GW Thoughts on SLU

[moytoy12]

Not a bad overview, but some disagreeable things.

OVERVIEW:

SLU has the youngest team in the country with 11 underclassmen on the roster but they do not always play like it. As young as they are, the Billikens do two things which are not characteristics of a team without an active upper-classman on it: (1) play defense; (2) do not turn the ball over. They are tremendous at home and have shown recent signs of being competitive on the road. Their areas of weakness (rebounding, free throw shooting) can be overcome by practice and/or sheer will. There is lots of talent and an obviously strong coach at the helm, but experience doesn’t happen over-night.

OFFENSE: Edge: Even

The Billikens are a methodical, probing team, loathe to settle for quick shots. They try to run the shot-clock down and get the ball into the hands of Mitchell for an open look or to a forward at mid-range for a high percentage shot. They have an ineffectual transition game and do become obsessed with the ‘3, sometimes to their detriment. Of particular note is their lack of second chance points and very poor free-throw shooting. They are not a pretty offensive team and do just enough to get the points they need.

GAMEPLAN:

Bottle-up and frustrate Mitchell while forcing the forwards out of the lane and into jump-shots.

DEFENSE: Edge: SLU

St. Louis is second in the conference in scoring defense and field-goal percentage defense, great shot blockers and completely lock-down the perimeter. They have a myriad of changing zones and enough team speed to cover the court and close-out on shooters. They are not a physical team and can get caught leaning too heavily on their athleticism.

GAMEPLAN:

Quick ball movement with probes into the lane and hope there are enough shot attempts from 15-feet and in to get the job done…..crashing the offensive glass with reckless abandon isn’t a bad idea either.

REBOUNDING: Edge: GW

SLU sports a roster with a bunch of young forwards who do not have the benefit of a year’s worth of collegiate weight-training. They get pushed all around the lane with Reed being the only consistent rebounder night-in-and-night-out. Ellis can also be a much-needed physical presence, but he’s still getting back into condition and can drift too far from the hoop on the offensive end. They rarely get put-backs as offensive rebounds are few and far between.

FRONTCOURT: Edge: Even

Reed is a rugged player who always sports the opportunity for a double-double, but his 12ppg would be a lot higher if he could convert free-throws. Conklin is a role player who can get into foul trouble and drifts in and out of the offensive flow. Remekun is a painfully thin, largely forgettable foul-machine who can’t shoot a lick, but can block shots. The entire front-line cannot hit free-throws at all.

BACKCOURT: Edge: Even

Mitchell is SLU’s only reliable scorer night-in-and-night-out. He is extremely fast off the dribble and has a knack for getting off shots in tight spaces. He can shoot the ‘3 and when he’s on from outside will fill-up the boxscore. Mitchell is also the Billikens best passer and on the ball defender. Salecich is an outside shooter who shouldn’t. Cassity is a good passer and overly-eager outside shooter who shuns physical contact and attacking the hoop.

BENCH: Edge: GW

Ellis brings a European-style game to the table with the ability to play both inside and out, however he rarely passes and lacks foot-speed. Jordan is a very good outside shooter who cannot create his own shot and, due to his size, is a weak defender. Smith is very athletic, can block shots, but has an undefined role on the court which causes him to lose focus. Femi is a warm-body for the back-court who is just as apt to be forgotten as he is to turn the ball over. The Billikens lack depth at the ball-handling position.

PREDICTION:

The International Criminal Police Organization - INTERPOL - has expressed its concern about this game to all of its member national police forces. (Resolution adopted at INTERPOL, General Assembly, Stockholm, Sweden, September 8, 1977.) GW by 1.

[NH]

Not a bad overview, but some disagreeable things.

OVERVIEW:

SLU has the youngest team in the country with 11 underclassmen on the roster but they do not always play like it. As young as they are, the Billikens do two things which are not characteristics of a team without an active upper-classman on it: (1) play defense; (2) do not turn the ball over. They are tremendous at home and have shown recent signs of being competitive on the road. Their areas of weakness (rebounding, free throw shooting) can be overcome by practice and/or sheer will. There is lots of talent and an obviously strong coach at the helm, but experience doesn’t happen over-night.

OFFENSE: Edge: Even

The Billikens are a methodical, probing team, loathe to settle for quick shots. They try to run the shot-clock down and get the ball into the hands of Mitchell for an open look or to a forward at mid-range for a high percentage shot. They have an ineffectual transition game and do become obsessed with the ‘3, sometimes to their detriment. Of particular note is their lack of second chance points and very poor free-throw shooting. They are not a pretty offensive team and do just enough to get the points they need.

GAMEPLAN:

Bottle-up and frustrate Mitchell while forcing the forwards out of the lane and into jump-shots.

DEFENSE: Edge: SLU

St. Louis is second in the conference in scoring defense and field-goal percentage defense, great shot blockers and completely lock-down the perimeter. They have a myriad of changing zones and enough team speed to cover the court and close-out on shooters. They are not a physical team and can get caught leaning too heavily on their athleticism.

GAMEPLAN:

Quick ball movement with probes into the lane and hope there are enough shot attempts from 15-feet and in to get the job done…..crashing the offensive glass with reckless abandon isn’t a bad idea either.

REBOUNDING: Edge: GW

SLU sports a roster with a bunch of young forwards who do not have the benefit of a year’s worth of collegiate weight-training. They get pushed all around the lane with Reed being the only consistent rebounder night-in-and-night-out. Ellis can also be a much-needed physical presence, but he’s still getting back into condition and can drift too far from the hoop on the offensive end. They rarely get put-backs as offensive rebounds are few and far between.

FRONTCOURT: Edge: Even

Reed is a rugged player who always sports the opportunity for a double-double, but his 12ppg would be a lot higher if he could convert free-throws. Conklin is a role player who can get into foul trouble and drifts in and out of the offensive flow. Remekun is a painfully thin, largely forgettable foul-machine who can’t shoot a lick, but can block shots. The entire front-line cannot hit free-throws at all.

BACKCOURT: Edge: Even

Mitchell is SLU’s only reliable scorer night-in-and-night-out. He is extremely fast off the dribble and has a knack for getting off shots in tight spaces. He can shoot the ‘3 and when he’s on from outside will fill-up the boxscore. Mitchell is also the Billikens best passer and on the ball defender. Salecich is an outside shooter who shouldn’t. Cassity is a good passer and overly-eager outside shooter who shuns physical contact and attacking the hoop.

BENCH: Edge: GW

Ellis brings a European-style game to the table with the ability to play both inside and out, however he rarely passes and lacks foot-speed. Jordan is a very good outside shooter who cannot create his own shot and, due to his size, is a weak defender. Smith is very athletic, can block shots, but has an undefined role on the court which causes him to lose focus. Femi is a warm-body for the back-court who is just as apt to be forgotten as he is to turn the ball over. The Billikens lack depth at the ball-handling position.

PREDICTION:

The International Criminal Police Organization - INTERPOL - has expressed its concern about this game to all of its member national police forces. (Resolution adopted at INTERPOL, General Assembly, Stockholm, Sweden, September 8, 1977.) GW by 1.

very thorough, but also rather inaccurate in a lot of ways.

[bsheldon]

nh,

In what ways is it innacuarate--besides the prediction of GW by one? SLU will win this one by 8 pts.

It seemed rather spot on--it left a few things out like the fact that CE can hit a 3 with the best of them. Perhaps they haven't seen KC in the last few games drive to the hoop--but still it's point is valid. And CR dies have a nice little 10-15ft jumper, but it isn't like he gets 5 of those a game.

[Majerus Magic]

Not a bad overview, but some disagreeable things.

OVERVIEW:

SLU has the youngest team in the country with 11 underclassmen on the roster but they do not always play like it. As young as they are, the Billikens do two things which are not characteristics of a team without an active upper-classman on it: (1) play defense; (2) do not turn the ball over. They are tremendous at home and have shown recent signs of being competitive on the road. Their areas of weakness (rebounding, free throw shooting) can be overcome by practice and/or sheer will. There is lots of talent and an obviously strong coach at the helm, but experience doesn’t happen over-night.

OFFENSE: Edge: Even

The Billikens are a methodical, probing team, loathe to settle for quick shots. They try to run the shot-clock down and get the ball into the hands of Mitchell for an open look or to a forward at mid-range for a high percentage shot. They have an ineffectual transition game and do become obsessed with the ‘3, sometimes to their detriment. Of particular note is their lack of second chance points and very poor free-throw shooting. They are not a pretty offensive team and do just enough to get the points they need.

GAMEPLAN:

Bottle-up and frustrate Mitchell while forcing the forwards out of the lane and into jump-shots.

DEFENSE: Edge: SLU

St. Louis is second in the conference in scoring defense and field-goal percentage defense, great shot blockers and completely lock-down the perimeter. They have a myriad of changing zones and enough team speed to cover the court and close-out on shooters. They are not a physical team and can get caught leaning too heavily on their athleticism.

GAMEPLAN:

Quick ball movement with probes into the lane and hope there are enough shot attempts from 15-feet and in to get the job done…..crashing the offensive glass with reckless abandon isn’t a bad idea either.

REBOUNDING: Edge: GW

SLU sports a roster with a bunch of young forwards who do not have the benefit of a year’s worth of collegiate weight-training. They get pushed all around the lane with Reed being the only consistent rebounder night-in-and-night-out. Ellis can also be a much-needed physical presence, but he’s still getting back into condition and can drift too far from the hoop on the offensive end. They rarely get put-backs as offensive rebounds are few and far between.

FRONTCOURT: Edge: Even

Reed is a rugged player who always sports the opportunity for a double-double, but his 12ppg would be a lot higher if he could convert free-throws. Conklin is a role player who can get into foul trouble and drifts in and out of the offensive flow. Remekun is a painfully thin, largely forgettable foul-machine who can’t shoot a lick, but can block shots. The entire front-line cannot hit free-throws at all.

BACKCOURT: Edge: Even

Mitchell is SLU’s only reliable scorer night-in-and-night-out. He is extremely fast off the dribble and has a knack for getting off shots in tight spaces. He can shoot the ‘3 and when he’s on from outside will fill-up the boxscore. Mitchell is also the Billikens best passer and on the ball defender. Salecich is an outside shooter who shouldn’t. Cassity is a good passer and overly-eager outside shooter who shuns physical contact and attacking the hoop.

BENCH: Edge: GW

Ellis brings a European-style game to the table with the ability to play both inside and out, however he rarely passes and lacks foot-speed. Jordan is a very good outside shooter who cannot create his own shot and, due to his size, is a weak defender. Smith is very athletic, can block shots, but has an undefined role on the court which causes him to lose focus. Femi is a warm-body for the back-court who is just as apt to be forgotten as he is to turn the ball over. The Billikens lack depth at the ball-handling position.

PREDICTION:

The International Criminal Police Organization - INTERPOL - has expressed its concern about this game to all of its member national police forces. (Resolution adopted at INTERPOL, General Assembly, Stockholm, Sweden, September 8, 1977.) GW by 1.

off the top of my head those are inaccurate statements

[jjray]

If their game plan is to force our forwards to hit open jumpers, then Ellis is going to have a huge game. The preview is accurate BEFORE we got Ellis. Just a different team now. It also makes our bench stronger with Conk coming off the bench instead of starting. The emergence of Smith is another factor. I wouldn't be surprised to see J. Smith start to improve our rebounding. With Willie, Cody, and J. Smith on the floor, we are a good rebounding team.

[GOSLU68]

off the top of my head those are inaccurate statements

must be an old write up as we doubt Femi John would dress for the game unless he has recovered

[Cowboy]

nh,

In what ways is it innacuarate--besides the prediction of GW by one? SLU will win this one by 8 pts.

It seemed rather spot on--it left a few things out like the fact that CE can hit a 3 with the best of them. Perhaps they haven't seen KC in the last few games drive to the hoop--but still it's point is valid. And CR dies have a nice little 10-15ft jumper, but it isn't like he gets 5 of those a game.

-a good synopsis, not WH good, however, but here is what i found innaccurate....

-is willie really "rugged"? i would not say so - also his rebounding has not been consistent

-do we run down the shot clock? maybe compared to some but certainly not our historic norm, imo

-changing zones? not much

-CE rarely passes? i disagree

-JJ can and does create his own shot as he has many of his buckets on drives to the basket

[bauman]

must be an old write up as we doubt Femi John would dress for the game unless he has recovered

Bills 75-GWU 64

KM-19

CE-15

WR-11

JS-6

KC-8

BC-6

CS/JJ/CR-10

[slufanskip]

Not a bad overview, but some disagreeable things.

OVERVIEW:

SLU has the youngest team in the country with 11 underclassmen on the roster but they do not always play like it. As young as they are, the Billikens do two things which are not characteristics of a team without an active upper-classman on it: (1) play defense; (2) do not turn the ball over. They are tremendous at home and have shown recent signs of being competitive on the road. Their areas of weakness (rebounding, free throw shooting) can be overcome by practice and/or sheer will. There is lots of talent and an obviously strong coach at the helm, but experience doesn’t happen over-night.

OFFENSE: Edge: Even

The Billikens are a methodical, probing team, loathe to settle for quick shots. They try to run the shot-clock down and get the ball into the hands of Mitchell for an open look or to a forward at mid-range for a high percentage shot. They have an ineffectual transition game and do become obsessed with the ‘3, sometimes to their detriment. Of particular note is their lack of second chance points and very poor free-throw shooting. They are not a pretty offensive team and do just enough to get the points they need.

GAMEPLAN:

Bottle-up and frustrate Mitchell while forcing the forwards out of the lane and into jump-shots.

DEFENSE: Edge: SLU

St. Louis is second in the conference in scoring defense and field-goal percentage defense, great shot blockers and completely lock-down the perimeter. They have a myriad of changing zones and enough team speed to cover the court and close-out on shooters. They are not a physical team and can get caught leaning too heavily on their athleticism.

GAMEPLAN:

Quick ball movement with probes into the lane and hope there are enough shot attempts from 15-feet and in to get the job done…..crashing the offensive glass with reckless abandon isn’t a bad idea either.

REBOUNDING: Edge: GW

SLU sports a roster with a bunch of young forwards who do not have the benefit of a year’s worth of collegiate weight-training. They get pushed all around the lane with Reed being the only consistent rebounder night-in-and-night-out. Ellis can also be a much-needed physical presence, but he’s still getting back into condition and can drift too far from the hoop on the offensive end. They rarely get put-backs as offensive rebounds are few and far between.

FRONTCOURT: Edge: Even

Reed is a rugged player who always sports the opportunity for a double-double, but his 12ppg would be a lot higher if he could convert free-throws. Conklin is a role player who can get into foul trouble and drifts in and out of the offensive flow. Remekun is a painfully thin, largely forgettable foul-machine who can’t shoot a lick, but can block shots. The entire front-line cannot hit free-throws at all.

BACKCOURT: Edge: Even

Mitchell is SLU’s only reliable scorer night-in-and-night-out. He is extremely fast off the dribble and has a knack for getting off shots in tight spaces. He can shoot the ‘3 and when he’s on from outside will fill-up the boxscore. Mitchell is also the Billikens best passer and on the ball defender. Salecich is an outside shooter who shouldn’t. Cassity is a good passer and overly-eager outside shooter who shuns physical contact and attacking the hoop.

BENCH: Edge: GW

Ellis brings a European-style game to the table with the ability to play both inside and out, however he rarely passes and lacks foot-speed. Jordan is a very good outside shooter who cannot create his own shot and, due to his size, is a weak defender. Smith is very athletic, can block shots, but has an undefined role on the court which causes him to lose focus. Femi is a warm-body for the back-court who is just as apt to be forgotten as he is to turn the ball over. The Billikens lack depth at the ball-handling position.

PREDICTION:

The International Criminal Police Organization - INTERPOL - has expressed its concern about this game to all of its member national police forces. (Resolution adopted at INTERPOL, General Assembly, Stockholm, Sweden, September 8, 1977.) GW by 1.

Wow, where to start.

We don't try to run the clock down and get the ball into the hands of Mitchell.

We have a myriad of changing zones?

Cassity is an over eager outside shooter. I heard RM was trying to get him to cut back to 3 shots a game.

Reed is a rugged player. I heard that the Aussies new nickname for him was Outback due to his extreme ruggedness.

I wouldn't call Cody Ellis a passing machine, but without knowing the offense he's averaging an assist and a half a game which is more than any other front court player on the team. I'm not sure "rarely passes" is accurate

I haven't noticed Jordan having a problem creating his own shot either. The myth that you can't get your shot off if your 5'9" continues.

[Bay Area Billiken]

Wow, where to start.

We don't try to run the clock down and get the ball into the hands of Mitchell.

We have a myriad of changing zones?

Cassity is an over eager outside shooter. I heard RM was trying to get him to cut back to 3 shots a game.

Reed is a rugged player. I heard that the Aussies new nickname for him was Outback due to his extreme ruggedness.

I wouldn't call Cody Ellis a passing machine, but without knowing the offense he's averaging an assist and a half a game which is more than any other front court player on the team. I'm not sure "rarely passes" is accurate

I haven't noticed Jordan having a problem creating his own shot either. The myth that you can't get your shot off if your 5'9" continues.

Here's hoping GW has been preparing for SLU's "myriad of changing zones."

[GOSLU68]

Wow, where to start.

My prediction is Conklin, CS, and JJ all have 10-15 points each and KM and CE lead the way with 17 each

Willie will either be overly agressive and CR will score 10 with 5 rebounds or Willie will show them his

Alley Oop and have another double double. KC will hit 3 treys and have nine in a relatively quiet 30 minutes,

[adramos77]

May I remind all of you, that the last time the Billikens ventured to Foggy Bottom with two players destined for # retiring ceremonies, that we scored

20 POINTS.

In other words, our Foggy Bottoms were whipped pretty good by Gee Dubya.

[Box and Won]

They underestimate one JON SMIF.

[Quality Is Job 1]

I hope the Billikens players see this. There's some bulletin-board material there.

While Steve will probably be wearing GW colors, he'll secretly be rooting for the Bills to win.

[Quality Is Job 1]

May I remind all of you, that the last time the Billikens ventured to Foggy Bottom with two players destined for # retiring ceremonies, that we scored

20 POINTS.

In other words, our Foggy Bottoms were whipped pretty good by Gee Dubya.

Watch Cody Ellis score 20 all by himself tonight.

[willie]

Speaking of justin Jordon and his 5-9 frame did anyone catch Devin Downey of South Carolina last night. Despite being double and triple teamed he put up 30 points angainst Kentucky. I also don't get the talk of John Wall being a top 5 NBA pick. He doesn't shoot it well enough.

[lawyerbilliken07]

Totally agree about John Wall. I think he's a special player for sure. But whether a 6'4" (probably less) shooting guard with a suspect shot is a cant-miss pick in the NBA is a different issue altogether.

[billiken_roy]

Speaking of justin Jordon and his 5-9 frame did anyone catch Devin Downey of South Carolina last night. Despite being double and triple teamed he put up 30 points angainst Kentucky. I also don't get the talk of John Wall being a top 5 NBA pick. He doesn't shoot it well enough.

i'll bet you lunch at hooters willie. i get top 5 pick you get not. i think he is the best college talent in the country.

[willie]

i'll bet you lunch at hooters willie. i get top 5 pick you get not. i think he is the best college talent in the country.

I agree he'll be picked,I just don't think he's worth it. I'd much rather have Cousins. We can still go to Hooters.

[bsheldon]

They underestimate one JON SMIF.

Let's hope everyone does here on out and skywalker smif coninues to get better by the day. I think GW might start to figure it out after his 4th eyelevel visit to the rim dunk.

[Box and Won]

i'll bet you lunch at hooters willie. i get top 5 pick you get not. i think he is the best college talent in the country.

Let's just go back to Hooters anyway. $5 boneless wings + fries on Wednesdays.

[Pistol]

I don't think I've heard anyone question Wall's status as the #1 overall pick. He's easily the best player in college basketball, and better than anyone out there overseas or in high school. The only way he won't be #1 in this draft is if he has a leg amputated before then. And yes, the best player is worth taking first. Roy, this will be the easiest bet of your life. And Willie, what 5 guys are worth taking before him?

[SShoe]

I don't think I've heard anyone question Wall's status as the #1 overall pick. He's easily the best player in college basketball, and better than anyone out there overseas or in high school. The only way he won't be #1 in this draft is if he has a leg amputated before then. And yes, the best player is worth taking first. Roy, this will be the easiest bet of your life. And Willie, what 5 guys are worth taking before him?

I'm not saying I would take five players before him, but I would take Evan Turner over him.

[willie]

I don't think I've heard anyone question Wall's status as the #1 overall pick. He's easily the best player in college basketball, and better than anyone out there overseas or in high school. The only way he won't be #1 in this draft is if he has a leg amputated before then. And yes, the best player is worth taking first. Roy, this will be the easiest bet of your life. And Willie, what 5 guys are worth taking before him?

I haven't really studied the draft and I guess I'm a sucker for size but how about Cousins-Aldridge-Hanongody somebody from Europe and Willie Reed.

[willie]

I haven't really studied the draft and I guess I'm a sucker for size but how about Cousins-Aldridge-Hanongody somebody from Europe and Willie Reed.

The Johnson kid from CUSE and Evan Turner are also pretty good.