almaman Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 what year's Clemons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Hines leading scorer for the win sweet Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 Glad they got the win, great second half by French. Ugly win but don't apologize for Ws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Clemons is a junior. Nice comeback ala Murray State. These guys have weaknesses all over the place but they compete. That French block better be ESPN Top Ten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenbill Posted December 20, 2017 Author Share Posted December 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, almaman said: what year's Clemons? Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Came out and guarded the shooters in the second half. First half Camels hit 7 threes. Second half only 2. One on a missed Johnson assignment. The adjustment was desperately needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 thanks Taj. Well this year has been reality check on our hopes with all the high recruits we've suddenly accumulated. I do think we will be dancing JG/AH era's junior and senior year. Next year should be very competitive but will probably be closer to what I expected this year. No matter what I'm in for following as long as these two are here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBeliever!!! Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, almaman said: what year's Clemons? Grad Transfer??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, billikenbill said: What a block by FRENCH!!!! Rammer and Earl dubbed it "The French Rejection" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 First half was not pretty and we were down at the half, the second half was a lot better and we won. Their little guy #3 could hit a 3 pointer from just about anywhere up to mid court. Amazing guy. Going into the second half of the game I could not believe we could beat them, but we did. The kids put out a very nice second half for us, very physical and not pretty but who cares. A win is a win. Now lets go get SEMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorbill76 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, Billiken Rich said: Rammer and Earl dubbed it "The French Rejection" I still like Hasahn Chop. Politically incorrect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthSide_Billiken Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 You almost get the sense the last several games that the entire team is tentative at the start of the game for fear of getting into early foul trouble. Then, when they realize they have made it through the first 12 or so minutes without foul trouble, the intensity and aggression on D goes to a different level. Imagine if we had the bodies to play with that same reckless abandon for 40 minutes. Also, I can't say enough about the freshmen. It's going to be fun watching them develop. They already provide us with the most consistent effort. #freethe3 #FireFred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 The Boy's' works as goof on famous movie title besides accurately reporting exactly what transpired. Will become a true classic in duo's sayings if we get four years of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Just now, SouthSide_Billiken said: You almost get the sense the last several games that the entire team is tentative at the start of the game. Then, when they realize they have made it through the first 12 or so minutes without foul trouble, the intensity and aggression on D goes to a different level. Imagine if we had the bodies to play with that same reckless abandon for 40 minutes. Also, I can't say enough about the freshmen. It's going to be fun watching them develop. They already provide us with the most consistent effort. #freethe3 #FireFred French and Goodwin are going to make headlines before they are done........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechee89 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 6 hours ago, CBFan said: Hines leading scorer for the win sweet Caroline That, on top of the fact that he only went 3-8 from the field, makes me want to toss my cookies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 It seems to me that when Ford has them play a more aggressive defensive like even a passive press the team plays more assertive and their offense flows much better. I wonder why he does not start the game like that? I agree the foul trouble concern may be part of it but the players have to learn how to play this way without fouling. Of course that also depends if the refs are going to let them play or call a bunch of ticky tack fouls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 SLU is 4-0 in home games that I've skipped this year. Maybe I'm the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBFan Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 2 hours ago, cheeseman said: It seems to me that when Ford has them play a more aggressive defensive like even a passive press the team plays more assertive and their offense flows much better. I wonder why he does not start the game like that? I agree the foul trouble concern may be part of it but the players have to learn how to play this way without fouling. Of course that also depends if the refs are going to let them play or call a bunch of ticky tack fouls. Could it have something to do with fatigue do to the short bench and the amount of minutes these guys have to play? Coach Ford played mostly six players last night. Goodwin is fun to watch playing that defense he creates a lot of havoc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, CBFan said: Could it have something to do with fatigue do to the short bench and the amount of minutes these guys have to play? Coach Ford played mostly six players last night. Goodwin is fun to watch playing that defense he creates a lot of havoc. I don't think so because you have to expend so much more energy to overcome a big lead by your opponent that you may be better off simply not getting into that situation. Expend a little more energy early on so you can conserve later when you have a safe lead. This is why many comebacks fall short because a team simply runs out of gas trying to dig out of the hole. A passive press does not make you play at a frenetic pace. Had the team not been so far behind after the first half you could have played Foreman and Anthony a little longer. Roby was not over taxed either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zink Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 10 hours ago, cheeseman said: I don't think so because you have to expend so much more energy to overcome a big lead by your opponent that you may be better off simply not getting into that situation. Expend a little more energy early on so you can conserve later when you have a safe lead. This is why many comebacks fall short because a team simply runs out of gas trying to dig out of the hole. A passive press does not make you play at a frenetic pace. Had the team not been so far behind after the first half you could have played Foreman and Anthony a little longer. Roby was not over taxed either. Honestly, playing a zone is almost always less taxing than a man-to-man, even if you're pressing/trapping. You spend less time chasing people around, face fewer screens, and are generally able to be less reactive and more proactive in your movement. I would expect us to continue with the variety package of defenses, but hopefully zones make up a larger part of that moving forward, as we really only have three guys who are genuinely good and then two more who are pretty capable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 I am not saying anything about whether we play zones or not. My point was simply that if we are bit more aggressive earlier in the game it may create a better offensive flow which seems to occur when we do it later in the game when we are trying to catch up. You can still use a passive press and then switch to a zone. In fact, Ford has talked about this exact thing in the post game interviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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