thetorch
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Tate in a reduced role is an asset to the program.
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Zyree will score 2000 points in college somewhere.
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41 minutes ago, HoosierPal said:
Why not
There are several reasons.
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4 hours ago, Lord Elrond said:
Question- Pete mentioned on the podcast that he had noticed that the staff under CTF hadn’t done much recruiting activity recently. I would assume that’s about the time that CTF’s assistant coaches came to the conclusion that CTF was a dead man walking, and they needed to start polishing up their resumes. About what time do you think they reached that conclusion? The SIU game? Sometime around then?
Ford's staff quit contacting locals a couple months after Hughes and Thames came on.
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Goodwin's contract with Washington was voided when the Nets released him.
The Grizzlies signed him to a 10 day contract then signed him to a two way contract for the remainder of the season.
Goodwin will be a restricted free agent at the end of the season because he has less than 4 years in the league. Under this scenario the Grizzlies can make him a qualifying offer which Goodwin could accept or give up his rights. If a qualifying offer is made Goodwin can get another offer from another team but the Grizzlies are allowed to match it. If the Grizzlies gave up their rights to Goodwin he would then be an unrestricted free agent.
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The Lakers got more than an extra minute of gameplay in the 3rd quarter allowing them to take a lead.
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For today let's forget our hatred of the Dayton Flyers and their fans and instead mourn the loss of their greatest coach, Don Donoher.
Donoher was a 3 year letter winner for Dayton Basketball in the early 50s. He is the all time winningest Dayton HC with 437 wins. His 67 team lost to UCLA in the National title game. He went to 2 elite eights, 5 Sweet Sixteens, 9 NCAA tournaments & seven trips to the NIT.
His record in the Arch Baron Cup
1-0 as a player.
6-6 as a coach.
Donoher was a mentor to a generation of midwestern coaches and has a prolific coaching tree. He was a mentor and dear friend to Rick Majerus and his advice was instrumental in Coach Majerus coming to Saint Louis.
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1 hour ago, 3star_recruit said:
Our leading scorer this year, a Coach Tate recruit, is in the portal and is receiving high major interest. C'mon now. I know some people need to burn the Coach Ford era to the ground for closure but hiring Coach Tate was probably the best decision of his tenure.
In any case, Coach Schertz has already had success recruiting the Midwest. I have no doubt that he will bring in local players from time to time as he develops relationships in the area.
The guy who the staff wouldn't play the year before?
The guy who was perpetually injured and was only available a handful of games?
Also the guy the staff wasn't going to bring back under any circumstance?
You are the one glossing over details. If Ford was still the coach Parker would be another miss.
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9 hours ago, mrjoelabs said:
Goodwin, Yuri, Hargrove and possibly Perkins never play here without Tate. Not really bench players.
Again those guys were recruited 6-8 years ago.
Ford's staff had zero contact with locals the last 18 months. Can't reward Tate with a staff position when he's been sleeping on job for a year +.
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1 hour ago, mrjoelabs said:
I think not bringing back Corey Tate is going to hurt local recruiting. I was hoping he would be back since he was at the presser but it seems not to be.
Tate has been recruiting bench players for the last 4 years.
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4 hours ago, Slufan10 said:
So if Jimerson breaks the all time scoring record, he’s for sure gotta have his jersey retired, right?
Incorrect. We have only retired Jerseys of players who attain some sort of All America status and/or lead the nation in a major statistical category.
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9 hours ago, willie said:
I think of Bonner as being more of a 4.
True.
Bonner almost never started as the 5, we always had 2-4 other centers on the roster. In crunch time he would play the 5 by default. Usually it would take Grawer about 20 games to figure out the other centers stink and plug in Bonner there for most of the game.
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Just hire Wade and be done with it.
It is good to see these high profile jobs with awful fan bases having trouble finding coaches.
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Cardinals are too cheap to sign any players to NIL deals.
Avila though would be right up their alley. Really appeal to the fanbase.
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I can think of a guy that most people think pretty highly of that was #1 in TOs in the country.
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3 minutes ago, cgeldmacher said:
The single biggest factor in SLU being successful in the new landscape and being able to take advantage of the changes and possibly getting into a better conference as a result is........WINNING. Neither Chris May nor any other AD would be able to get SLU into a better situation if we continued down the road we have the past few years. On the flip side, if Schertz gets us to Dayton level or better of sustained success, it will be that, and not any sort of skills that Chris May has or doesn't have that will get us into that better situation. My point is that hiring the right coach and having the right facilities is what will get us to the next level much more so than any long term strategic plan to make that happen.
The fact thatSLU has to aspire to a Dayton level of sustained excellence should be grounds for termination for Chris May.
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Avila would be the best true big we've had since Ferry and Macauley. He's on that level.
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End of season numbers are very hard to gauge. Teams are tanking, rosters are all upside down. This is the time of year when borderline players put up huge numbers. Got to take advantage if every opportunity but putting up numbers in the last 10 games or so is not an indicator of being resigned by a team or boosting free agency stock.
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We'll have the ISU players we want wrapped up by Saturday. At least 3.
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4 hours ago, ACE said:
You’re the Alex Jones of the board and you got a nice like by your sidekick- who was still peddling the Ahearn fake news a couple days ago
. Sources and credibility don’t matter. Conspiracy theories run wild!
I'm the robin in this equation. Yikes.
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9 hours ago, TheA_Bomb said:
"Good portion". Look at the thread aren't you always the one that wants the proof? Many of us were upset by the hire. We were right, we're still right. Sure there were a few that liked the hire.
But what I'm interested in, is why does it matter now? Even if a "good portion" of the board was excited? That "good portion" was wrong.
But those that weren't enthused, like me gave him a chance. He came in hot on the recruiting. That turned the negative sentiment but in the end it never mattered.
Reading back on few threads there were very few posters who wanted Ford, that was the overriding sentiment.
The same posters who liked him are telling us that everybody liked them. These guys love to rewrite history on the board because they are consistently wrong on almost everything.
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15 hours ago, Lord Elrond said:
Julia Martinez didn’t make it because they allocate slots to teams and only look at points. The two teams that lost in the “Fab 4” each get one, the player who scored the most on each team. Check. Minnesota, as runner up, gets 2. With Maya Braun injured, they went with the two who most scored in their tournament run. That leaves 2 for St Louis. Kyla McMakin gets on the all tournament teams for scoring the second highest amount of points, and Peyton Kennedy, who carried the Billikens for the entire run, gets MVP. Very deserved, I might add. They don’t look at other stats besides points, but they should.
Retire #11. Hang that jersey up and don’t give it out to any future Billiken player. Julia Martinez is in a class all by herself for everything she did.
If anyone deserves recognition it is Jackie Kemph. The line begins after her. Flowers & McMakin as national record holders and all conference selections are right behind her. Kyla's minutes played record may never be broken. Peyton Kennedy, if she comes back, is only 731 points behind the all time record, 21 ppg for 35 games will do it. Martinez was an all time glue player, the best all around player the Billikens have ever had but probably not worthy of jersey retirement. I hope this success spurs on some more recognition for the women in Chaifetz arena though.
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The A10 Tourney title and NCAA tournament appearance were his top accomplishments.
He spearheaded many upgrades to the facilities at Chairfetz.
He brought BCS style expectations to our program that we hadn't had before.
Restarted the program after the Crews debacle.
Brought in some of my favorite players, Goodwin, French, Perkins, Collins, Jimerson.
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11 minutes ago, willie said:
I buy some of this but certainly not all. Whether you like him or not May is not a fool. He knew selling tickets and getting donations was going to be a problem. He weighed buyouts vs ticket revenue and made the obvious decision. Did the board help show the overall sentiment. Sure. But don’t think for a minute that if big and middle level donors weren’t ready for a change it wouldn’t happen. I don’t believe the Ahearn stuff was ever a possibility. It was created by comments from Grawer and Holly and was nothing more. Schertz was the obvious candidate from day one. Besides Conrad I doubt anyone else on the Board of Trustees reads this board and he reads it because he is a huge basketball fan. I know you took issue with Courtsides timeline but I think it was pretty accurate. Ps. 90% of the BOT don’t know we have a basketball team. The group of Fred May Bob O Conrad and Doc made this decision and don’t underestimate May.
We the fans said we wouldn't buy tickets to this garbage.
May fires the coach because fear of revenue loss.
It had nothing to do with the fans though.
Make it make sense please?
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Tate is probably the best type of "this local guy" that we have had. Most of our staffs have had one version or another, an STL connection that everyone in town respects.
What tangible results have we gotten from it? On the whole not much. No 4 or 5 stars are coming here no matter how much everyone local loves our coach. So there is a limit to the love for Coach Tate. In a reduced role we can deal with it, as an Associate HC, probably not getting our ROI in that.