slu72 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Box, it's an outlet for our nervous anxiety, which Billiken fans have in abundance, and why not? We know we don't control squat in whatever's coming down, so we speculate to the tune of 670+ posts that mean nothing, but they make us feel better, or, conversely, cause us increased angst and stress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 This thread is getting to be as bad as our old Missouri Valley threads where everyone just repeats the same shite over and over again. -Box nails it once again!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Again, you are all trying to predict what seven Catholic University Presidents are going to reach a concensus upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 This thread is getting to be as bad as our old Missouri Valley threads where everyone just repeats the same shite over and over again. Blake Ahearn would have been a good Billiken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Blake Ahearn would have been a good Billiken. Only if SLU was in the MVC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Blake Ahearn would have been a good Billiken. And Josh Harrellson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I hate when we force a kid who sucks to transfer for his own good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Pine Jim Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I wish Cincy were back on our schedule. Another villain we can relate to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I hate when we force a kid who sucks to transfer for his own good i hate it when we recruit a kid that sucks and we promise to make them better as a student, person and player when we apparently only care about them as a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I am not saying this is even being thought about at this point by the BE7, but I am starting to think bigger is actually better even if it dilutes NCAA shares initially. I think they almost have to go coast to coast for long term survival. Numbers and size of footprint will matter. You are going to need to need to set up your own cable network to compete and give as many people as possible a reason to want it on their system. You are going to need as much clout as possible both in the NCAA and in the political arena. To have a say when you end up with 64 teams in four mega conferences you need to be more than an east coast centric league made up of smaller schools. If you want to be conference of similar schools you better have a bigger footprint and more members. I think they have to go to 18 or 21, with three divisions (one out west), and you have to think about bringing in BYU. With a western division (with 18 or 21 teams total) you could have a cable channel prime time line-up most nights during basketball season of games starting at 6 CST, 8 CST, and 10 CST. You become the channel for college hoop junkies. More people across the country have a reason to care about your league and what is happening with teams far away from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusakAttack Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 -Box nails it once again!!!!!!!!!!at least he's nailing something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 at least he's nailing something... shoot box has no issues. he is constantly confused with matthew mcwhatever. below is a picture of box on a recent trip to cancun. he had to spend most of the trip in his condo as the cougars wouldnt leave him alone. i feel sorry for box. i never have that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I am not saying this is even being thought about at this point by the BE7, but I am starting to think bigger is actually better even if it dilutes NCAA shares initially. I think they almost have to go coast to coast for long term survival. Numbers and size of footprint will matter. You are going to need to need to set up your own cable network to compete and give as many people as possible a reason to want it on their system. You are going to need as much clout as possible both in the NCAA and in the political arena. To have a say when you end up with 64 teams in four mega conferences you need to be more than an east coast centric league made up of smaller schools. If you want to be conference of similar schools you better have a bigger footprint and more members. I think they have to go to 18 or 21, with three divisions (one out west), and you have to think about bringing in BYU. With a western division (with 18 or 21 teams total) you could have a cable channel prime time line-up most nights during basketball season of games starting at 6 CST, 8 CST, and 10 CST. You become the channel for college hoop junkies. More people across the country have a reason to care about your league and what is happening with teams far away from them -very interesting take, imo, I could see that working and for other sports you could reduce what travel would be by only playing teams in your division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I am not saying this is even being thought about at this point by the BE7, but I am starting to think bigger is actually better even if it dilutes NCAA shares initially. I think they almost have to go coast to coast for long term survival. Numbers and size of footprint will matter. You are going to need to need to set up your own cable network to compete and give as many people as possible a reason to want it on their system. You are going to need as much clout as possible both in the NCAA and in the political arena. To have a say when you end up with 64 teams in four mega conferences you need to be more than an east coast centric league made up of smaller schools. If you want to be conference of similar schools you better have a bigger footprint and more members. I think they have to go to 18 or 21, with three divisions (one out west), and you have to think about bringing in BYU. With a western division (with 18 or 21 teams total) you could have a cable channel prime time line-up most nights during basketball season of games starting at 6 CST, 8 CST, and 10 CST. You become the channel for college hoop junkies. More people across the country have a reason to care about your league and what is happening with teams far away from them I like that take, I'm just not sure the BE7 have the forward looking thought process to make that happen. The majority of the rumors we've seen have focused on "smaller is better" suggesting they want to be the "Mountain West of the East." By the way, the MWC is expected to have the 3rd best conference RPI at the end of this season, but nobody talks about them because they are out west and are only 9 schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I like that take, I'm just not sure the BE7 have the forward looking thought process to make that happen. The majority of the rumors we've seen have focused on "smaller is better" suggesting they want to be the "Mountain West of the East." By the way, the MWC is expected to have the 3rd best conference RPI at the end of this season, but nobody talks about them because they are out west and are only 9 schools. well in all the years watching the rpi, there is no doubt that the mountain west conference benefits greatly from being smaller and not having the tag along fordham like program(s) to bring down the rest of the conference. that said, the fact that a huge top heavy conference (see the big east the last few years) has benefitted from having a large conference even if it has a few bottom feeders that rarely make any ncaa waves. in fact it could be argued the likes of depaul, seton hall and rutgers for example have maintained higher profiles in spite of their performances overall each year soley because they were in the big east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Clearly, our best case scenario is B7 + a few stellar midwest teams like X, Butler, Dayton, Creigton. Now. So we can get TV money and TV exposure and recruit an excellent coach now and some good players who want to play against GT and Nova and X and Creighton and St. Johns, et al. All solid teams with traditon. No Fordam-RI-LaSalle-Duq-St. Bonnie-Charlotte. If not, the A-10 plan earlier cited and all of the other "if we do not get in" scenarios would take a long time and would probably be a clusterschtook. Who knows wtf would happen? What coaches would want to come here for 2013-2014? Hey, just noticed, Duke is # 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 i hate it when we recruit a kid that sucks and we promise to make them better as a student, person and player when we apparently only care about them as a player. I hate when we recruit kids who suck academically AND athletically with little potential or motivation for improvement - I'm talking about you Horace and Obi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo027 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I hate when we recruit kids who suck academically AND athletically with little potential or motivation for improvement - I'm talking about you Horace and Obi. And then our APR is destroyed for years to come. I hate that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusakAttack Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I hate when we recruit kids who suck academically AND athletically with little potential or motivation for improvement - I'm talking about you Horace and Obi.I sure hope Horace and Obi don't log in today...otherwise you are in T-R-O-U-B-L-E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 i hate it when we recruit a kid that sucks and we promise to make them better as a student, person and player when we apparently only care about them as a player. Isn't that why he received a scholarship in the first place? Because of his ability as a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Isn't that why he received a scholarship in the first place? Because of his ability as a player? Nope. Whenever you recruit a player, you're stuck with him as long as he doesn't commit a crime and maintains his grades. He doesn't have to work hard and try to improve, he doesn't have to have any on court success at all ... just don't f..k up and you're good. After all, they are just kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Nope. Whenever you recruit a player, you're stuck with him as long as he doesn't commit a crime and maintains his grades. He doesn't have to work hard and try to improve, he doesn't have to have any on court success at all ... just don't f..k up and you're good. After all, they are just kids. pretty much right. with the exception of the "work hard and improve" stupid comment. the coach makes a committment, and if the student athlete indeed is doing his/her best, being a good student, citizen and good teamate (doing the best he/she can) i believe it is up to the coach who made the decision to bring that student athlete to saint louis university to try to coach that player up. if the coach f'd up and misjudged the talent level, that is on the coach. if the student athlete wants that golden slu academic experience, live up to the promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Can anyone identify this Superfan at the UTM game in Section 108? If so, will he be attending more games in the near future? http://tinypic.com/r/ioqgzd/6 http://tinypic.com/r/igl2sk/6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKHANDtheRICAN Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 pretty much right. with the exception of the "work hard and improve" stupid comment. the coach makes a committment, and if the student athlete indeed is doing his/her best, being a good student, citizen and good teamate (doing the best he/she can) i believe it is up to the coach who made the decision to bring that student athlete to saint louis university to try to coach that player up. if the coach f'd up and misjudged the talent level, that is on the coach. if the student athlete wants that golden slu academic experience, live up to the promise. When we send a scholarship player packing, do we physically rip up the scholarship documentation in front of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 pretty much right. with the exception of the "work hard and improve" stupid comment. the coach makes a committment, and if the student athlete indeed is doing his/her best, being a good student, citizen and good teamate (doing the best he/she can) i believe it is up to the coach who made the decision to bring that student athlete to saint louis university to try to coach that player up. if the coach f'd up and misjudged the talent level, that is on the coach. if the student athlete wants that golden slu academic experience, live up to the promise. I think you are 100% correct there Roy. Now what is this world coming to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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