up real good tonight to continue the roll. I fully believe them capable. Evans gets 2 dunks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Bills will need to beat these guys up real good tonight to continue the roll. I fully believe them capable. Evans gets 2 dunks.Except there was one lone Billikens dunk by Conklin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikan Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 We could certainly afford to be more athletic. CE and RL are both below average athletes. The last two years we were unathletic and small however our guys have beefed up now which helps. And you wouldn't trade our skill and iq for more athleticism. With more wons we can recruit better athletes but try and continue with smart basketball players I am amazed at how little your really know about basketball. Obviously, you have never played or coached and you just spout out your opinions like you are the oracle of basketball. This team just won 6 games by double digits and dominated teams with your so called superior athletes. Washington has three or four NBA first round draft choices and yet we absolutely destroyed them. Villanova is big and strong and tough and we won big. Oklahoma looked like world beaters in their early games but we beat them by 20 points. The fact is that good tough smart players who can defend and shoot will always be able to compete at a high level. look at Larry Bird and Kevin McHale--they would never meet your definition of great athletes yet they were great players who knew how to compete and win. Even Magic Johnson was not a high flying athlete but he was a brilliant player who saw things that no one else saw. Even last year's NBA champs had an MVP who is not a great athlete but he is a smart player who can shoot who competes hard. Ellis and Low are getting better every day. Conklin is playing fantastic. KM, KC and JJ have proven they can compete with your so called athletes. This is maybe the best set of game performances by a Billiken team in 40 years when you consider the competition and the level of dominance. I want these kind of players not your pie in the sky new recruiting focus for athletes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 The Bills are more athletic than many give them credit for. Ask the Wash, OU, Nova, and BC guards if they think our guards are athletic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I am amazed at how little your really know about basketball. Obviously, you have never played or coached and you just spout out your opinions like you are the oracle of basketball. This team just won 6 games by double digits and dominated teams with your so called superior athletes. Washington has three or four NBA first round draft choices and yet we absolutely destroyed them. Villanova is big and strong and tough and we won big. Oklahoma looked like world beaters in their early games but we beat them by 20 points. The fact is that good tough smart players who can defend and shoot will always be able to compete at a high level. look at Larry Bird and Kevin McHale--they would never meet your definition of great athletes yet they were great players who knew how to compete and win. Even Magic Johnson was not a high flying athlete but he was a brilliant player who saw things that no one else saw. Even last year's NBA champs had an MVP who is not a great athlete but he is a smart player who can shoot who competes hard. Ellis and Low are getting better every day. Conklin is playing fantastic. KM, KC and JJ have proven they can compete with your so called athletes. This is maybe the best set of game performances by a Billiken team in 40 years when you consider the competition and the level of dominance. I want these kind of players not your pie in the sky new recruiting focus for athletes. Give him a break Billikan. High school is tough, and he is still trying to figure out what Cody Ellis brings to this team. Besides excellent shooting and 10 ppg... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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