slufanskip Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 yes haha Official Billikens.com sponsor of H Waldman Official Sponser of the Stemmler and Ahearn could and would have helped club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 What grade school do you go to or do all SWMS students spell "supposed" as "suppose" and "loss" as "lose"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Ok...all of this arguing is dumb. Both teams are even. SLU won based on the refs call even if it was wrong. It counts as a W for them and an L for MSU. However, obviously the selection commitee will look at the score of the game and realize how close it was. I think the MOSt. fans need to get off their high horse b/c SLU is still just as good as them even if the basket really wasn't "good." Fact is both teams played poorly at times and there were numerous bad calls both ways. SLU went up 10 - 2, then disappeared, then went on a late run to make it close again. 2 of their best players missed 2 shots they normally make at the end of the game. Then IV tipped one in. Whether or not it was good is irrelevent now. The teams are evenly matched. That is that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluecrewwebmaster Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 All this arguing is stupid. I still haven't seen anyone produce a video showing the red light and IV's shot at the buzzer. The only video evidence is the mediacom (SMS) broadcast. IV clearly tipped it in time on that video. IT'S GOOD. Show me video evidence contrary to this, I'll reconsider but to go on arguing about a PHANTOM VIDEO seen by a handful of people is retarded. If getting into the Dance comes down to a one-point win at home against SMS, then something goes REALLY wrong in conf play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidKing Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I don't know if they are retarded, but I think that a lot of the SWMoSt. fans are just resentful because there college admissions applications to SLU got rejected, and they had to settle on attending SWMoSt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 From the sound of some of the posts on this thread, it looks like some people are really losing sleep over it. First of all, MO State isn't going to be kept out of the Big Dance because of this loss. They have the rest of the season, to take out this "unfair" loss on their opponents. What great fuel to win some more games. MO State has some good wins before SLU and will continue to win and I hope they do. I can't believe this loss in causing this much pain to some. Is it insecurity? Are you paranoid now after being shafted last year from the tournament? I'm not being a smart as#, I truly want to know. Also, if the NCAA is going to watch a tape from the game, they can't fairly watch one tenth of a second of a game and then determine if the win was legit or not. If they are going to do that, they should watch the entire game again and some of the bad calls the refs made throughout the game need to be reanalyzed. If they do that maybe Mo State wins the game maybe Mo state loses by 10. If there's hanging chad and you're going to do a recount, you can just pick the last 10 votes to recount you need to recount all the ballots, and that's not going to happen. Send the tape to the NCAA. They will think the same thing. Mo State keeps playing well they will earn the tourney. Slu keeps playing well they will earn the tourney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 From above blog post: http://www.springfieldnews-leader.com/apps...GS0701/61220020 “Nothing can be done relating to outcome of game,†Missouri Valley Conference commissioner Doug Elgin said. “The officials made the right call based on the information they had.†Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 SLU wins. Game over. Case closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltiedave Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Both coaches thought it didn't count. The SLU announcers thought it didn't count. I knew it didn't count. It was a bang-bang play, and the refs correctly reviewed it with the video they had on hand, a video provided by the broadcast crew. The broadcast clearly showed 0.1 second on the clock, so the tip counted. The clock was not synched with the official game clock, but the video was the ONLY one provided by the Springfield station. Sometimes honest errors are made, and this is one. BTW, how many times a season are the clocks calibrated and synched in Springfield? Probably zero times, so it would not be unreasonable to expect a similar error to be possible at some time in the future. You just never expect to be in a situation where a tenth of a second matters in a basketball game. It was a game where I could accept a win or a loss. In the end, after six reviews, the lead ref said "It's good, boys," and that is what counts. No conspiracy, no slanted deck, and Hinson noted the tip was good by the telecast video the refs reviewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Band Legend Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I have posted; may this thread rest in peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOStateFan Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Actually, I got accepted to both schools and chose then-SMS. However, I'm currently a graduate student at SLU and both are great schools. This is my favorite argument of people who disagree: "You couldn't get into my school." Yeah, everyone who disagrees with you must be less intelligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 "I was on fire, I was hotter than a pistol" Jason McElwaine If theres no SLU basketball in heaven I'm not going!!!!!! Official Billikens.com Sponsor of Chris Sloan and Billiken Volleyball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOStateFan Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Does it not bother you that you won because the clocks in your own building are not synchronized? Wouldn't you rather win it because your players performed better than ours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! "I was on fire, I was hotter than a pistol" Jason McElwaine If theres no SLU basketball in heaven I'm not going!!!!!! Official Billikens.com Sponsor of Chris Sloan and Billiken Volleyball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOStateFan Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Notice I said "then-SMS." For those of you without a handle on the English language, that means it was named SMS when I chose to go there. I figured people who got into SLU knew how to read. My mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 like i said before maybe the ncaa will have a Mr. Congeniality award! WE WON YOU LOST ITS OVER STOP POSTING ON THIS BOARD ABOUT IT "I was on fire, I was hotter than a pistol" Jason McElwaine If theres no SLU basketball in heaven I'm not going!!!!!! Official Billikens.com Sponsor of Chris Sloan and Billiken Volleyball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willen Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 >Does it not bother you that you won because the clocks in >your own building are not synchronized? Wouldn't you rather >win it because your players performed better than ours? No. Actually, I like it better this way because it bothers you so much. I'm liking it more and more every time you post, in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 >SLU's win over this mid-major must have been important. As if SLU isn't a mid-major? At least Missouri State has been to the post season recently. You couldn't find many >people outside the MVC territory who even know who Missouri >State is. You tell them that we beat Mo. State and they >think we beat Mizzou. If you told someone that St. Louis U. beat Missouri State they'd probably say, "St. Louis U has a basketball program?" Do you think SLU is considered to be a good basketball program outside of I-270? The level of arrogance that some SLU fans have is almost inconceivable. First rate University - second rate fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troutangler Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Because SLU's tape that is being watched is a different camera that shows the clock and red light on the top of the backboard. The clock that the refs saw was on the TV screen, which was not in sync with the red light and the clock on the basket. Watch an NFL game sometime and watch the play clock on TV. It will hit "0" several times during the game and the offense will still get the play off. It is the same thing. The clock in the stadium is the official clock, not what is on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 >I'm sorry but it wouldn't be all that empty....... > >A couple freethrows, a couple less turnovers, and we aren't >looking at a replay of Florida in 2000...... Are you referring to the Butler-Florida game where Mike Miller scored on a finger roll at the buzzer in the 1st round that propelled them to the title game? You didnt think I saw that game did you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 He should bave been complimentary. He should be calling DP daddy after that game. Class is something the posters that have been bitching about not having Ahearn on this team should learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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