Old guy Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I fully agree with what you say Bauman, it is interesting information presented in some detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 FLA ST, a NCAA team from the ACC last year comes in at #80. They lost their 3 top scorers with the leading returning scorer being 8.4 pt/gm last year. They are projected to have 2 FR starters. The A-10 will now have 6 teams in the top 79 yet to be named and I expect that no A-10 team will be in the top 30, meaning 6 teams in the 31-79 group. Since this site projects a starting five for each team, I wonder who they will show when the Billikens are discussed. I would guess Foreman, Johnson, Bess, AD and Goodwin will be their projected 5. As I've said for a few weeks, Bills at 76, although that might not be high enough if this site is paying any attention to other writers who focus more on East Coast leagues/teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 3 hours ago, bauman said: FLA ST, a NCAA team from the ACC last year comes in at #80. They lost their 3 top scorers with the leading returning scorer being 8.4 pt/gm last year. They are projected to have 2 FR starters. The A-10 will now have 6 teams in the top 79 yet to be named and I expect that no A-10 team will be in the top 30, meaning 6 teams in the 31-79 group. Since this site projects a starting five for each team, I wonder who they will show when the Billikens are discussed. I would guess Foreman, Johnson, Bess, AD and Goodwin will be their projected 5. As I've said for a few weeks, Bills at 76, although that might not be high enough if this site is paying any attention to other writers who focus more on East Coast leagues/teams. Please explain how you seem to know that the A10 will have 6 teams in the top 79? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, cheeseman said: Please explain how you seem to know that the A10 will have 6 teams in the top 79? Davidson was the last team to show up in the top 144 at 84. In their preview Davidson is ranked as the 7th best team in the conference . That means 6 more A10 teams to go in the rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, brianstl said: Davidson was the last team to show up in the top 144 at 84. In their preview Davidson is ranked as the 7th best team in the conference . That means 6 more A10 teams to go in the rankings. I don't normally look into these deep rankings often, but I have to think having 7 teams in the top 84, especially for the A10 is very very good, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 By comparison, the A10 had 7 teams in the top 84 in 2012-2013. And 5 of those teams were in the top 40. The conference was so loaded then that Xavier finished 7th and wasn't one of the 7 teams in the top 84. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 41 minutes ago, brianstl said: Davidson was the last team to show up in the top 144 at 84. In their preview Davidson is ranked as the 7th best team in the conference . That means 6 more A10 teams to go in the rankings. Doesn't that assume that the person doing the 144 rankings agrees with those who did the A10 rankings? Not sure that your logic is very sound - perhaps possible but not necessarily so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, cheeseman said: Doesn't that assume that the person doing the 144 rankings agrees with those who did the A10 rankings? Not sure that your logic is very sound - perhaps possible but not necessarily so. That is the way they do it. Each conference has X # of teams in the entire list of 144. The lowest rated team to appear in the list of 144 is the lowest team that will appear in the list, and it is assigned a number, for example, Lasalle is the lowest team to be included in the top 144 list and it is shown to be 9th in the conference. That #9 is merely a product of the rank they give to the team (Lasalle) in the A-10. The ACC will have 13 teams in the list, because the # 105 school is an ACC school and is shown as the 13th best team in that conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, bauman said: That is the way they do it. Each conference has X # of teams in the entire list of 144. The lowest rated team to appear in the list of 144 is the lowest team that will appear in the list, and it is assigned a number, for example, Lasalle is the lowest team to be included in the top 144 list and it is shown to be 9th in the conference. That #9 is merely a product of the rank they give to the team (Lasalle) in the A-10. The ACC will have 13 teams in the list, because the # 105 school is an ACC school and is shown as the 13th best team in that conference. Interesting - thanks for explaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicCityBilliken Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Many of you probably noticed this, Lunardi's recent brackets predictions: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology It has only 2 teams in and one has to go through a play-in game. This could be the worse season the A10 has had since we joined in 2005 (I always say the best was 12-13 season, not because we won it but it was the strongest top-bottom). A lot of the national sports writers probably have no clue on what's going on at SLU with the transfers, incoming freshmen and incremental improvement the latter part of the season. Some of one's, like Jon Rothstein & A10 Talk, more familiar with A10 have us in the top 1/3rd of the conference standings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 hours ago, tarheelbilliken said: Many of you probably noticed this, Lunardi's recent brackets predictions: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology It has only 2 teams in and one has to go through a play-in game. This could be the worse season the A10 has had since we joined in 2005 (I always say the best was 12-13 season, not because we won it but it was the strongest top-bottom). A lot of the national sports writers probably have no clue on what's going on at SLU with the transfers, incoming freshmen and incremental improvement the latter part of the season. Some of one's, like Jon Rothstein & A10 Talk, more familiar with A10 have us in the top 1/3rd of the conference standings. Idk why but as a slu fan, the bonnies vs mizzou sounds like a hilariously entertaining game to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, wgstl said: Idk why but as a slu fan, the bonnies vs mizzou sounds like a hilariously entertaining game to watch I think Lunardi is asleep at the wheel when it comes to Mizzou. I can't stand them but they've got to be a top 20 team net year with all that talent. If not, Mr. Integrity isn't much of a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 33 minutes ago, kshoe said: I think Lunardi is asleep at the wheel when it comes to Mizzou. I can't stand them but they've got to be a top 20 team net year with all that talent. If not, Mr. Integrity isn't much of a coach. Correct. I would think 3-5 seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 54 minutes ago, kshoe said: I think Lunardi is asleep at the wheel when it comes to Mizzou. I can't stand them but they've got to be a top 20 team net year with all that talent. If not, Mr. Integrity isn't much of a coach. I think a lot of people remember the Cal team a couple of seasons ago. That team added two top 10 recruits to roster that already had Jabari Bird, Jordan Mathews and Tyrone Wallace. That is four NBA draft picks and another guy who scored 1,600 points in his career. Bird and Wallace missed the NCAA game, but that team never was at any point in that season what it should have been. They were 5-11 in road/neutral site games. Their best road win was against against a UW team that Pomeroy ranked 66. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 7 hours ago, tarheelbilliken said: Many of you probably noticed this, Lunardi's recent brackets predictions: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology It has only 2 teams in and one has to go through a play-in game. This could be the worse season the A10 has had since we joined in 2005 (I always say the best was 12-13 season, not because we won it but it was the strongest top-bottom). A lot of the national sports writers probably have no clue on what's going on at SLU with the transfers, incoming freshmen and incremental improvement the latter part of the season. Some of one's, like Jon Rothstein & A10 Talk, more familiar with A10 have us in the top 1/3rd of the conference standings. He has Va Tech, our NY opponent as a 7 seed. I wonder where he will have them after they lose to SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 13 minutes ago, bauman said: He has Va Tech, our NY opponent as a 7 seed. I wonder where he will have them after they lose to SLU. and butler a 7 seed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Boy if league gets any worse than last year not a good thing at all. Stay bad long enough we'll be slipping onto 1 bid conference land. I thought last year was low water mark for league and that others were in same shape as us, looking bright this year and next. If A-10 as bad as last season I can't imagine not finishing 500 or better in league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 The whole league seems pretty tough to predict this year, not just us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 21 hours ago, almaman said: Boy if league gets any worse than last year not a good thing at all. Stay bad long enough we'll be slipping onto 1 bid conference land. I thought last year was low water mark for league and that others were in same shape as us, looking bright this year and next. If A-10 as bad as last season I can't imagine not finishing 500 or better in league. Last year the league was not good but it still got 3 teams in the dance. Let's not act like it was complete garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 21 hours ago, almaman said: Boy if league gets any worse than last year not a good thing at all. Stay bad long enough we'll be slipping onto 1 bid conference land. I thought last year was low water mark for league and that others were in same shape as us, looking bright this year and next. If A-10 as bad as last season I can't imagine not finishing 500 or better in league. .500? Really, with the A-10 "as bad as last year." ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 What concerns me most about the A10 are the loss of good coaches, ie Miller and Wade. However, I do trust in both UD and VCU to get the best guys available for a high mid major league. Hopefully, the new guys they have work out for both programs. As for some other A10 programs, I do get the feeling they are not making the commitment to bring in the best they can get. URI, St.B's, Davidson, Richmond, and SLU appear to have hired the best they can get for a high mid major conference, but the other schools in the league need to make similar investments. I was kind of surprised at Lunardi's projections for the A10 getting only two teams in the dance, as, in the past, he's typically been a promoter of the conference. However, it's kind of difficult to argue with him given all the unknowns with the high HC turnover rate the league experienced last season. As for SLU, a lot of these analysts are probably scratching their heads over us as there is little or no history to go on with our current roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Today's addition to the top 144 list is the #77 ranked team, and it should be of particular interest to Billiken fans. It is our 2-year West Coast playing partner, Oregon State. The write-up makes for interesting reading-they are a very young team, with the main positive being that they are getting their star player back from an almost entire season ending injury. Maybe more interesting is the fact that they had an overall record of 5-27 last year; 1-17 in PAC 12 play. So it appears that the Top 144 editors do look beyond last year's record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgstl Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 By 69th guess is not looking to hot right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Oregon State's top freshman is 6'4 shooting guard who is a consensus top 40 player. He's supposed to be one of the best shooters on the West Coast. He's expected to be an impact scorer right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 It's definitely getting interesting for whether we get named or ignored. If, as Bauman points out, the guy sticks to his conference rankings we could be coming up in the near future, or maybe not. Although, it's hard for me to understand how we'd be rated lower than both GMU and LaSalle in the conference. Since this guy is giving OSU so much credit for their incoming recruits, you'd expect he'd do the same for SLU with Goodwin and French coming on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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