BigMouthBilliken Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Stupid. Here's the rule change needed. Call ALL the fouls and palming violations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Stupid. Here's the rule change needed. Call ALL the fouls and palming violations. No, no, no, Roy. Stupid is the fact that NCAA apparently doesn't know what year it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 + eliminate the Euro step! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Lowering the shot clock to 30 seconds did nothing for scoring in the 2014-2015 season.....told ya!!!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 -the timeout aspect I can understand but there are other ways of dealing with the amount of time that timeouts take, the rest do not make me want to attend or watch more college bball -so effectively we will only have 3 timeouts next season?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpencerFilibuster Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Lowering the shot clock to 30 seconds did nothing for scoring in the 2014-2015 season.....told ya!!! At least the changes aren't for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpencerFilibuster Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 Where did that graphic come from? I thought they were announcing proposed rule changes, not actual rule changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Pelican Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 -the timeout aspect I can understand but there are other ways of dealing with the amount of time that timeouts take, the rest do not make me want to attend or watch more college bball -so effectively we will only have 3 timeouts next season?? I'm not sure what time warp the NCAA is using here, but a team has/had/used to have 5 time outs, one of which had to be used in the first half or else was lost. So a team could have as many as 4 to use in the second half. So I'm guessing they'll give a team 4 total next year (or some year, when/if they figure out what year it is.) BTW I don't know how the 30 second time outs work. If they're trying to turn college ball into the NBA they'll soon lose me. 6 fouls? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBand Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 http://collegebasketball.ap.org/article/ncaa-committee-calls-switch-30-second-shot-clock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 + eliminate the Euro step! So you want to change the traveling rule? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gister Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I'm not sure what time warp the NCAA is using here, but a team has/had/used to have 5 time outs, one of which had to be used in the first half or else was lost. So a team could have as many as 4 to use in the second half. So I'm guessing they'll give a team 4 total next year (or some year, when/if they figure out what year it is.) BTW I don't know how the 30 second time outs work. If they're trying to turn college ball into the NBA they'll soon lose me. 6 fouls? That's where I am. As this gets closer and closer to the NBA, I will begin to lose interest. Soon we'll be playing the William Tell overture, or whatever, as our team brings the ball down the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 So you want to change the traveling rule? Lol Then get it out of the rulebook if it's not enforced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Then get it out of the rulebook if it's not enforced But it isn't a travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 A couple of things ..... 1) the women already use the 30 second clock, right? On that level, I see no problem, but 2) this change,while only 5 seconds, will play really well into the hands of a team that presses (read VCU) especially against a team that uses a dedicated offensive scheme (read SLU). A press will force a team to use its 10 full seconds to cross half court. It will then have only 20 seconds to run an offensive set and, if it fails, less time to re-aim and run another. That will lead to some interesting panic at the end of a shorter shot clock. Fans of a certain team (read SLU) better like seeing more 18-foot heaves next year unless the summer does something for them. I can think of a team heaving a lot of 18-footers to beat the shot clock last year (read SLU). Therefore, you are going to need a lot or at least a few guys who can take the ball in their hands with 5 seconds to go and do something (read Jett). This also plays into a certain team with a certain Nova transfer driving uncontrollably into the lane and falling into a rushed turnover (read SLU) just as much if not more than last year. I do not believe this does much for the overall game except make it sloppier. Adding a sixth foul gives those pressing teams (read VCU) more of a chnace to clutch, grab and tussle even more. Wrestlemania comes to Chaifetz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 But it isn't a travel. ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I'm not sure what time warp the NCAA is using here, but a team has/had/used to have 5 time outs, one of which had to be used in the first half or else was lost. So a team could have as many as 4 to use in the second half. So I'm guessing they'll give a team 4 total next year (or some year, when/if they figure out what year it is.) BTW I don't know how the 30 second time outs work. If they're trying to turn college ball into the NBA they'll soon lose me. 6 fouls? Totally agree with this. 6 fouls in 40 minutes basically invites a hackfest. Next thing they'll change the bonus to 20 fouls! I do not find the NBA appealing to watch. I always feel like I am watching a bunch of guys just playing a relaxing pickup game, at least until the playoffs. College ball just seems to have 10x the passion and intensity. It would be interesting to see a poll of college basketball fans to see what they think of the rule changes. Maybe most are in favor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I am defintely in favor of the actual rule changes. 6 foul thing is a test run so I don't know about that one. Though maybe I'm crazy because I think NBA basketball is a much better game to watch then college bball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I'm convinced that if most college basketball fans had an NBA team to root for they'd also be fans of the NBA. But when you don't have anyone to call for you naturally become disinterested and make statements like "I hope college basketball doesn't try to be like the NBA" NBA basketball is really really good if you actually watch it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billboy1 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 NBA=Streetball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I'm convinced that if most college basketball fans had an NBA team to root for they'd also be fans of the NBA. But when you don't have anyone to call for you naturally become disinterested and make statements like "I hope college basketball doesn't try to be like the NBA" NBA basketball is really really good if you actually watch it. I think that is a fair point. People root for terrible teams because they are THEIR team so I can see where having a local team could make the experience different. That said, I traveled to Denver a lot in my previous job and had the opportunity to see the Nuggets and get to know the team. However, I still just didn't see the same intensity and passion that I saw in college ball. Clearly, they are great athletes and incredible basket ball players - no debate, but it just seemed that at least some of the time, the players were just going through the motions. Now, after all that, this will sound hypocritical, but I would still like to see St. Louis get an NBA team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I enjoy the NBA because it's different from college. I enjoy college because it's different from the NBA. Hopefully they don't become too similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I'm convinced that if most college basketball fans had an NBA team to root for they'd also be fans of the NBA. But when you don't have anyone to call for you naturally become disinterested and make statements like "I hope college basketball doesn't try to be like the NBA" NBA basketball is really really good if you actually watch it. The Spurs and Golden State, in particular, play beautiful offensive basketball. The NBA is a copycat league so you're seeing more teams starting to share the basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierPal Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 NCAA Men should go to 10 minute quarters like the women. HS is 4 quarters, NBA is 4 quarters, and FIBA is 4 quarters. Only the WNBA and NCAA men will be playing two halves. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I think that is a fair point. People root for terrible teams because they are THEIR team so I can see where having a local team could make the experience different. That said, I traveled to Denver a lot in my previous job and had the opportunity to see the Nuggets and get to know the team. However, I still just didn't see the same intensity and passion that I saw in college ball. Clearly, they are great athletes and incredible basket ball players - no debate, but it just seemed that at least some of the time, the players were just going through the motions. Now, after all that, this will sound hypocritical, but I would still like to see St. Louis get an NBA team. There's your problem. Watching the Nuggets. But really I would suggest reading zach Lowe on grantland. He really makes you appreciate the small details of NBA basketball that I don't see in college bball. Luckily I'm from an NBA city so I have a team to cheer for. I didn't pay attention to nhl at all until I moved to STL and had a team to cheer for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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