RiseAndGrind Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, TheChosenOne said: Seriously? I do think Frank should probably calm down on the tweets about Tilmon though as he is signed with Illinois. Roy Schmidt is a dumbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 30 minutes ago, Bay Area Billiken said: No it isn't. Illinois could be self-sustaining with the right coach from the State of Illinois keeping Illinois players home. Indiana is not similarly self-sustaining. Lou Henson once chastised Bobby Knight: "He raids our state." I agree with 3-Star that Cuonzo Martin is probably the best current choice potentially out there for Illinois. Indiana and OSU are the best jobs in the B10. Illinois is in the middle somewhere. I don't even know how you can make an argument aside from, "well if they did this and this and this, and if this goes right and this goes right..." -- which I guess is what you are attempting to say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, majerus mojo said: Indiana and OSU are the best jobs in the B10. Illinois is in the middle somewhere. I don't even know how you can make an argument aside from, "well if they did this and this and this, and if this goes right and this goes right..." -- which I guess is what you are attempting to say? Huh? Did Michigan State leave the conference? I would say MSU are a top 5-7 program overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, Franchise_08 said: Huh? Did Michigan State leave the conference? I would say MSU are a top 5-7 program overall. Forgot about MSU for sure, but it would be interesting to see how they fare post Izzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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billikenfan05 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Remember that we're dealing with 17 year olds and let's not hang on every tweet. It will drive you insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: Remember that we're dealing with 17 year olds and let's not hang on every tweet. It will drive you insane Yea but I've been drinking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 1 hour ago, majerus mojo said: Huh. Illinois has a great class coming in which should remain largely intact. Mizzou is a dumpster fire We will see if that class remains intact. What I am trying to say is if you are a coach looking for your last job, Illinois is the better job by far. If you are looking for a job that will get you in line for one of the top 10 jobs in the country in 5 or 6 years, Mizzou is the better job for that right now. It will be the job where you can show a dramatic improvement quickly. Mizzou's basketball facilities are better than the Illini's. Plus, you don't have to compete with Michigan St, Indiana, Michigan, Maryland, Wisconsin Ohio St. and Purdue for spots at the top of the conference. I don't like Mizzou basketball, but I have to admit that job actually has some things going for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 41 minutes ago, brianstl said: We will see if that class remains intact. What I am trying to say is if you are a coach looking for your last job, Illinois is the better job by far. If you are looking for a job that will get you in line for one of the top 10 jobs in the country in 5 or 6 years, Mizzou is the better job for that right now. It will be the job where you can show a dramatic improvement quickly. Mizzou's basketball facilities are better than the Illini's. Plus, you don't have to compete with Michigan St, Indiana, Michigan, Maryland, Wisconsin Ohio St. and Purdue for spots at the top of the conference. I don't like Mizzou basketball, but I have to admit that job actually has some things going for it. I'd be surprised if IL loses any recruits. It seems that they are going to be able to attract an outstanding HC who should be able to keep the recruiting class intact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierBilliken Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 5 minutes ago, bauman said: I'd be surprised if IL loses any recruits. It seems that they are going to be able to attract an outstanding HC who should be able to keep the recruiting class intact. I hope you're wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbart33 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 i'm hoping tilmon comes to slu after groces firing--we would be really good-any info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 make it happen bart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band Legend Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Your topic title is much better than your post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Interesting thing happened on Illini Scout writer's Twitter feed yesterday. Derek Piper tweeted Quote Just spoke w/ @JavonPickett. Told me he will stick with Illinois. Said 2017 recruits texted right after news. Expects group to stay together Took it down about an hour later supposedly because Pickett claimed to have not said it and asked that Piper take it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 The groce gone thread is probably a good place to look for that info if there is any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 45 minutes ago, brianstl said: Interesting thing happened on Illini Scout writer's Twitter feed yesterday. Derek Piper tweeted Took it down about an hour later supposedly because Pickett claimed to have not said it and asked that Piper take it down. Illini message boards are going crazy with rumors about us being in Tilmon's ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 26 minutes ago, prebilliken said: Illini message boards are going crazy with rumors about us being in Tilmon's ear. People can be telling Tilmon to go to SLU now without anyone from SLU being in his ear. There are people in Tilmon's circle that are pro SLU and were pro SLU when Tilmon committed to the Illini. They can tell Tilmon whatever they want, whenever they want and no NCAA violations are committed. It isn't that hard to figure out who these people probably are and why they are pro SLU. It has nothing to do with bags of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prebilliken Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 1 hour ago, brianstl said: People can be telling Tilmon to go to SLU now without anyone from SLU being in his ear. There are people in Tilmon's circle that are pro SLU and were pro SLU when Tilmon committed to the Illini. They can tell Tilmon whatever they want, whenever they want and no NCAA violations are committed. It isn't that hard to figure out who these people probably are and why they are pro SLU. It has nothing to do with bags of money. Obviously I agree with that. I just find it hilarious that they believe SLU would dip in NCAA violation territory because Ford is at the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 3 hours ago, prebilliken said: Obviously I agree with that. I just find it hilarious that they believe SLU would dip in NCAA violation territory because Ford is at the helm. I thought Kansas was his 2nd choice. I think ILL is putting a full court press on all the recruits to stick with their LOIs and promising that they will bring in a big-time coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenOne Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 3 hours ago, prebilliken said: Obviously I agree with that. I just find it hilarious that they believe SLU would dip in NCAA violation territory because Ford is at the helm. It's not fair for SLU to do what programs like us do and get away with!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 20 minutes ago, bauman said: I thought Kansas was his 2nd choice. I think ILL is putting a full court press on all the recruits to stick with their LOIs and promising that they will bring in a big-time coach. If you believe the internet, Tilmon was thisclose to flipping to SLU, then he got caught taking money from $LU and quickly said he was going to actually go to Kansas, then Groce and Jamal Walker flew to East St. Louis and swayed Tilmon back to Illinois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: If you believe the internet, Tilmon was thisclose to flipping to SLU, then he got caught taking money from $LU and quickly said he was going to actually go to Kansas, then Groce and Jamal Walker flew to East St. Louis and swayed Tilmon back to Illinois. Hahahahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsgo Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 30 minutes ago, bauman said: I thought Kansas was his 2nd choice. I think ILL is putting a full court press on all the recruits to stick with their LOIs and promising that they will bring in a big-time coach. Why would you want to risk staying with a coach who may not want you? Especially a big name coach... more likely to recruit over you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 As far as I am concerned, this is beyond me and is probably not going to follow the rules of reason. Tillmon will do whatever he decides to do. If he comes to SLU we will celebrate, it not, it will be so bad. I agree he is a great player and would be a great addition to the Bills, all else is in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 1 hour ago, gobillsgo said: Why would you want to risk staying with a coach who may not want you? Especially a big name coach... more likely to recruit over you. Is this sarcasm? Who in this country could you recruit to play over tilmon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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