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Pat had his first four hit game Monday, he is up to an awesome 46 stolen bases and playing terrific defensive outfield

How much a scholarship costs a university is a murky and gray discussion. It all depends on what type of scholarship and what it covers. The cost of attendance is nothing. Books would cost SLU. Room & board would cost SLU. This would be something where SLU is losing the actual cost of what a non-athlete student would pay for that room If the athletes being provided a meal plan, that would cost SLU in some way. Not necessarily 100% of that value, however. Anything involving limited resources I don’t have the time to get more specific, there are some direct costs to the university.

Depends on how you do the accounting for the student athletes. For just scholarships, the cost is minimal. If you are kicking out a student paying full price to accommodate a student-athlete, then yes, it actually did cost SLU $50,000 in real money. Were there any paying students refused entry to SLU last year because of athletic scholarships? No. Did not happen. The other way to look at it is to say how much does it actually cost SLU in real dollar terms. Looking at the dashboard from SLU https://www.slu.edu/provost/office-of-institutional-research/institutional-data/student-enrollment.php. Last fall there were 15,334 total students, 8669 undergrad and 6665 graduate students. If enrollment increased by 219.4 students, then how much does it really cost SLU? Maybe a professor or 2, maybe a handful of TA’s. This does not cost the university $11 million. Most classes have room for an additional student or two after all. Maybe some other increased incidental expenses. But it does not cost the university $11 million additional dollars to educate 220 more students. Another proof of this is that enrollment was up 130 students from the year before last. Did SLU go on a multi-million dollar hiring spree (they would have needed to spend $5 million more to cover the 130 additional students after all!)? No, there were layoffs, and the education of students went on. The real issue this year is how much SLU will have to spend to pay for athletes. Using the example you gave above for IU, $20.5 mil cap, -75% for football, (which SLU does not have) leaves $5.125 Mil to match IU in spending total for athletes not on the football team. To keep the same proportions of IU’s spending across all other sports, we get $4.1 million for men’s basketball, and $1.025 million spread out among all other student athletes. Spend that much and we match IU dollar for dollar among non-football student athletes.

I have the same information you do...nothing. I would not expect SLU to boast many, if any, scholarships with the exception of men's basketball. Additional scholarships come at a cost to the Athletic Department. I did the math and SLU could add an additional 219.4 schollies and be at the new Roster Limits. I"m not sure about the financial value of each scholarship, but the SLU website lists $50K+ as tuition cost. Just use that as a round number, fully funding all sports would cost $11M. And even though some posters think money grows on trees, there is no reason to assume that type of money is available. P4 schools have the dilemma of whether to fund additional scholarships or give more money to athletes. The House P4 Rowing team or your Tennis teams, or do you pay your football and basketball teams (revenue generators) more money? IU AD Scott Dolson went public saying that IU will not be adding scholarships, because they don't want to dilute the $20.5M cap. [Interesting numbers Dolson gave, Football will receive 70 to 75% of the Revenue Share, men's basketball 20%, women's basketball and volleyball will get the next share of the pie, with the remainder sprinkled over the other 20 sports.] Of course SLU doesn't have to worry about the $20.5m cap, but this gives you a glimpse as to what is happening across the landscape. For SLU it is pay your basketball players or give that money to other non-revenue sports through scholarships. I for one would like to see the two soccer teams get a little boost, but time will tell if that happens. What happens this athletic season most likely will change for the subsequent seasons.

I agree about the Beast. But that seems like a pipe dream at this point. If the opportunity to get in really exists then we should pull out all the stops to be an invitee. Our history has always been as a member of a major BB conference until the A10 got depleted when X and Butler bolted. But if big time BB goes the FB route I’m not so sure even the Beast will be a major conf. I was just being realistic. Again, the Beast is our lifeline but it hasn’t been tossed.

I. was big lover of all u can eat Chinese buffets that were everywhere 80s & 90s. One of the craziest was place in Chesterfield with big flames out in front entrance. they had a red panda wannabe that would perform around the dining rooms.

Were those Zooperstars??

My favorite

What about those creepy weird mascot looking things that do races and then eat the cheerleaders?

If that is what the donors want and what they are willing to fund, where do you think the money required to move forward will come from?

I am OOO next week.

Outside of Basketball, I don't know how much SLU will change. Soccer I could see them stepping up on both sides. But I don't think they'll have any interest in adding for other sports. Hendo was quoted by Stu as saying he think SLU will stay at the current number for Basbeball.

I have not heard that information, I would love to know it, but I don’t think the AD will release that info

It’s not ok, and that thinking is what has held SLU back for years. There’s no excuse for them not to be in a conference with Marquette, Xavier, Creighton, and DePaul. SLU flat out prefers to be small time because that’s what the donors want.

Seems like these may have come from a few different coaches. They're on a few different AAU circuits. The more recent events have been HS teams playing summer tournaments, but even then, the 6 2026 offers this week have been pretty spread out. I think it's just offer season and they're formalizing things with some guys they've already been monitoring.

SLU’s never gonna be in one of the P5’s so we won’t face these pressures. That’s a good thing because the P5’s will for all practical purposes be professional sports teams. We and 300 other schools will be minor league semi pro teams. But that’s ok, we separate ourselves from the bigs and form new championship levels. It won’t be the end of the world.

Pistol, do you know if these four offers came from coaches watching an AAU event and then handing them out? Just seems odd that all four went out at the same time.

Looks like Jimerson with better shot mechanics. Could be a special season coming up. 23-24 regular season wins wouldn’t surprise me.

She needs to end up being the the basketball HOF. Her act only worked on basketball courts, so she was exclusive to that game. There are generations of fans and players who love her and her act. I've heard many stories about teams coming out from the locker room at halftime to watch her perform. If they let in executives, refs, broadcasters, etc. in the HOF, then they need to let the Panda in.

I actually got curious on this point and confirmed that the school he attends is primarily intended for the children of employees at The Villages. He appears to be from a couple towns over.

Based on this start time and comments that were previously made, I think @billikenfan05 has pretty much locked himself into going.

Plus he goes to high school in the Villages, so he has an old school work ethic.

Has there been an announcement made by SLU showing what the scholarship limits will be for each sport?

Thanks for the heads-up. I've renewed my women's tickets but gave it some serious thought first. I'll try to go just to see what they're working with.