MB73 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 We definitely need a fierce looking Billiken mascot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 We definitely need a fierce looking Billiken mascot. That and a team that looks good coming out of the tunnel should do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deutschkind Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 I was interested to discover that this is actually a licensed version of Donald Duck. Wow. Had no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Rebrands can be good but they also can be bad, we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Rebrands can be good but they also can be bad, we will see. Well said. Really going out on a limb there. You sure covered all your bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Rebrands can be good but they also can be bad, we will see. Would you say it's 50/50? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Even with an astronomical budget, it can be 50/50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 That is absolutely correct Bonwich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 -I will take these reports of radical changes to The Billiken as unfounded as I can't believe the U would make such a massive blunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irishdude Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I was interested to discover that this is actually a licensed version of Donald Duck. Liscensed through Disney and by the way, Oregon is the only non Disney entity to have such a license. Or at least it used to be that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Law Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Yes, ensuring that your mascot looks "fierce" is the key to long-term success both on the court and in team gear sales. I agree. Is Brutus the Buckeye, "fierce?" Testudo the Turtle? The ND Leprechaun? Puddles the Duck (yes, his name is "Puddles"). The Billiken was certainly "fierce" enough the previous years to win national titles in soccer and conference titles in hoops. IMO, changing or abandoning the Billiken would be a decision beyond horrible. It is one of, it not them most unique mascots in D1 and with the right marketing should be one of the most popular. I know professional athletes who are SLU grads who love the Billiken, it was apparently "fierce" enough for them. And going to "fierce" doesn't mean good. Look at DePaul. Billy Blue Demon was a classic but the rebrand is brutal. And, success certainly hasn't followed in the wake of retiring Billy for Dibs despite being more "fierce." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I agree. Is Brutus the Buckeye, "fierce?" Testudo the Turtle? The ND Leprechaun? Puddles the Duck (yes, his name is "Puddles"). The Billiken was certainly "fierce" enough the previous years to win national titles in soccer and conference titles in hoops. IMO, changing or abandoning the Billiken would be a decision beyond horrible. It is one of, it not them most unique mascots in D1 and with the right marketing should be one of the most popular. I know professional athletes who are SLU grads who love the Billiken, it was apparently "fierce" enough for them. And going to "fierce" doesn't mean good. Look at DePaul. Billy Blue Demon was a classic but the rebrand is brutal. And, success certainly hasn't followed in the wake of retiring Billy for Dibs despite being more "fierce." They're not getting rid of the Billiken. Chris May would be fired for being dumb enough to present the idea as possible. The fierce thing is so silly. Most universities have primary logos that are just letters. The physical mascot (person in costume) is for kids. That doesn't and shouldn't need to be "fierce." I can't think of a single seconardy mascot logo that is "fierce." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well, we have always said that we want to be like X. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well, we have always said that we want to be like X. So are you advocating we make the Billiken meaner and appeal to the adults, while adding a fury, blue blob sidekick for the kids? Or does the Billiken become the kid-friendly sidekick and we introduce something more menacing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Law Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 They're not getting rid of the Billiken. Chris May would be fired for being dumb enough to present the idea as possible. The fierce thing is so silly. Most universities have primary logos that are just letters. The physical mascot (person in costume) is for kids. That doesn't and shouldn't need to be "fierce." I can't think of a single seconardy mascot logo that is "fierce." back in 2002 a rebranding took place with the new font and "SLU" logo, primarily to create uniformity amongst all teams. At the time I was told that any change to the Billiken would have to come from Father Biondi. I have no idea if that is still the case with the new President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Ken Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 What are the radical changes everyone keeps mentioning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 What are the radical changes everyone keeps mentioning? Putting Pierre Laclede and August Chouteau on the Logo. However, I heard it cold be nixed because Phil Knight and Nike stole the idea and are putting Lewis & Clark on Oregon's helmets this Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Putting Pierre Laclede and August Chouteau on the Logo. However, I heard it cold be nixed because Phil Knight and Nike stole the idea and are putting Lewis & Clark on Oregon's helmets this Saturday. Stop trying such misdirection. The insider scoop is that they're taking John Stamos' face (angry version) and Billikenizing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Can't possibly be as bad as BROWNS down the pants with the weird cutoff stripey thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Stop trying such misdirection. The insider scoop is that they're taking John Stamos' face (angry version) and Billikenizing it. Some creative person who's on gets on this site has to create this. I don't know how, but for someone who does, it can't be that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 Some creative person who's on gets on this site has to create this. I don't know how, but for someone who does, it can't be that hard. The best I could get http://www.morphthing.com/image/89560705-john-stamos-extorted-300-jpg-Slu-billiken-jpg?key=9bdc8d70a7dd436681a3abdddb111444 http://www.morphthing.com/image/89560651-john-stamos-extorted-300-jpg-billiken-400x400-jpg?key=fbdee7c455874e83c47003755606bfeb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 The best I could get http://www.morphthing.com/image/89560705-john-stamos-extorted-300-jpg-Slu-billiken-jpg?key=9bdc8d70a7dd436681a3abdddb111444 http://www.morphthing.com/image/89560651-john-stamos-extorted-300-jpg-billiken-400x400-jpg?key=fbdee7c455874e83c47003755606bfeb Party on. We have a winner already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Party on. We have a winner already. Have mercy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 -is that Earnest Borgnine or Leonid Brezhnev or perhaps a love child they conceived? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted November 2, 2015 Author Share Posted November 2, 2015 http://www.slu.edu/news-1113-slu-to-unveil-new-logos-for-university-and-billiken-athletics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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