kshoe Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Why do you keep saying they haven't hired a commissioner yet? They didn't have one when they brought in X, Butler, and Creighton. Just saying... I still hold to the hope that it is announced in the next 2 weeks; would be huge. Because: 1) it's a fact 2) a new commish will likely precede and be involved in any expansion 3) it's emblematic of some of the issues the league is having getting going. Read holylandofhoops.com someday and you'll see that the league doesn't exactly have its stuff together right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Because: 1) it's a fact 2) a new commish will likely precede and be involved in any expansion 3) it's emblematic of some of the issues the league is having getting going. Read holylandofhoops.com someday and you'll see that the league doesn't exactly have its stuff together right now. What you say is true, sure, but they got 3 excellent teams under the same circumstances. Not much is going to change with SLU, et al, nothing left to study (market size, arena, tradition, etc.), they may have decided 3 for 2013, then announce the 2 for 2014 later, it would have been too logistically difficult to do all 5 at once with scheduling, etc, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 at this time, i have no hope of saint louis becoming a member of the big east in the near future. biondi failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 at this time i put $20 on SLU to 'Wynn' the national championship. 60-1 odds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted June 18, 2013 Author Share Posted June 18, 2013 at this time i put $20 on SLU to 'Wynn' the national championship. 60-1 odds I'd love to see the odds on some of the buy teams. So 1200 bucks will be coming your way in April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextYearBill Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I think VCU was like 75-1. we had best odds in a-10. buy teams were packaged in "the field" bet for like 175-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 at this time, i have no hope of saint louis becoming a member of the big east in the near future. biondi failed. I won't say I have no hope, I still think eventually we join because we have to do something..the A10 is not a long term solution anymore. I do agree that Biondi failed, and I would lump May into that as well. They had years to prepare for this and they evidently didn't do a very good job. This was a surprise to absolutely no one and we were caught standing on the sidelines fingering ourself while Creighton was jumping in line. I would assume the new president will bring in his own AD if he is sports oriented at all. Maybe the board can rescue this by hiring someone from Georgetown, Creighton, or Marquette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I think VCU was like 75-1. we had best odds in a-10. buy teams were packaged in "the field" bet for like 175-1 Something like this can vary a lot, it depends. Kentucky +400 Kansas +625 Duke +1200 Louisville +1200 North Carolina +1500 Ohio State +1600 Michigan State +1750 Arizona +2000 Florida +2200 Michigan +3000 Syracuse +3000 Oklahoma State +3000 Memphis +4000 Indiana +4500 Colorado +5000 Creighton +5000 Virginia Commonwealth +5000 Wisconsin +5000 Saint Louis +5000 Georgetown +6000 Iowa +6000 Connecticut +6000 Butler +6600 Marquette +7000 Pittsburgh +7000 Gonzaga +7000 UCLA +7500 UNLV +7500 NC State +7500 Villanova +7500 Virginia +7500 New Mexico +8000 Baylor +8000 Tennessee +8000 Wichita State +8000 Missouri +8500 Illinois +8500 St. Johns +9000 Minnesota +10000 Florida State +10000 Kansas State +12500 Oregon +12500 Notre Dame +12500 Texas +12500 Alabama +12500 Arizona State +12500 Arkansas +12500 BYU +12500 Cincinnati +12500 Miami FL +12500 Mississippi +12500 Purdue +12500 San Diego State +12500 Stanford +12500 Vanderbilt +12500 Iowa State +15000 Boise State +15000 West Virginia +16500 California +16500 Florida Gulf Coast +17500 Texas A&M +20000 Washington State +20000 USC +20000 Saint Mary's +22500 La Salle +25000 Virginia Tech +25000 Dayton +25000 Oklahoma +25000 Temple +25000 Washington +25000 Xavier +25000 Davidson +25000 Harvard +25000 LSU +25000 Maryland +25000 Colorado State +25000 Georgia +30000 Georgia Tech +30000 Wake Forest +30000 Northern Iowa +32500 Providence +32500 South Carolina +35000 Clemson +37500 Belmont +40000 Evansville +40000 Middle Tennessee State +40000 Richmond +40000 Southern Miss +40000 Saint Joseph's +42500 Akron +50000 Boston College +50000 Central Florida +50000 Charlotte +60000 East Carolina +60000 Fresno State +60000 George Mason +60000 Northwestern +60000 Ohio +60000 Rhode Island +60000 Massachusetts +60000 UTEP +60000 Wisconsin Green Bay +60000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 @NextYearBill ---- please explain your obvious use of the term "Wynn." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo027 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Butler at 66 to 1, to win the entire tournament? For this coming season? They will be lucky to even make the field. Of course the "mid-major" label is a worthless tag made up by the media to degrade the smaller schools. There are no well-informed people who seriously believe Gonzaga, Xavier, Butler, and UNLV aren't major basketball programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 @NextYearBill ---- please explain your obvious use of the term "Wynn." Wynn casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 at this time, i have no hope of saint louis becoming a member of the big east in the near future. biondi failed. I'm not sure I totally agree w/ B'Roy on this. However, I do think if we get in it will be due more to Fox Sports dictating it than anything SLU's done. After Syracuse, ND, and Pitt announced they were ACC bound and the old Beast started adding FB schools from whereever they could find them it should have been obvious to the casual observer the BB only schools weren't happy and would do something on their own. CU getting in ahead of us was a major wake up call. It made no sense. Someone at SLU dropped the ball, or didn't even know there was a ball to drop. If we don't get in we should all be very wary of our BB future. The A-10 is not the answer because it's not hard to imagine UMass, VCU, and Richmond leaving down the road. It then truly becomes a one bid league and we have no Mid West Rivals. The best option we'll have is the Horizon or the MVC. Neither of which appears all that attractive at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbtds Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Maybe the last place schools in the Big Six should be called the Major Fakers or something like that. Northwestern, DePaul, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF1 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The term will be irrelevant to SLU if we join the Beast. Been awfully quiet on that front, by the way. The new Catholic Big East is also being called mid-major by sports media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I'm sure Georgetown, Villanova, and Xavier love that. It just demonstrates how flawed and outdated the term is. Anyone worth a damn has evolved past using it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The new Catholic Big East is also being called mid-major by sports media. What does that make the A10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo027 Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I'm sure Georgetown, Villanova, and Xavier love that. It just demonstrates how flawed and outdated the term is. Anyone worth a damn has evolved past using it at all. Yep. Anyone who uses that term to describe the NBE, or uses it at all IMO, has an agenda and should be ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgeldmacher Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 What does that make the A10? On that note, it was interesting looking at the final rankings from last year. We were 16. The only new BE team ahead of us was Marquette who was 11. Behind us, but still in the top 25 were Georgetown and Creighton (new BE) and VCU and LaSalle (A-10). Each league had three teams finish in the top 25 and all six were from 11 to 25. I'm not arguing that the bottom of the A-10 is as good as the bottom of the new BE, but the top of each sure finished rather evenly last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 On that note, it was interesting looking at the final rankings from last year. We were 16. The only new BE team ahead of us was Marquette who was 11. Behind us, but still in the top 25 were Georgetown and Creighton (new BE) and VCU and LaSalle (A-10). Each league had three teams finish in the top 25 and all six were from 11 to 25. I'm not arguing that the bottom of the A-10 is as good as the bottom of the new BE, but the top of each sure finished rather evenly last year. Outside of Fordham and RI, is it really much worse? DePaul is as bad as those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Fordham and RI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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