The Wiz Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Valpo ( B ) is a good team . But since we are A rated we should prevail. That is, provided we bring our A game. Valpo is a good 3 point shooting team (top 15% of all teams). But then again the Bills are 7th in the nation in 3pt D so it should be a good matchup.. A win, particularly by more than 4, would help our numbers considerably. Here's what we need to do to win............ Hold Valpo to 14 or less shots from the arc and make 4 or less ...target % around 28% For the Bills ...shoot 37% or better overall and mid 70's from the charity stripe. All these numbers are very doable. So let's do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youjustgotKMed Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Thx for sharing the spread. Go Bills!!! But Here's what we need to do to win.... Score more buckets then the other team!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Actually to be certain, we need more points, more buckets may not guarantee a win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Greatest sports quote I ever heard. Chris Schenkel asking Cleveland Browns QB before a big game against the NY Giants: CS: Frank, what do you think will be the biggest factor in the game? FR: Uh, the score. Ryan went on to get his doctorate in math. Simple answers always seem to be the brightest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorB Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Warning: this is a losable game. Valpo has good seniors and a solid group of freshmen, even without our old pal KC eligible at the moment. The gym is a bandbox (I've been there); and will be absolutely filled to the rafters, with bball-fanatics looking for their own signature win. This is their Wichita State home game, folks. Plus: we're tired, heading into finals week, and results over the past 10 days are mixed at best. Not predicting an upset exactly, just not sure what to expect. Could it be this year's shocker (no pun intended)?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUBillsFan Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 The gym is a bandbox (I've been there); and will be absolutely filled to the rafters, with bball-fanatics looking for their own signature win. I'm not sure about that. The gym is certainly a bandbox, but the game is tomorrow and if you look at the Valpo ticket website there are still plenty of seats available. The mezzanine level is probably less than 20% full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b.hayes Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I'm not sure about that. The gym is certainly a bandbox, but the game is tomorrow and if you look at the Valpo ticket website there are still plenty of seats available. The mezzanine level is probably less than 20% full. I got tickets in the fifth or sixth row behind the SLU bench earlier this week. The arena only seats like 5000-5500 I think, so it shouldn't be crazy hard to fill, but it would require some serious walkup traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Wiz. SLU vs UMass on a neutral floor? At UMass? Chaifetz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I agree this is a game we could lose, but I expect a hard fought game in which we prevail. The concern I have is Lancona's ankle, the refs and potential for early fouls on Evans and Loe. The Wiz's spread seems about right, but may lead to a roller coaster gameday thread with mutiple mini-melt-downs.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbtds Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Warning: this is a losable game. Valpo has good seniors and a solid group of freshmen, even without our old pal KC eligible at the moment. The gym is a bandbox (I've been there); and will be absolutely filled to the rafters, with bball-fanatics looking for their own signature win. This is their Wichita State home game, folks. Plus: we're tired, heading into finals week, and results over the past 10 days are mixed at best. Not predicting an upset exactly, just not sure what to expect. Could it be this year's shocker (no pun intended)?? It won't be full (top section will be half empty). The ticket staff is hoping for a better than usual walk-up crowd but I'm doubting that. I would give SLU a 10 point advantage if the spread was up to me. All you say about Valpo is true but there are some very glaring weaknesses with the big men. They have hands like seals have fins. Both are fairly new to basketball and the offense has been working the ball into them. Unfortunately the big men (Gueye-Senegal and Fernandez-Jamaican) fumble it away about half the time. Against a good defense like SLU that will kill Valpo's offense. I'm hoping the better skilled Americans (Capobianco and Adekoya) post up more. Both are truly skilled around the basket. One thing I guarantee is that the student section behind the basket closest to the visitor bench will be standing, loud, and jumping. They will be up in the Billikens faces all night. It's a huge home court advantage.I don't think it will be enough to sway the outcome. Peters (freshman from Washington, IL-several of his HS teammates lost their homes in the tornado) could go off. Scored 30 points against Evansville. Also Dority, Williams, Coleman or Yeo could go off and have a 20+ point night. Valpo has a ton of options. I just don't feel it will be enough against SLU's extremely tough D. SLU will not get a lot of points under the basket because of the VU big men and will have to make shots against Valpo's continuous zone D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 SLU will not get a lot of points under the basket because of the VU big men and will have to make shots against Valpo's continuous zone D. That will cause Dwight to reprise his New Mexico State performance and then never look back. Thanks, Valpo, for waking up the continuously "angry Dwayne Evans"! All-America, player of the year, and the NBA draft are next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbtds Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 That will cause Dwight to reprise his New Mexico State performance and then never look back. Thanks, Valpo, for waking up the continuously "angry Dwayne Evans"! All-America, player of the year, and the NBA draft are next. Evans won't get those points, at least points under the basket, until both Gueye and Fernandez foul out, which is more than likely to happen. Against Ball State they held Majok to 5 points with Gueye fouling out and Vashil Fernandez getting 4 fouls. Majok scored 15 against Butler in a 1 point loss to the Bulldogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Evans won't get those points, at least points under the basket, until both Gueye and Fernandez foul out, which is more than likely to happen. Against Ball State they held Majok to 5 points with Gueye fouling out and Vashil Fernandez getting 4 fouls. Majok scored 15 against Butler in a 1 point loss to the Bulldogs. You understand you're comparing decent players at mid majors to one of the 50 best players in the whole country right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Evans won't get those points, at least points under the basket, until both Gueye and Fernandez foul out, which is more than likely to happen. Against Ball State they held Majok to 5 points with Gueye fouling out and Vashil Fernandez getting 4 fouls. Majok scored 15 against Butler in a 1 point loss to the Bulldogs. Evans is a much better scorer than Majok Majok (a throwback name of someone SLU recruited). Also, I doubt Evans will be guarded by Gueye or Fernandez, which is who most likely guarded Majok. Finally, Loe will be in the game which will draw one of those two away from the basket. Your comparison doesn't hold much of any weight, in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 All I heard was "continuous zone" and got a little nervous. If a team plays man-to-man, then DE will punish them. If a team plays zone, they can crash 2-3 guys down on DE. It's exactly what WSU did in the last 5 or so minutes. Valpo is no WSU, but I bet the zone keeps this game really close. Uncomfortably close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I don't think continuous zone will cause the Bills to lose at Valpo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 This game scares the crap out of me. We have to shoot em' out of the zone. A nice win on the road will get this team back on track and save this board from global meltdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 This game scares the crap out of me. We have to shoot em' out of the zone. A nice win on the road will get this team back on track and save this board from global meltdown. Shooting perimeter jumpers isn't the only way to score against a zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbtds Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 From the NWI Times of Munster, IN: http://www.nwitimes.com/sports/basketball/college/familiar-foe-coming-to-the-arc-in-st-louis/article_32d1251c-355e-5053-994b-2f644beea1fa.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMouthBilliken Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 A close friend of mine is an insider and told me the latest information "Keith Carter will be allowed to play before his December 21st eligibility date...Jared Drew likely to be 6th man off the bench" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 A close friend of mine is an insider and told me the latest information "Keith Carter will be allowed to play before his December 21st eligibility date...Jared Drew likely to be 6th man off the bench" Nuh-uh! BMB, something tells me your so-called insider friend is just a MBM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbtds Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 I was hearing rumors that asst Coach Roger Powell has come through and drove to Indy with the legal documents that will allow Keith Carter to play tomorrow night (Sat). There should be a ruling by Saturday afternoon. It's some kind of hardship case about Keith's injury and the way he was treated. I imagine a legal man from the NCAA talked to the SLU coaching staff tonight in Valpo. If you believe that....................I know of a Nigerian prince who says he discovered $600,000 in blood diamonds that is owed to an American without heirs. If you send him $2,000 for his costs he will send you the $600,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Thx for sharing the spread. Go Bills!!! But Here's what we need to do to win.... Score more buckets then the other team!!!! Uncle Drew agrees! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Greatest sports quote I ever heard. Chris Schenkel asking Cleveland Browns QB before a big game against the NY Giants: CS: Frank, what do you think will be the biggest factor in the game? FR: Uh, the score. Ryan went on to get his doctorate in math. Simple answers always seem to be the brightest. I love this. So true, but so many try to slice and dice into other things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Anyone want to get a car a go up there tomorrow? I'm tempted to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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