The Wiz Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Another tough loss to SIU-C. Post game analysis in the SIU-C thread shows we should have won that game by 2....but poor shooting and another meltdown in the 2nd half (5 min w/o a shot....8 min w/o a basket) buried us. And now it doesn't get any easier. After the SIU-C game we are now at C- (btw the Salukis climb to B- and are showing last team in the tourney at this point....CBI) We face K-St who checks in at B+ ...NIT at this point but certainly a good chance at the Big Dance. As you can see by the spread, we have our work cut out.... Here is what we need to do to win.... $LU Slashline....47/ 36 / 70 35 Reb 12 TO's KSU Slash.....38 / 25 35 Reb Hold Edwards to 10 pts Bottomline...If we play poorly we will get killed...If we finally put our game together....Shoot decent, no meltdowns ( 8 min w/o a basket) , keep TO's down (12) ...we can make a game of it. We are due for a good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 -KSt is 73 at KenPom and 21 in his ranking on defense, with it still being the holidays perhaps a drink per minute we don't score will make the contest less memorable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 KSU by 34. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 This may be the game that Vegas linemakers overreact to the Bills downward spiral. That said, there may be degen gamblers out there really hating SLU right now seeing as we havent sniffed covering since TN Martin and we (historically) been very good at home. Not touching this one. The fact that we have Saint Louis on our jerseys seems to put our opponent in the mindset that we are a tough team because they think we are cut from the same ilk as those RM teams. Carbondale's bench cheered like they were about to knock off a top 15 team or something. It really made my skin crawl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 If this team is going to suck, I just hope they suck consistently allowing a chance for investors to make some money wagering on their suckiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) K State is not going to take their foot off the gas. Weber recruits St Louis hard. He doesn't want to give any reason to any local player to consider SLU over K State. Plus, he is probably still pissed about never getting an interview when Brad was hired. K State wins big. Edited December 23, 2015 by brianstl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 FWIW...in K St last 2 games (both at home)...they beat N Dak ( D ) by 14 (yes a team worse than us) and Col St (C+ ) by 5 . So the Wildcats are not setting the world on fire now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billfan78 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 K State is not going to take their foot off the gas. Weber recruits St Louis hard. He doesn't want to give any reason to any local player to consider SLU over K State. Plus, he is probably still pissed about never getting an interview when Brad was fired. K State wins big. He was pissed? I always thought the sole reason Brad was fired at that point in time was because Majerus was essentially hired already. Was anyone else ever even considered or interviewed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 He was pissed? I always thought the sole reason Brad was fired at that point in time was because Majerus was essentially hired already. Was anyone else ever even considered or interviewed? I should have typed when Brad was hired. He was supposedly very interested in the job at that time coming off a Sweet 16 at SIU. He didn't even get an interview. Corrected the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 State by Eight........TWENTY-eight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenblue Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Another tough loss to SIU-C. Post game analysis in the SIU-C thread shows we should have won that game by 2....but poor shooting and another meltdown in the 2nd half (5 min w/o a shot....8 min w/o a basket) buried us. And now it doesn't get any easier. After the SIU-C game we are now at C- (btw the Salukis climb to B- and are showing last team in the tourney at this point....CBI) We face K-St who checks in at B+ ...NIT at this point but certainly a good chance at the Big Dance. As you can see by the spread, we have our work cut out.... Here is what we need to do to win.... $LU Slashline....47/ 36 / 70 35 Reb 12 TO's KSU Slash.....38 / 25 35 Reb Hold Edwards to 10 pts Bottomline...If we play poorly we will get killed...If we finally put our game together....Shoot decent, no meltdowns ( 8 min w/o a basket) , keep TO's down (12) ...we can make a game of it. We are due for a good game. Wiz..use all the stats you want ..this is no way a C- team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 K State is not a good shooting team so there's a snowball's chance in hell that we can be competitive. OTOH, their bigs are pretty good and our bigs are pretty not good. It'll be dominance in the paint and another blowout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 Can honestly say have little interest in the game knowing that it will be another beat down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Good news: If the game ended at the under-4 media timeout (3:52), you were spot on. Bad news: There was 3:52 left in the game. I don't understand how they widened the margin by 14 in the last few minutes of this thing, but it went from a comfortable win to a pretty big blowout just like that. They were just coasting in for layups at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 State by Eight........TWENTY-eight! I had this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I had this one. Good call. It's going to be like this the rest of the year. My guess is that by season's end, there will only be a few SWAC teams with worse kenpom, rpi, sagarin, etc. ratings. This is just one bad, hopeless team with no answers anywhere on the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Good news: If the game ended at the under-4 media timeout (3:52), you were spot on. Bad news: There was 3:52 left in the game. I don't understand how they widened the margin by 14 in the last few minutes of this thing, but it went from a comfortable win to a pretty big blowout just like that. They were just coasting in for layups at the end. Good news: If the game ended at the under-4 media timeout (3:52), you were spot on. Bad news: There was 3:52 left in the game. I don't understand how they widened the margin by 14 in the last few minutes of this thing, but it went from a comfortable win to a pretty big blowout just like that. They were just coasting in for layups at the end. This happens when you stop playing.....At the 616 mark in the 2nd half the Bills trailed by 12....and then they were out scored 21-5 through the end of the game with only 1 basket ....at the 103 mark. The computer always assumes it is a 40 min game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderball Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 This happens when you stop playing.....At the 616 mark in the 2nd half the Bills trailed by 12....and then they were out scored 21-5 through the end of the game with only 1 basket ....at the 103 mark. The computer always assumes it is a 40 min game. You need to calculate that into the system. This team in its current state cannot be a C- team. These guys are coming unglued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 You need to calculate that into the system. This team in its current state cannot be a C- team. These guys are coming unglued. I could figure in a 33 min game for the Bills...the only team playing 33min out of 351 teams but that would be a lot of work. How about if we just play 40 min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soderball Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I could figure in a 33 min game for the Bills...the only team playing 33min out of 351 teams but that would be a lot of work. How about if we just play 40 min. It would be a more accurate representation of the Jim Crews system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 It would be a more accurate representation of the Jim Crews system.These bums need the Peter Blunt System. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 As Taj pointed out in another thread, this is like an accident ...it is hard to look away. For those that can't look away, I will try to make this short and as pain free as possible. Dismal shooting.....33.3/ 17.9 / 47....and to make it worse....2nd half was 25% / 14% Turnovers 19 This is a killer. I have harped on this all season . ....We give up 1 27 pts per TO.......In the Ind St game we had 22 TOs ...an extra 10 TOs worth about 13 pts ...which means we were also missing 10 possessions... We shot over 50% in that game...1/2 of those 10 go in is another 10pts....13 + 10 = 23 pt swing...way too many pts to give up ...Even if you give up an extra 8 TOs ...that's an 18 pt swing. Bottomline ...18+ TOs / gm = loss ...Protecting the ball doesn't guarantee a win....but not protecting the ball guarantees a loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Wiz, how many games are left that we will be favored in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Wiz, how many games are left that we will be favored in? We have 2 more wins....GM @ home & LaS away Plus 2 more possible wins (45-50% chance of winning)....Duq @ home & St. B @ home So 7 wins for the season....9 possible If we can put things together we can win a few extra...Not talking about season best games...just decent as in 46/36/70 and around 12 TO's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 These bums need the Peter Blunt System. glad I never watched II if that's best scene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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