RiseAndGrind Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 This is what West Pine Gym looks like now. I was...shocked. http://www.slu.edu/x85999.xml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'm gonna save MB73 the time and say that that looks pretty foo foo to me. Seems to me they should replace all those little flags of countries that don't matter with a huge AMERICAN flag. And all that foo foo furniture with about a hundred plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Great. Let's bring in global competitors, educate them, allow them to use their superior USA education to compete against the us, using slave labor to undercut our costs of manufacturing after they develop business plans, etc. India is among the most famous for obtaining USA scholarships, though there are plenty others, attending USA universities, getting MBA's, science PhD's, whatever, then going back and using their education to undercut USA companies. I have personally been contacted and / or involved in these situations in the medical device and pharmaceutical businesses. Paying people slave labor, they can still ship over the oceans and low ball our prices. I mostly told them to stuff it. Damn I liked that gym. Now it is a foo-foo political symbol of our foolish generosity. They are laughing at us. We are getting scammed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Wow I wrote that before seeing Jimbo. I used the "foo foo" in a different context in some ways, but Jimbo was all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Great. Let's bring in global competitors, educate them, allow them to use their superior USA education to compete against the us, using slave labor to undercut our costs of manufacturing after they develop business plans, etc. India is among the most famous for obtaining USA scholarships, though there are plenty others, attending USA universities, getting MBA's, science PhD's, whatever, then going back and using their education to undercut USA countries. I have personally been contacted and / or involved in these situations in the medical device and pharmaceutical businesses. Paying people slave labor, they can still ship over the oceans and low ball our prices. I mostly told them to stuff it. Damn I liked that gym. Now it is a foo-foo political symbol of our foolish generosity. They are laughing at us. We are getting scammed. Candidate for post of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillikenFriar Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Also, the metric system is for *******. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Great. Let's bring in global competitors, educate them, allow them to use their superior USA education to compete against the us, using slave labor to undercut our costs of manufacturing after they develop business plans, etc. India is among the most famous for obtaining USA scholarships, though there are plenty others, attending USA universities, getting MBA's, science PhD's, whatever, then going back and using their education to undercut USA countries. I have personally been contacted and / or involved in these situations in the medical device and pharmaceutical businesses. Paying people slave labor, they can still ship over the oceans and low ball our prices. I mostly told them to stuff it. Damn I liked that gym. Now it is a foo-foo political symbol of our foolish generosity. They are laughing at us. We are getting scammed. But not totally stuff it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyRican Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I will miss the old West Pine Gym. Running those stupid stairs, batting practice in the dungeon upstairs and study hall in the basement. On a few occasions I leven left some night before Humps beer, burger and fries on the floor. RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 But not totally stuff it? To be specific, I did not work directly with the Asian companies. I accepted consulting fees from USA PE companies that were considering investing huge sums in some of these companies, and after reviewing all aspects of the business models, I made recommendations on whether or not to invest. One Asian company with Ivy League MBA owners failed after a few years, severe quality problems, recalls, products used in hospitals on human patients. So I saved the USA PE company from making a huge mistake. Direct offers from the Asian companies were flatly rejected. Told them to stuff it. Not sure if you understand at all. Doubt it. Hate to see the good old West Pine Gym used this way, what, $ 8 million to revamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 From a SLU basketball fan's standpoint, I don't understand how this can be a negative. We no longer have to take recruits in there to show them one of the worst facilities in Division I for practice and conditioning. They could have turned it into the MB73 School of Interpretive Ballet for all I care. As it stands, it looks pretty nice. For those who haven't looked through the slideshow, there's an auditorium on the other side of the partition. Given the limitations of the building, they did what appears to be a nice job with it. My understanding is that there were a lot of challenges to tearing the building down, so there were going to be very limited options for what they could do with it. I had originally hoped they could use that prime space for more student housing or something like that. But this will do. Maybe someone in opposition to this use of the building could enlighten me: do the schools ahead of SLU in the various university rankings close themselves off to international students? I can't imagine Ivy League schools would have something as frivolous as an international student center on campus. Pretty sure Georgetown and Boston College have "AMERICANS ONLY" on the gates. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheA_Bomb Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Great. Let's bring in global competitors, educate them, allow them to use their superior USA education to compete against the us, using slave labor to undercut our costs of manufacturing after they develop business plans, etc. India is among the most famous for obtaining USA scholarships, though there are plenty others, attending USA universities, getting MBA's, science PhD's, whatever, then going back and using their education to undercut USA countries. I have personally been contacted and / or involved in these situations in the medical device and pharmaceutical businesses. Paying people slave labor, they can still ship over the oceans and low ball our prices. I mostly told them to stuff it. Damn I liked that gym. Now it is a foo-foo political symbol of our foolish generosity. They are laughing at us. We are getting scammed. Damn right about this stuff. Also is Ikea paying SLU to have a showroom right on campus? Used to be a place where men went to sweat but now it looks like a place to sip some fair trade flavored coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 But wait - i thought Biondi tore down all the old buildings?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I've initiated a Kickstarter campaign to raise funds for the Lee Greenwood Institute for Murican Studies. I have already commissioned a giant mural depicting an eagle crapping on Smart Car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbizzle09 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 I've initiated a Kickstarter campaign to raise funds for the Lee Greenwood Institute for Murican Studies. I have already commissioned a giant mural depicting an eagle crapping on Smart Car. Some of the classes and exhibits that will be held there are: Charlie Daniels: A Discussion on Flag Appreciation Japan: 21st Century Partner or Sneaky Bastards? Frank Lutz: How to Say Racist Things But Not Sound Racist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 bizzle - nothing on that commie bastard Putin? Disappointing at best. No confidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Some of the classes and exhibits that will be held there are: Charlie Daniels: A Discussion on Flag Appreciation Japan: 21st Century Partner or Sneaky Bastards? Frank Lutz: How to Say Racist Things But Not Sound Racist Don't forget about Hank Williams, Jr.'s Nepotism 101 and his lecture "What If Bragg had more troops?" - a hypothetical look at the battle of Franklin and the disaster on the Cumberland River. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 But wait - i thought Biondi tore down all the old buildings?!? +1000 That was exactly my thought. SLU saves the historic West Pine Gym and finds an alternate use for it, but gets criticized for tearing down old rat and insect infested, nobody wants to use them, partially fallen down, old ass row houses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 +1000 That was exactly my thought. SLU saves the historic West Pine Gym and finds an alternate use for it, but gets criticized for tearing down old rat and insect infested, nobody wants to use them, partially fallen down, old ass row houses. This was a creative reuse of a historic building, and the university should be applauded for it. That doesn't mean it hasn't made poor decisions in regard to other historic buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 +1000 That was exactly my thought. SLU saves the historic West Pine Gym and finds an alternate use for it, but gets criticized for tearing down old rat and insect infested, nobody wants to use them, partially fallen down, old ass row houses. I believe the criteria for saving a building is having a smokestack. Smokestacks are historic by definition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 My best memory of West Pine ... One of the years I took my teams to the ladies games. We are sitting in the 1st few rows right over the Billiken Bench. These are 8-13 year old girls leaning over the railing and watching the girls on the bench. Shimmy subs out for a player and calls the player over, grabs her and just lays into her F bombs and G damns flying like mad as loud as Shimmy can yell. I looked at some of the parents and immediately decided we should find different seating. I have parents still laughing about that today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 One thing I like about the inside of this building is that it gives students more common space, a major shortcoming of the Busch Student Center redesign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 This was a creative reuse of a historic building, and the university should be applauded for it. That doesn't mean it hasn't made poor decisions in regard to other historic buildings. Yup! And the fact that it was virtually impossible to tear down West Pine. Congrats - you didn't do something you weren't allowed to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 From a SLU basketball fan's standpoint, I don't understand how this can be a negative. We no longer have to take recruits in there to show them one of the worst facilities in Division I for practice and conditioning. They could have turned it into the MB73 School of Interpretive Ballet for all I care. As it stands, it looks pretty nice. For those who haven't looked through the slideshow, there's an auditorium on the other side of the partition. Given the limitations of the building, they did what appears to be a nice job with it. My understanding is that there were a lot of challenges to tearing the building down, so there were going to be very limited options for what they could do with it. I had originally hoped they could use that prime space for more student housing or something like that. But this will do. Maybe someone in opposition to this use of the building could enlighten me: do the schools ahead of SLU in the various university rankings close themselves off to international students? I can't imagine Ivy League schools would have something as frivolous as an international student center on campus. Pretty sure Georgetown and Boston College have "AMERICANS ONLY" on the gates. Right? Also, considering how many foreign players we have been recruiting in recent years, this can't be a bad thing. I say foreign students are welcome as long as they are tall, athletic and possess great jumpshots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Also, considering how many foreign players we have been recruiting in recent years, this can't be a bad thing. I say foreign students are welcome as long as they are tall, athletic and possess great jumpshots Bullsh!t. We don't want none of them furners unless they can dunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 PS: You wanna see an interesting historical perspective from Billikens.com? Check out a discussion we had five years ago about the merits and probability of renovating West Pine:http://www.billikens.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=14631Also: There's some sniping in that thread about tearing down an old apartment building. Here's an interesting present-day contrast:Vacant St. Louis building to become housing for homeless vets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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