RiseAndGrind Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 He works very hard, a tireless recruiter, and he did have some recruiting success for us. He won on some big time recruits. What he failed to do as far as recruiting goes, is recruit a complete roster. He always had major holes at the 4 and 5 position and he'd have a plethora of thin, 6'5-6'7 "athletes" who would be forced to play in the post, and ride the bench, while we lacked true big men. Most of our fans did not appreciate his style of play. (disclaimer: this may have had something to do with most of us being accustomed to Eddie Sutton grind out, tough defense, high iq, half court ball). In fact, we sometimes questioned if he had a style of play. He promised uptempo basketball, and it seemed he recruited athletes to play this way, but it never really translated on the court. Not only did he fail to recruit true big men, he also failed to develop the few we did have. It did not seem to be an emphasis for him. It seemed his assistant coaches were pretty useless, and he didn't make as many changes as he should have, in my opinion. I'll note some of his weaknesses from my perspective: NOT LEARNING FROM HIS MISTAKES. Almost every year we had one dominant player, Eaton his senior year, James Anderson, Marcus Smart. He rode some of these guys into the ground, and I think they would tire out by seasons end. We had a terrible conference road record during Ford's tenure. My impression: he did not emphasize high percentage shots. Time and again it seemed we'd either jack up a shot without running an offense, or we'd waste the shot clock then ended up settling for a low percentage shot. His offense just did not work. It did not go inside out through most of his time with us. It was very rare for us to have a post presence (which again goes back to lack of recruiting them, lack of developing them). Hell one year, our roster was so depleted we had play a walk on a few times at the end of the season, and he actually brought some life to our team rebounding, playing interior d, two things we severely lacked even before injuries. That was a small, but significant event resulting in myself questioning Coach Ford's awareness. We had decent transition D, but part of the reason was because we did not attempt to get offensive rebounds. Low percentage shots, getting dominated on the boards= terrible road record, pretty simple equation. Here's his final career road record at OSU pulled from our message board: Ford needs to give big men a chance. You need Ford to do a better job of piecing together a complete roster instead of 1-2 studs, but gaping holes elsewhere. Ford needs to establish an identity. If he's going to recruit a bunch of "athletes", he needs to run a system best suited for them. I think we hired a younger Jim Crews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizziken Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Just so everyone knows, SLU went against our search firm's recommendations with this hire. Who did they recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikens747 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Just so everyone knows, SLU went against our search firm's recommendations with this hire. Are you an insider? Because I no longer trust insiders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 ??? Explain JMM and I operate a high-powered search firm out of my basement. We didn't want Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Billikens08 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Is it odd that the University hasn't posted anything about the hire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 JMM and I operate a high-powered search firm out of my basement. We didn't want Ford. My final report ranked a bee covered in whiteout over Ford for this job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 If this hire doesn't work out and we aren't competing in 3 years, I'm pretty sure Ford won't be the only one in AD getting booted out of the Fetz.... Chris May better get down on his knees and pray this works out for the best, as should all Billikens fans at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastBilliken Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 JMM and I operate a high-powered search firm out of my basement. We didn't want Ford. Haha got ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VeniceMenace Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Did someone say we need a point guard? http://pilotonline.com/sports/college/old-dominion/basketball/top-odu-basketball-recruit-says-he-s-no-longer-coming/article_543155c2-dc42-5aeb-9cdd-e5cf2163566d.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 What he failed to do as far as recruiting goes, is recruit a complete roster. He always had major holes at the 4 and 5 position and he'd have a plethora of thin, 6'5-6'7 "athletes" who would be forced to play in the post, and ride the bench, while we lacked true big men. Most of our fans did not appreciate his style of play. In fact, we sometimes questioned if he had a style of play. He promised uptempo basketball, and it seemed he recruited athletes to play this way, but it never really translated on the court. Not only did he fail to recruit true big men, he also failed to develop the few we did have. It did not seem to be an emphasis for him. It seemed his assistant coaches were pretty useless, and he didn't make as many changes as he should have, in my opinion. We had a terrible conference road record during Ford's tenure. My impression: he did not emphasize high percentage shots. Time and again it seemed we'd either jack up a shot without running an offense, or we'd waste the shot clock then ended up settling for a low percentage shot. His offense just did not work. Hell one year, our roster was so depleted we had play a walk on a few times at the end of the season Jesus he sounds like Crews 2.0! What a scam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 My final report ranked a bee covered in whiteout over Ford for this job. Our metrics had that bee, Floyd Irons and several other candidates rated higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ARon Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 SLU sent this statement tonight "Saint Louis University has not hired a men's basketball coach. The process is ongoing." -Rene Knott on twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 SLU sent this statement tonight "Saint Louis University has not hired a men's basketball coach. The process is ongoing." -Rene Knott on twitter Let's get that bee a job!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastBilliken Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 What a screw job by stu! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 SLU sent this statement tonight "Saint Louis University has not hired a men's basketball coach. The process is ongoing." -Rene Knott on twitter Lol Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 What a screw job by stu! #firestu #pluggedin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 SLU sent this statement tonight "Saint Louis University has not hired a men's basketball coach. The process is ongoing." -Rene Knott on twitter The plot thickens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Have we been Stu'ed up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 What exactly is going on??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeSmetBilliken Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 SLU sent this statement tonight "Saint Louis University has not hired a men's basketball coach. The process is ongoing." -Rene Knott on twitter Wait...WHAT??!!?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 SLU sent this statement tonight "Saint Louis University has not hired a men's basketball coach. The process is ongoing." -Rene Knott on twitter Maybe they read the board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindellWest Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I had already moved on from Denial to Anger, now I'm moving backward on the grief scale.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westy03 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Matt Painter to mizzou all over again. The post dispatch really has these hires figured out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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