brianstl Posted May 28 Author Share Posted May 28 37 minutes ago, NextYearBill said: https://nil.store/search?q=avila&options[prefix]=last now we cooking with a lil oil I like this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, brianstl said: I like this one Given twenty minutes my lovely wife could come up with a better graphic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laker119 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 28 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: Given twenty minutes my lovely wife could come up with a better graphic. I’m gonna take the positive side on this. Of all the NIL clothing they put out, you’re right - surely some won’t be hits. But man it’s cool to see some SLU clothing with players represented on it. SLUMedBilliken15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 31 minutes ago, laker119 said: I’m gonna take the positive side on this. Of all the NIL clothing they put out, you’re right - surely some won’t be hits. But man it’s cool to see some SLU clothing with players represented on it. Correct. I think we all need to remember that not every piece of Billiken gear is for us. I ain’t wearing a hoodie with his face on it, as happy as I am he’s a Billiken. As far as new designs for guys like Jimerson, Hughes, Thames etc, I think patience. These things take time, they only announced this partnership a week or so ago. I’m shocked they even have anything up before September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 I'm confused at what people even expected. I think the Avila gear is cool. I may not wear it but I'd purchase it to support the player. billikenfan05, brianstl and SLUMedBilliken15 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy II Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 14 minutes ago, slufan13 said: I'm confused at what people even expected. I think the Avila gear is cool. I may not wear it but I'd purchase it to support the player. -if for player support would the player get more of the amount paid if you went through the Billiken Exchange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 32 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Correct. I think we all need to remember that not every piece of Billiken gear is for us. I ain’t wearing a hoodie with his face on it, as happy as I am he’s a Billiken. As far as new designs for guys like Jimerson, Hughes, Thames etc, I think patience. These things take time, they only announced this partnership a week or so ago. I’m shocked they even have anything up before September. I used to take a yellow school bus to ScottTrade. We’re light years into the future now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 7 minutes ago, Cowboy II said: -if for player support would the player get more of the amount paid if you went through the Billiken Exchange? Probably but there's also the marketing side of buying gear (and wearing it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 8 hours ago, laker119 said: I’m gonna take the positive side on this. Of all the NIL clothing they put out, you’re right - surely some won’t be hits. But man it’s cool to see some SLU clothing with players represented on it. Sorry but that graphic and shirt are lame. D+ Effort. If I can make better using a laser cutter to make some screens, it's kind of pathetic....... thatskablamo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 8 hours ago, Billiken Rich said: Sorry but that graphic and shirt are lame. D+ Effort. If I can make better using a laser cutter to make some screens, it's kind of pathetic....... Then do it? NextYearBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 Why are we crapping on the stuff that is meant to put a little money in the pockets of Billiken athletes? We aren't going to get stuff limited quantity stuff like this put together by Nike's design teams. That stuff would have to sell at such a high price to cover production costs, that no one would buy it and the players wouldn't get crap. HoosierPal, billikenfan05, JMM28 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 A lot of these are items Robbie was already offering. Now it's just through a more formal site. If Robbie is on board, I am definitely on board. brianstl, Billikenbooster, billiken_roy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 10 hours ago, Billiken Rich said: Sorry but that graphic and shirt are lame. D+ Effort. If I can make better using a laser cutter to make some screens, it's kind of pathetic....... Bad post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 5 minutes ago, JMM28 said: Bad post Bad shirt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 2 hours ago, brianstl said: Why are we crapping on the stuff that is meant to put a little money in the pockets of Billiken athletes? We aren't going to get stuff limited quantity stuff like this put together by Nike's design teams. That stuff would have to sell at such a high price to cover production costs, that no one would buy it and the players wouldn't get crap. I'd rather just give the kid money. Crap is crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny karate Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 What does Kareem adul jabber think about all this? Has he ever given his opinion on the cream nickname? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 I love the idea of this store, but I would be shocked if any of our players made any more than a few hundred dollars off of this stuff. I would get guess that if a shirt costs $40, the player is getting $5 - $10 per sale. Also, none of this is being held in stock. The way it works nowadays, the company makes a shirt only after someone orders it. Let's say one of our player sells 60 shirts (which seems like a lot) and makes $7 per shirt. Congratulations kid, you just earned $420 before taxes. Given the tax bracket some of them will be in given their NIL payments, that means they will probably clear about $250. Doesn't seem all that worth it for someone making six figures on an NIL deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 5 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: I love the idea of this store, but I would be shocked if any of our players made any more than a few hundred dollars off of this stuff. I would get guess that if a shirt costs $40, the player is getting $5 - $10 per sale. Also, none of this is being held in stock. The way it works nowadays, the company makes a shirt only after someone orders it. Let's say one of our player sells 60 shirts (which seems like a lot) and makes $7 per shirt. Congratulations kid, you just earned $420 before taxes. Given the tax bracket some of them will be in given their NIL payments, that means they will probably clear about $250. Doesn't seem all that worth it for someone making six figures on an NIL deal. A quick google led me to the FSU NIL Store and they give the payouts at $8-15 cgeldmacher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 2 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: A quick google led me to the FSU NIL Store and they give the payouts at $8-15 The way NIL should have happened. NextYearBill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 13 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: I love the idea of this store, but I would be shocked if any of our players made any more than a few hundred dollars off of this stuff. I would get guess that if a shirt costs $40, the player is getting $5 - $10 per sale. Also, none of this is being held in stock. The way it works nowadays, the company makes a shirt only after someone orders it. Let's say one of our player sells 60 shirts (which seems like a lot) and makes $7 per shirt. Congratulations kid, you just earned $420 before taxes. Given the tax bracket some of them will be in given their NIL payments, that means they will probably clear about $250. Doesn't seem all that worth it for someone making six figures on an NIL deal. I do not understand any of the push back here on this whole deal. This is what NIL was supposed to be. The schools are clearly subsidizing the hosting and design fees for their athletes with NIL Store. If the designs aren't your bag, they aren't your bag. Jersey's aren't your thing? Fine, but to expect customizable Nike jerseys from this store, I'm not sure you were paying attention. Is the design on Robbie's face outline shirt way too small? Sure, valid complaint. But it's a weird to criticize the quality without actually touching the merchandise. Liberally speaking, outside of maybe 10-15 Billikens on rosters, this is going to amount to Jordair Jett's parents buying and customizing a bunch of shirts with their last name on them. brianstl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 I guess they are still working on the relaunch of BVF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 3 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: A quick google led me to the FSU NIL Store and they give the payouts at $8-15 The other small print says that this particular site was made just for FSU as a way of funneling more of the money per item to FSU athletes ("instead of only earning a small percentage"). I am guessing that the SLU NIL store is through a company doing this all over the country for different universities. So, I think my $7 per shirt is still a good guesstimate. My point is that our guys should be able to make more money for a one hour appearance at a Pasta House or car dealership than all the money they make on this site for the entire year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 4 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: I do not understand any of the push back here on this whole deal. This is what NIL was supposed to be. The schools are clearly subsidizing the hosting and design fees for their athletes with NIL Store. If the designs aren't your bag, they aren't your bag. Jersey's aren't your thing? Fine, but to expect customizable Nike jerseys from this store, I'm not sure you were paying attention. Is the design on Robbie's face outline shirt way too small? Sure, valid complaint. But it's a weird to criticize the quality without actually touching the merchandise. There is no pushback (edit: from me). I'm totally fine with it. I just think that folks on this site think this is some sort of a game changer for our guys, and the reality is that its really not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted May 29 Author Share Posted May 29 12 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: The other small print says that this particular site was made just for FSU as a way of funneling more of the money per item to FSU athletes ("instead of only earning a small percentage"). I am guessing that the SLU NIL store is through a company doing this all over the country for different universities. So, I think my $7 per shirt is still a good guesstimate. My point is that our guys should be able to make more money for a one hour appearance at a Pasta House or car dealership than all the money they make on this site for the entire year. FSU’s NIL store is run by the same company that operates SLU’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 16 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said: There is no pushback (edit: from me). I'm totally fine with it. I just think that folks on this site think this is some sort of a game changer for our guys, and the reality is that its really not. We're keeping up with the Joneses. It's a game changer because it's an opportunity to run with that we haven't had ever for our athletes. If you don't work at using this valuable partnership by creating designs people identify with, by making a name for yourself in the community and on social media then you it's not going to change the game for you. It'll just be a place for your family and friends to buy shirts to support you when they come watch you play. I have a sneaking suspicion that SLU Women's Soccer are going to be way bigger beneficiaries of this than anyone thinks. So many soccer girls running around Hermann stadium last season wearing player t-shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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