goonaha Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, JMM28 said: There's 60,000 SLU alums in St. Louis. How many Mizzou alums? I don't know. I doubt you know how many SLU alums there are either but thanks for the number out of nowhere. My intuition tells me that the state university that has a 30,000+ enrollment has a decent size alumni base in the state's biggest metro area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTGR Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 28 minutes ago, JMM28 said: There's 60,000 SLU alums in St. Louis. How many Mizzou alums? Still living? I see 10x more Mizzou gear worn around town than SLU gear. I know literally dozens if not hundreds of people who went to Mizzou, but only a handful that went to SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 SLU alumni in St. Louis: 52,000 Missouri living alumni in St. Louis: 63,123 https://www.slu.edu/Documents/SLU_Profile.pdf http://missouri.edu/about/mufacts/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTGR Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, juniorbill76 said: SLU alumni in St. Louis: 52,000 Missouri living alumni in St. Louis: 63,123 https://www.slu.edu/Documents/SLU_Profile.pdf http://missouri.edu/about/mufacts/ That only makes sense, although that is an impressive number for a private Jesuit Catholic school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 The discrepancy in gear and rooting interest is likely due in part to the larger number of St. Louis area families who are sending or have sent students to MU vs. SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTGR Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 minute ago, juniorbill76 said: The discrepancy in gear and rooting interest is likely due in part to the larger number of St. Louis area families who are sending or have sent students to MU vs. SLU. I'm not putting down SLU here, but it is a private University, so it's obviously more exclusive both academically and economically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 22 minutes ago, juniorbill76 said: The discrepancy in gear and rooting interest is likely due in part to the larger number of St. Louis area families who are sending or have sent students to MU vs. SLU. I would think the lack of gear has more to do with no football team at SLU (the biggest reason) and chains buying in bulk for stores across the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, goonaha said: I don't know. I doubt you know how many SLU alums there are either but thanks for the number out of nowhere. My intuition tells me that the state university that has a 30,000+ enrollment has a decent size alumni base in the state's biggest metro area. 42 minutes ago, juniorbill76 said: SLU alumni in St. Louis: 52,000 Missouri living alumni in St. Louis: 63,123 https://www.slu.edu/Documents/SLU_Profile.pdf http://missouri.edu/about/mufacts/ point JMM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 yeah but how many does Mizzou actually want to claim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 14 hours ago, MUTGR said: Does this mean Ford ran of the local kid who was a good student? Congrats. I thought you guys were above this. Good grief what a worthless BS post. I thought you were being picked on, I see now that I was wrong and I apologize to the SLU fans that I thought were not being fair when they called you out. No one on this board ever said SLU was above that, it happened under coach Majerus. Also there have been many posts wanting coach Ford to do this with the scholarships. Why can't you just enjoy the resurgence of the MU basketball program? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Actually people were bashing Cuonzo for losing higher GPA kids to avoid APR penalties, so MUTGR just see the hypocrisy of the same posters not lashing out about the Gillman situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 15 hours ago, MUTGR said: Does this mean Ford ran of the local kid who was a good student? Congrats. I thought you guys were above this. Do you try to be obnoxious or does it just come naturally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Just now, STL Hoops Insider said: Actually people were bashing Cuonzo for losing higher GPA kids to avoid APR penalties, so MUTGR just see the hypocrisy of the same posters not lashing out about the Gillman situation. Hold up. The Gillman situation??? Gillman is a few credits away from graduating on his own and scored all of 10 points last year. He very clearly saw that there was no value in him coming back next year and chose to leave. I doubt Ford made any effort to keep him, but I also doubt he was shoved out the door since him not coming back doesn't really improve the scholarship situation (we still need his scholly for 2018). Comparing that situation to the one in Columbia where APR issues make it the case that Mizzou can only afford to cut the good students, while keeping the crappy students, if there is a need for scholarships because players like Tilmon and Knox come on board is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zink Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, STL Hoops Insider said: Actually people were bashing Cuonzo for losing higher GPA kids to avoid APR penalties, so MUTGR just see the hypocrisy of the same posters not lashing out about the Gillman situation. Only it's pretty obvious Gillman was not let go due to his GPA. Unlike with another program, no "insiders" or reporters had ever suggested that Ford was motivated by the same factor. Austin wasn't getting playing time or contributing, and chose to leave as a result. Just because he was also by most accounts a good student does not mean that was why he was let go! Is this really difficult to understand? Gillman was probably not going to be a Billiken next year regardless of his academic achievement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, STL Hoops Insider said: Actually people were bashing Cuonzo for losing higher GPA kids to avoid APR penalties, so MUTGR just see the hypocrisy of the same posters not lashing out about the Gillman situation. Cuonzo "losing" them...haha. That's rich. As subsequent posters have highlighted, the situations are hardly comparable. But hey, keep up the mizzou cheerleading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 If anyone can handle basketball and grades, it's Gillman. We know what's going on and it truly is okay. Scholarships should always be performance based. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, STL Hoops Insider said: If anyone can handle basketball and grades, it's Gillman. We know what's going on and it truly is okay. Scholarships should always be performance based. Gilman decided on his own to quit basketball. He wasn't told at any point his scholarship wasn't going to be renewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 23 minutes ago, STL Hoops Insider said: If anyone can handle basketball and grades, it's Gillman. We know what's going on and it truly is okay. Scholarships should always be performance based. And the source of your information is? If you say Maurice Scott, well, don't even bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 20 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: And the source of your information is? If you say Maurice Scott, well, don't even bother. Bwahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 2 hours ago, STL Hoops Insider said: Actually people were bashing Cuonzo for losing higher GPA kids to avoid APR penalties, so MUTGR just see the hypocrisy of the same posters not lashing out about the Gillman situation. That is weak insider MUTGR made a worthless BS post to start trouble not to have a discussion. I like reading your opinion because it comes from a coach with a different perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I think Gillmann's decision to quit the team fitted his needs best. Being active in a basketball team takes a lot of time in practice and travelling to games. He is close to graduation and has nothing to gain by investing all that time for the purpose of sitting on a bench wherever they go play. It makes more sense for him to concentrate on his academics. He made the right decision, he chose what was best for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 1 hour ago, STL Hoops Insider said: If anyone can handle basketball and grades, it's Gillman. We know what's going on and it truly is okay. Scholarships should always be performance based. It makes no sense that Ford would have encouraged Gillmann to quit the team. SLU needs Gillmann's scholarship for 2018 so him leaving doesn't really benefit them at all. Now, maybe SLU gets a grad transfer or something to fill that spot for 1 year, but there is no rumors about getting such a player at all so I'm very inclined to think Gillmann left on his own accord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 If Gillmann can graduate this summer, it makes far more sense to do it and move on with his post college life. Why spend all that time and work on basketball when you are not going to see the court. Smart move by Gillmann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUTGR Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 11 hours ago, CBFan said: Good grief what a worthless BS post. I thought you were being picked on, I see now that I was wrong and I apologize to the SLU fans that I thought were not being fair when they called you out. No one on this board ever said SLU was above that, it happened under coach Majerus. Also there have been many posts wanting coach Ford to do this with the scholarships. Why can't you just enjoy the resurgence of the MU basketball program? I am. You seem easily rattled. Don't take things personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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