brianstl Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Rick Majerus is correct when he says the Atlantic 10 is a bad geographic fit for St. Louis University. The same could be said for Dayton. link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 linkWho knows... maybe RM's got enough weight to start schools on the road to a whole new conference. If the cost of playing in the A-10 is putting a hurt on private schools like UD, X, and SLU then maybe it's time for their admin's to get together to start something new.A conference of SLU, Dayton, X, Butler, Creighton, Loyola-Chi, Det Mercy, Drake, Valpo, and Evansville wouldn't be bad. All this talk makes me wonder if we weren't too hasty in our decision to leave CUSA 5 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Who knows... maybe RM's got enough weight to start schools on the road to a whole new conference. If the cost of playing in the A-10 is putting a hurt on private schools like UD, X, and SLU then maybe it's time for their admin's to get together to start something new.A conference of SLU, Dayton, X, Butler, Creighton, Loyola-Chi, Det Mercy, Drake, Valpo, and Evansville wouldn't be bad. All this talk makes me wonder if we weren't too hasty in our decision to leave CUSA 5 years ago.We didn't decide to leaves CUSA, we were shown the door along with UNCC because we were nonfootball schools. If we can get UD and X allied with us in a search for a new conference, then maybe it could be done. If we're on our own, the only viable move would be the MVC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSLU68 Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 We didn't decide to leaves CUSA, we were shown the door along with UNCC because we were nonfootball schools. If we can get UD and X allied with us in a search for a new conference, then maybe it could be done. If we're on our own, the only viable move would be the MVC. wow either way the excitement of adding Evansville almost overwhelms us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 Who knows... maybe RM's got enough weight to start schools on the road to a whole new conference. If the cost of playing in the A-10 is putting a hurt on private schools like UD, X, and SLU then maybe it's time for their admin's to get together to start something new.A conference of SLU, Dayton, X, Butler, Creighton, Loyola-Chi, Det Mercy, Drake, Valpo, and Evansville wouldn't be bad. All this talk makes me wonder if we weren't too hasty in our decision to leave CUSA 5 years ago. I would really be up for this. Not the Papal Conference but a better conference, IMO, than the current A10. Loyola-Chicago is not much (rather have DePaul) but playing in Chicago would be great, Just like playing in NY now - even though it's with Fordham. Chicago is closer so I'd take Loyola over Fordham. Detroit Mercy is not great but neither is St. Bonaventure, Rhode Island or LaSalle. St. Joe had those nice years but, since then, is really not worth the travel. Temple will probably recover and make strides to get back to the heights experienced under Chaney, but so far, they have not. Temple, though, is going to base its next conference on football so I don't care much about Temple. So far, the best basketball schools and our most similar/rival schools from the A10 are UD and X. If we can be in a conference with them, then I don't care who the other schools are. If the other schools include bottom-tier Midwest Jesuit/Catholic/private schools rather than East Coast ones, then great. Duquesne (Pittsburgh) is not really that far either and could be considered in the next conference. In short, if schools make a true commitment and are willing to put it in the next conference's written agreements, then some of the "bottom tier" schools (Detroit) could really benefit from the likes of SLU, X and UD and thereby turn their programs around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKHANDtheRICAN Posted January 24, 2010 Share Posted January 24, 2010 link Theres also an article in this weekends USA Today. I saw the Saint Louis Basketball headline, got excited to read, and then realized its more of this Majerus conference crap. For a few seconds I thought USA Today might have been doing an article on our basketball team! Go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfootes Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Who knows... maybe RM's got enough weight to start schools on the road to a whole new conference. If the cost of playing in the A-10 is putting a hurt on private schools like UD, X, and SLU then maybe it's time for their admin's to get together to start something new.A conference of SLU, Dayton, X, Butler, Creighton, Loyola-Chi, Det Mercy, Drake, Valpo, and Evansville wouldn't be bad. All this talk makes me wonder if we weren't too hasty in our decision to leave CUSA 5 years ago. Wow, the MCC revisited (almost). Why not Oklahoma City? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLfan Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Assuming the Big East doesn't break up I would be more than happy with the following eight team conference. Bradley Butler Creighton Dayton Detroit Drake Saint Louis Xavier Basketball arena's listed by Capacity Creighton - 17,560 Dayton - 13,435 Bradley - 11,433 Saint Louis - 10,600 Xavier - 10,250 Butler - 10,000 Detroit - 8,295 Drake - 7,002 Good facilities and no gyms. Enrollment Saint Louis - 10,633 Dayton - 10,569 Creighton - 7,385 Xavier - 6,646 Bradley - 6,105 Detroit - 6,000 Drake - 5,221 Butler - 4,200 Affiliation Bradley - Private/Non-sectarian Butler - Private/Non-sectarian Creighton - Private/Catholic(Jesuit) Dayton - Private/Catholic Detroit - Private/Catholic(Jesuit) Drake - Private/Non-sectarian Saint Louis - Private/Catholic(Jesuit) Xavier - Private/Catholic(Jesuit) Ranked by Current RPI 13 - Xavier 24 - Butler 37 - Dayton 83 - Bradley 113 - Saint Louis 130 - Creighton 164 - Detroit 186 - Drake No team below 200 in RPI. This conference would be a two or three bid league most years and we would only have to split that revenue 8 ways. Listed by NCAA tournament appearances Xavier - 20 Creighton - 16 Dayton - 14 Bradley - 8 Butler - 9 Saint Louis - 6 Detroit - 5 Drake - 4 Last year each team appeared in an NCAA tournament 2009 - Butler 2009 - Dayton 2009 - Xavier 2008 - Drake 2007 - Creighton 2006 - Bradley 2000 - Saint Louis 1999 - Detroit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLfan Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 To compare here is the current Atlantic 10. Charlotte Dayton Duquesne Fordham George Washington La Salle UMass Rhode Island Richmond Saint Joseph's Saint Louis St. Bonaventure Temple Xavier Basketball arena's listed by Capacity Dayton - 13,435 Saint Louis - 10,600 Xavier - 10,250 Temple - 10,206 UMass - 9,493 Charlotte - 9,105 Richmond - 9,071 Rhode Island - 7,657 St. Bonaventure - 5,780 Duquesne - 5,358 George Washington - 5,000 Saint Joseph's - 4,200 La Salle - 4,000 Fordham - 3,470 Enrollment Temple - 31,600 UMass - 25,873 George Washington - 22,710 Charlotte - 22,388 Rhode Island - 15,650 Fordham - 12,932 Saint Louis - 10,633 Dayton - 10,569 Duquesne - 9,617 Saint Joseph's - 7,542 Xavier - 6,646 La Salle - 6,012 Richmond - 2,962 St. Bonaventure - 2,700 Affiliation Charlotte - Public Dayton - Public Duquesne - Private/Catholic Fordham - Private/Catholic George Washington - Private/Non-sectarian La Salle - Private/Catholic UMass - Public Rhode Island Richmond - Private/Non-sectarian Saint Joseph's - Private/Catholic Saint Louis - Private/Catholic St. Bonaventure - Private/Catholic Temple - Public Xavier - Private/Catholic Ranked by Current RPI 11 - Temple 13 - Xavier 17 - Rhode Island 37 - Dayton 40 - Richmond 49 - Charlotte 109 - Duquesne 113 - Saint Louis 119 - La Salle 132 - George Washington 143 - Saint Joseph's 153 - St. Bonaventure 208 - UMass 293 - Fordham A very good year for the A10. Only two teams below 200 and none below 300. Listed by NCAA tournament appearances Temple - 27 Xavier - 20 Saint Joseph's - 20 Dayton - 14 Charlotte - 11 La Salle - 11 George Washington - 10 Rhode Island - 8 Richmond - 7 UMass - 7 Saint Louis - 6 Duquesne - 5 St. Bonaventure - 5 Fordham - 4 Last year each team appeared in an NCAA tournament 2009 - Dayton 2009 - Temple 2009 - Xavier 2008 - Saint Joseph's 2007 - George Washington 2005 - Charlotte 2004 - Richmond 2000 - Saint Louis 2000 - St. Bonaventure 1999 - Rhode Island 1998 - UMass 1992 - Fordham 1992 - La Salle 1977 - Duquesne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.hayes Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 To compare here is the current Atlantic 10. Charlotte Dayton Duquesne Fordham George Washington La Salle UMass Rhode Island Richmond Saint Joseph's Saint Louis St. Bonaventure Temple Xavier Basketball arena's listed by Capacity Dayton - 13,435 Saint Louis - 10,600 Xavier - 10,250 Temple - 10,206 UMass - 9,493 Charlotte - 9,105 Richmond - 9,071 Rhode Island - 7,657 St. Bonaventure - 5,780 Duquesne - 5,358 George Washington - 5,000 Saint Joseph's - 4,200 La Salle - 4,000 Fordham - 3,470 Enrollment Temple - 31,600 UMass - 25,873 George Washington - 22,710 Charlotte - 22,388 Rhode Island - 15,650 Fordham - 12,932 Saint Louis - 10,633 Dayton - 10,569 Duquesne - 9,617 Saint Joseph's - 7,542 Xavier - 6,646 La Salle - 6,012 Richmond - 2,962 St. Bonaventure - 2,700 Affiliation Charlotte - Public Dayton - Public Duquesne - Private/Catholic Fordham - Private/Catholic George Washington - Private/Non-sectarian La Salle - Private/Catholic UMass - Public Rhode Island Richmond - Private/Non-sectarian Saint Joseph's - Private/Catholic Saint Louis - Private/Catholic St. Bonaventure - Private/Catholic Temple - Public Xavier - Private/Catholic Ranked by Current RPI 11 - Temple 13 - Xavier 17 - Rhode Island 37 - Dayton 40 - Richmond 49 - Charlotte 109 - Duquesne 113 - Saint Louis 119 - La Salle 132 - George Washington 143 - Saint Joseph's 153 - St. Bonaventure 208 - UMass 293 - Fordham A very good year for the A10. Only two teams below 200 and none below 300. Listed by NCAA tournament appearances Temple - 27 Xavier - 20 Saint Joseph's - 20 Dayton - 14 Charlotte - 11 La Salle - 11 George Washington - 10 Rhode Island - 8 Richmond - 7 UMass - 7 Saint Louis - 6 Duquesne - 5 St. Bonaventure - 5 Fordham - 4 Last year each team appeared in an NCAA tournament 2009 - Dayton 2009 - Temple 2009 - Xavier 2008 - Saint Joseph's 2007 - George Washington 2005 - Charlotte 2004 - Richmond 2000 - Saint Louis 2000 - St. Bonaventure 1999 - Rhode Island 1998 - UMass 1992 - Fordham 1992 - La Salle 1977 - Duquesne Dayton is a private, Catholic university as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Assuming the Big East doesn't break up I would be more than happy with the following eight team conference. Bradley Butler Creighton Dayton Detroit Drake Saint Louis Xavier I like this. I'd want Loyola in there (preferably DePaul, as clock tower mentioned, but that would be tough to pull off). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I think this board is trying to set a record for most threads on the front page that deal with the A-10/MVC vs. dream conference discussion. If people insist on bringing up the "dream conference" it seems to me discussion of how it would actually come to be is more valuable than the versions that trade school affiliations like baseball cards. So along those lines...is the Big 10 taking 1, 3 or 5 teams into their new conference? And how do the dominoes fall after that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I think this board is trying to set a record for most threads on the front page that deal with the A-10/MVC vs. dream conference discussion. If people insist on bringing up the "dream conference" it seems to me discussion of how it would actually come to be is more valuable than the versions that trade school affiliations like baseball cards. So along those lines...is the Big 10 taking 1, 3 or 5 teams into their new conference? And how do the dominoes fall after that? i agree. the main thing the fans need to realize is that IF any future conference is to come about, the A-10 is the best launching pad. other than that to conceptualize a result that is so dependent on a lot of other dominos falling first is pretty fruitless imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF1 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I would really be up for this. Not the Papal Conference but a better conference, IMO, than the current A10. Loyola-Chicago is not much (rather have DePaul) but playing in Chicago would be great, Just like playing in NY now - even though it's with Fordham. Chicago is closer so I'd take Loyola over Fordham. Detroit Mercy is not great but neither is St. Bonaventure, Rhode Island or LaSalle. St. Joe had those nice years but, since then, is really not worth the travel. Temple will probably recover and make strides to get back to the heights experienced under Chaney, but so far, they have not. Temple, though, is going to base its next conference on football so I don't care much about Temple. So far, the best basketball schools and our most similar/rival schools from the A10 are UD and X. If we can be in a conference with them, then I don't care who the other schools are. If the other schools include bottom-tier Midwest Jesuit/Catholic/private schools rather than East Coast ones, then great. Duquesne (Pittsburgh) is not really that far either and could be considered in the next conference. In short, if schools make a true commitment and are willing to put it in the next conference's written agreements, then some of the "bottom tier" schools (Detroit) could really benefit from the likes of SLU, X and UD and thereby turn their programs around. When exactly did SLU get so good in basketball that some of its fans can get soo high and mighty? Putting down Temple, Rhode Island, and St. Joe's? All of these schools have elite-8 appearances in the last 20 years and they have won NCAA games in several different seasons. If you ask me, it is SLU that does not belong with them. I am sick of reading comments from your coach and many of your fans. If you don't like the A-10, leave as soon as possible. It is not as if you have done much for the conference or would be missed. GO NOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyRican Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 RF, thanks for coming and check you later. If you don't like reading about our coach and our fans then don't read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfootes Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 When exactly did SLU get so good in basketball that some of its fans can get soo high and mighty? Putting down Temple, Rhode Island, and St. Joe's? All of these schools have elite-8 appearances in the last 20 years and they have won NCAA games in several different seasons. If you ask me, it is SLU that does not belong with them. I am sick of reading comments from your coach and many of your fans. If you don't like the A-10, leave as soon as possible. It is not as if you have done much for the conference or would be missed. GO NOW! I'm a little tired of the chatter myself, but if YOU are sick of these comments, kindly go back to your own board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 RF, thanks for coming and check you later. If you don't like reading about our coach and our fans then don't read it.check ya later... check ya later... chicks don't wanna hear that ######, man. they don't wanna hear anything, man... the girls, man, in our classes, they're all prudes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 When exactly did SLU get so good in basketball that some of its fans can get soo high and mighty? Putting down Temple, Rhode Island, and St. Joe's? All of these schools have elite-8 appearances in the last 20 years and they have won NCAA games in several different seasons. If you ask me, it is SLU that does not belong with them. I am sick of reading comments from your coach and many of your fans. If you don't like the A-10, leave as soon as possible. It is not as if you have done much for the conference or would be missed. GO NOW! Good stuff with the going back 20 years. Seriously. I am not putting down Temple, Rhody or St. Joes. As mentioned, Temple was a top program (often Top 20) under Chaney and I do think they will be again. Trouble is: for SLU, it is difficult to establish a real rivalry with a large public school from Philly - especially one with football aspirations. We've been burned with Cincy, Louisville, etc regarding good basketball program seeking conferences based largely on football. Other public schools closer to home would be better rivals than Temple. As to St. Joe and RI, again, they have been quite good in the past. As mentioned, RI in much more distant past. SLU has not been that good - in modern times - and I am not at all saying SLU is better than certain A10 schools and is too good for the A10. In response to fellow SLU fans (which is the purpose of this Board), playing other small Jesuit schools (Chicago Loyola, Detroit and Creighton) can offset the loss of St. Joe if SLU were to change yet again. Frankly, I am disappointed that St. Joes has not made a bigger financial commitment to winning and that they still play in a 4000 seat venue. Villanova has always been the better the program but I expected more of St. Joe. Going undefeated and nearly getting to the Final Four again is not my expectation but I did expect that St. Joe would challenge X more than they have in recent years. If you want to defend the A10 so much, then brag about the A10's TV schedule which is killing our basketball program. Remind us of the benefits for playing the Conf Tourney in a non-convenient and expensive location before empty seats. Explain how the A-10 decides which 3 teams we play twice each year and how fair that is? What is the conference doing to establish acceptable "floors" for the conference teams: scheduling criteria to prevent the bottom schools to be RPI killers. As to SLU, we have been a middle of the road program in the A10. Not claiming to be world beaters these past 5 years or so. Unlike other teams in the conference, though, we have had success in the recent past (1990s), we played and held our own in top conferences (Great Midwest & Conf USA), we had played in a 20,000 NBA quality facility where we would play before 12,000 fans for bigger games, we spent $85 million on facilities and in building a state of the art, on-campus facility which holds 10,600, that even in "down years" like this past decade, we averaged more fans per game than most A10 schools get and nearly double what many A10 schools can even accomodate but don't fill, we have not been on any type of NCAA probation and/or the subject of investigations like UMass, St. Bonnie and others, we had one of the more lucrative TV contracts until the A10 entered into the currect TV contract, we hired RM and, once again, are on the rise. So put that in $&*( and start reading other things that don't cause your blood pressure to soar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffinMH Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Good stuff with the going back 20 years. Seriously. I am not putting down Temple, Rhody or St. Joes. As mentioned, Temple was a top program (often Top 20) under Chaney and I do think they will be again. Trouble is: for SLU, it is difficult to establish a real rivalry with a large public school from Philly - especially one with football aspirations. We've been burned with Cincy, Louisville, etc regarding good basketball program seeking conferences based largely on football. Other public schools closer to home would be better rivals than Temple. As to St. Joe and RI, again, they have been quite good in the past. As mentioned, RI in much more distant past. SLU has not been that good - in modern times - and I am not at all saying SLU is better than certain A10 schools and is too good for the A10. In response to fellow SLU fans (which is the purpose of this Board), playing other small Jesuit schools (Chicago Loyola, Detroit and Creighton) can offset the loss of St. Joe if SLU were to change yet again. Frankly, I am disappointed that St. Joes has not made a bigger financial commitment to winning and that they still play in a 4000 seat venue. Villanova has always been the better the program but I expected more of St. Joe. Going undefeated and nearly getting to the Final Four again is not my expectation but I did expect that St. Joe would challenge X more than they have in recent years. If you want to defend the A10 so much, then brag about the A10's TV schedule which is killing our basketball program. Remind us of the benefits for playing the Conf Tourney in a non-convenient and expensive location before empty seats. Explain how the A-10 decides which 3 teams we play twice each year and how fair that is? What is the conference doing to establish acceptable "floors" for the conference teams: scheduling criteria to prevent the bottom schools to be RPI killers. As to SLU, we have been a middle of the road program in the A10. Not claiming to be world beaters these past 5 years or so. Unlike other teams in the conference, though, we have had success in the recent past (1990s), we played and held our own in top conferences (Great Midwest & Conf USA), we had played in a 20,000 NBA quality facility where we would play before 12,000 fans for bigger games, we spent $85 million on facilities and in building a state of the art, on-campus facility which holds 10,600, that even in "down years" like this past decade, we averaged more fans per game than most A10 schools get and nearly double what many A10 schools can even accomodate but don't fill, we have not been on any type of NCAA probation and/or the subject of investigations like UMass, St. Bonnie and others, we had one of the more lucrative TV contracts until the A10 entered into the currect TV contract, we hired RM and, once again, are on the rise. So put that in $&*( and start reading other things that don't cause your blood pressure to soar. The A10 is a good conference for SLU to be in based on the competition. Geographically it is certainly a problem but I think SLU does fit in well because of the enrollment and the fact that the majority schools in the A10 are Catholic. SLU's administration especially like the Catholic schools. Why do you think we would play a Div II school like Rockhurst? The A10 has a pretty decent RPI as a whole and SLU will continue to be more competitive as long as RM continues to draw the talent. Mo-Valley might be an option but don't like most of the schools there except for Creighton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF1 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Good stuff with the going back 20 years. Seriously. I am not putting down Temple, Rhody or St. Joes. As mentioned, Temple was a top program (often Top 20) under Chaney and I do think they will be again. Trouble is: for SLU, it is difficult to establish a real rivalry with a large public school from Philly - especially one with football aspirations. We've been burned with Cincy, Louisville, etc regarding good basketball program seeking conferences based largely on football. Other public schools closer to home would be better rivals than Temple. As to St. Joe and RI, again, they have been quite good in the past. As mentioned, RI in much more distant past. SLU has not been that good - in modern times - and I am not at all saying SLU is better than certain A10 schools and is too good for the A10. In response to fellow SLU fans (which is the purpose of this Board), playing other small Jesuit schools (Chicago Loyola, Detroit and Creighton) can offset the loss of St. Joe if SLU were to change yet again. Frankly, I am disappointed that St. Joes has not made a bigger financial commitment to winning and that they still play in a 4000 seat venue. Villanova has always been the better the program but I expected more of St. Joe. Going undefeated and nearly getting to the Final Four again is not my expectation but I did expect that St. Joe would challenge X more than they have in recent years. If you want to defend the A10 so much, then brag about the A10's TV schedule which is killing our basketball program. Remind us of the benefits for playing the Conf Tourney in a non-convenient and expensive location before empty seats. Explain how the A-10 decides which 3 teams we play twice each year and how fair that is? What is the conference doing to establish acceptable "floors" for the conference teams: scheduling criteria to prevent the bottom schools to be RPI killers. As to SLU, we have been a middle of the road program in the A10. Not claiming to be world beaters these past 5 years or so. Unlike other teams in the conference, though, we have had success in the recent past (1990s), we played and held our own in top conferences (Great Midwest & Conf USA), we had played in a 20,000 NBA quality facility where we would play before 12,000 fans for bigger games, we spent $85 million on facilities and in building a state of the art, on-campus facility which holds 10,600, that even in "down years" like this past decade, we averaged more fans per game than most A10 schools get and nearly double what many A10 schools can even accomodate but don't fill, we have not been on any type of NCAA probation and/or the subject of investigations like UMass, St. Bonnie and others, we had one of the more lucrative TV contracts until the A10 entered into the currect TV contract, we hired RM and, once again, are on the rise. So put that in $&*( and start reading other things that don't cause your blood pressure to soar. I get it. You don't like the A-10 or many of its programs even though most have had more success than SLU. So I say again - LEAVE. Most of the fans of other A-10 schools could care less. It is not like we would lose something special. Stop your constant whining. Petition your school to get you out. GO AS FAST AS POSSIBLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 The A10 is a good conference for SLU to be in based on the competition. Geographically it is certainly a problem but I think SLU does fit in well because of the enrollment and the fact that the majority schools in the A10 are Catholic. SLU's administration especially like the Catholic schools. Why do you think we would play a Div II school like Rockhurst? The A10 has a pretty decent RPI as a whole and SLU will continue to be more competitive as long as RM continues to draw the talent. Mo-Valley might be an option but don't like most of the schools there except for Creighton. Agree fully with you. The travel, distance and lack of true knowledge of the schools is a real problem. With airline travel (commerical or charter) flying into/out of places like Philly, NY, Washington and Charlotte, it doesn't seem, to me, to be as big of an issue as it is to RM. Apparently it is, though. Because our basketball program is only as good as our head coach, RM is really the only one that matters. Travel aside, I'd rather go East than West, I like playing in the major metropolitan areas and I like playing schools of similar size and backgroud: Catholic schools, in urban areas, w/o football and w/ similar-sized athletic budgets. If we are no longer going to be in the A10, then I don't want to play in the Valley b/c these schools are not similar in their size and background. Instead, they are mostly public schools, some with football, they don't have urban areas of interest (students, fans, alumni), they don't have big TV markets, they don't play in talent rich areas for new recruits and they have proven to not gain media attention and respect nationally. My point, instead, was that if we can stay together with X and UD, then playing a lesser Jesuit program of Detroit and Loyola Chicago could offset playing against St. Joe and LaSalle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 I get it. You don't like the A-10 or many of its programs even though most have had more success than SLU. So I say again - LEAVE. Most of the fans of other A-10 schools could care less. It is not like we would lose something special. Stop your constant whining. Petition your school to get you out. GO AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.Actually, you don't get it. You see only a partial picture, colored by some angry bias on your part. Which team are you a fan of? Are you ticked because SLU has beaten your team? Few of us dislike the A-10 or its teams, but a small number dislike the amount of travel SLU's membership in the conference causes. But you don't really see any whining here. Lastly, SLU's level of success isn't far inferior to that of many of the A-10 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF1 Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Actually, you don't get it. You see only a partial picture, colored by some angry bias on your part. Which team are you a fan of? Are you ticked because SLU has beaten your team? Few of us dislike the A-10 or its teams, but a small number dislike the amount of travel SLU's membership in the conference causes. But you don't really see any whining here. Lastly, SLU's level of success isn't far inferior to that of many of the A-10 teams. The other teams all have to travel out to St Louis for games as well. Do you think their coaches and student athletes like it? I however don't see them continually in the media complaining about it. SLU has been to the NCAA Tournament a total of six times. That puts it above only three A-10 members - SBU, Duquense, and Fordham. Listed by NCAA tournament appearances Temple - 27 Xavier - 20 Saint Joseph's - 20 Dayton - 14 Charlotte - 11 La Salle - 11 George Washington - 10 Rhode Island - 8 Richmond - 7 UMass - 7 Saint Louis - 6 Duquesne - 5 St. Bonaventure - 5 Fordham - 4 GO NOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinfootes Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Actually, you don't get it. You see only a partial picture, colored by some angry bias on your part. Which team are you a fan of? Are you ticked because SLU has beaten your team? Few of us dislike the A-10 or its teams, but a small number dislike the amount of travel SLU's membership in the conference causes. But you don't really see any whining here. Lastly, SLU's level of success isn't far inferior to that of many of the A-10 teams. This guy is a Rhode Island fan. He was on the board about 2 years ago doing the exact same thing. Remember Rhode Island had some great success under Jum Harrick, one of the all-time great cheaters. He's famous for filing flase expense reports, sexual misconduct with university employees, and academic fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyRican Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 The other teams all have to travel out to St Louis for games as well. Do you think their coaches and student athletes like it? I however don't see them continually in the media complaining about it. SLU has been to the NCAA Tournament a total of six times. That puts it above only three A-10 members - SBU, Duquense, and Fordham. Listed by NCAA tournament appearances Temple - 27 Xavier - 20 Saint Joseph's - 20 Dayton - 14 Charlotte - 11 La Salle - 11 George Washington - 10 Rhode Island - 8 Richmond - 7 UMass - 7 Saint Louis - 6 Duquesne - 5 St. Bonaventure - 5 Fordham - 4 GO NOW! I like how you use the caps function, it is really cool. St. Louis is one trip for many of those teams however we make it almost every game. If you are so tired of the argument then why are you here still talking about it? YOU GO AWAY AND GO NOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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