TFord and TRavs Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I don’t know if some of you all know this but the past 2 years Biondi has been given a lot more power and decision making ability for Slu post Clocktower bs for mostly fundraising. Could he have any influence in this decision? The board might have thought that post Kwamain sit1 that SLU had one of the greatest 3 years in program history and it shouldn’t suffer as much in a few years. Just another thought I haven’t seen unless it was buried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, TFord and TRavs said: I don’t know if some of you all know this but the past 2 years Biondi has been given a lot more power and decision making ability for Slu post Clocktower bs for mostly fundraising. Could he have any influence in this decision? The board might have thought that post Kwamain sit1 that SLU had one of the greatest 3 years in program history and it shouldn’t suffer as much in a few years. Just another thought I haven’t seen unless it was buried He’s more of a figurehead than a decision maker at this stage of the game. It’s the Queen/Prime Minister analogy in the UK. The monarchy is pomp and circumstance while the real work of the empire takes place on 10 Downing Street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted January 20, 2018 Author Share Posted January 20, 2018 Yes but many people would take his advice i feel which gives him some power i would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyser soze Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Well then Larry can help solicit donations to pay the 8 figure settlement to 4 young men and their families Pelican likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRN Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, keyser soze said: Well then Larry can help solicit donations to pay the 8 figure settlement to 4 young men and their families Yep. It’s time for him to go to China again to solicit some more donations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARon Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Despite conspiracy theories I doubt the specifics of this were decided by the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I believe it is accepted as truth that the players do not come from wealthy families. Where are they going to get the money to pay for the civil law suits against the University? Who thinks the lawyers in this case have been working pro bono? Who thinks they are certain to collect millions out of the possible law suits, or at least enough money that lawyers would be willing to take the case on commission only? The practice of law is a business in case you have not noticed. The lawyers have been collecting fees for months now, and more to come with the appeals. So, the question is, and has to be, how much is likely to go to the lawyers if they agree to take the players' case to court on commission? In other words what are the possible damages that can be claimed? I really have no idea about the level of damages that can be claimed in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 3 hours ago, TFord and TRavs said: I don’t know if some of you all know this but the past 2 years Biondi has been given a lot more power and decision making ability for Slu post Clocktower bs for mostly fundraising. Could he have any influence in this decision? The board might have thought that post Kwamain sit1 that SLU had one of the greatest 3 years in program history and it shouldn’t suffer as much in a few years. Just another thought I haven’t seen unless it was buried No. Just no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmbilliken Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Old guy said: I believe it is accepted as truth that the players do not come from wealthy families. Where are they going to get the money to pay for the civil law suits against the University? Who thinks the lawyers in this case have been working pro bono? Who thinks they are certain to collect millions out of the possible law suits, or at least enough money that lawyers would be willing to take the case on commission only? The practice of law is a business in case you have not noticed. The lawyers have been collecting fees for months now, and more to come with the appeals. So, the question is, and has to be, how much is likely to go to the lawyers if they agree to take the players' case to court on commission? In other words what are the possible damages that can be claimed? I really have no idea about the level of damages that can be claimed in this case. Attorneys fees can be awarded in civil rights cases. Attorneys also take them on contingency fee contracts. If there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, they won't have a problem finding an attorney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkielBreakers Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 On 1/20/2018 at 4:04 PM, Old guy said: I believe it is accepted as truth that the players do not come from wealthy families. Where are they going to get the money to pay for the civil law suits against the University? Who thinks the lawyers in this case have been working pro bono? Who thinks they are certain to collect millions out of the possible law suits, or at least enough money that lawyers would be willing to take the case on commission only? The practice of law is a business in case you have not noticed. The lawyers have been collecting fees for months now, and more to come with the appeals. So, the question is, and has to be, how much is likely to go to the lawyers if they agree to take the players' case to court on commission? In other words what are the possible damages that can be claimed? I really have no idea about the level of damages that can be claimed in this case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFord and TRavs Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 This is a lawsuit that Slu will have to settle. Slu’s retained lawyers do not want to go against Rosenblum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, TFord and TRavs said: This is a lawsuit that Slu will have to settle. Slu’s retained lawyers do not want to go against Rosenblum That isn’t why they will settle. They will settle because they don’t want SLU’s dirty laundry exposed in the discovery process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, TFord and TRavs said: This is a lawsuit that Slu will have to settle. Slu’s retained lawyers do not want to go against Rosenblum Rosenblum is good but other lawyers do not wet the bed going against him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, kmbilliken said: Attorneys fees can be awarded in civil rights cases. Attorneys also take them on contingency fee contracts. If there is a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, they won't have a problem finding an attorney. That is exactly the problem here, is the pot of gold at the end of the law suit likely to be a rich one or not? I have no idea how these things are estimated by law firms. Do you know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken82 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 57 minutes ago, RiseAndGrind said: Rosenblum is good but other lawyers do not wet the bed going against him He is a criminal defense attorney, and from all accounts, a very good one. That being said, Offense and Defense are completely different ballgames. Enter........Dr Brad Bradshaw (an Attorney and a Doctor) 🙄. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Billiken82 said: He is a criminal defense attorney, and from all accounts, a very good one. That being said, Offense and Defense are completely different ballgames. Enter........Dr Brad Bradshaw (an Attorney and a Doctor) 🙄. Dr Bradshaw is on his way to going national. When I was at Table Rock over the summer there was Dr Bradshaw on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken82 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, brianstl said: Dr Bradshaw is on his way to going national. When I was at Table Rock over the summer there was Dr Bradshaw on TV. The man has his sights on true glory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Yeah I don’t think Rosenblum is going to represent anyone in a lawsuit. If they do sue the school I hope they hire some good lawyers specializing in civil action rather than criminal defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Sorry guys. I just don’t see the liability for SLU. I am thoroughly disgusted, believe the boys have been railroaded, believe SLU does not take athletics seriously and will never be a true Top 50 program or in an elite conference. At the same time, nearly all Title IX people are liberal, biased warriors, believe private schools can make and enforce their own rules and that no judge or jury will or can second guess SLU on it own rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Lax Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Clock_Tower said: Sorry guys. I just don’t see the liability for SLU. I am thoroughly disgusted, believe the boys have been railroaded, believe SLU does not take athletics seriously and will never be a true Top 50 program or in an elite conference. At the same time, nearly all Title IX people are liberal, biased warriors, believe private schools can make and enforce their own rules and that no judge or jury will or can second guess SLU on it own rules. Don’t forget SLU has a history of losing these lawsuits. It will also just look very bad as the lawsuits push details into the public realm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Yes. And if the boys have a parent with cash and is mad as hell (apparently like one of the girls/accusers), then SLU would definitely have alot to lose and worry about. They don't . And SLU does have a alot to lose if a civil lawsuit is allowed to go to trial - and thereby allow discovery to fully take place. At the same time, reread the following from UD_Flyer in the Shocked thread which suggests that getting to trial rather tough against a private university, and therefore there is no "pot of gold" at the end for they accused (and their attorneys taking their case on a contingency basis): "Pierre retained an attorney from a NYC boutique law firm that specializes in these case and lost every time in federal court. Basically, there is legal precedent that essentially allows a private university to establish its own code of conduct policy and as long as the policy is precisely followed the accused has no recourse in the courtroom. Obviously, each case is different, and some Title IX decisions have been ruled unconstitutional, but the decks are stacked against the accused. I believe that Public Universities are required to establish policy that actually provide the accused with some due process. The reason for having Title IX is good, but past guidance given by Civil Rights division of the Dept of Education is over the top. Schools are afraid of retribution for not following this guidance that includes the loss of federal aid / grants and issues with federal student loan programs. And to add further, SLU will no doubt tell the Judge in any players' civil suit that this is last thing SLU wanted, will point out that it lost some of its best men's basketball players and all the lost ticket revenue, tv revenue, NCAA Tourney revenue, hurt next year's recruiting and revenue, may cause it to lose its head coach and that SLU had zero financial incentive for these suspensions but that SLU, nonetheless, did so to follow existing federal law. Now, unless a big money guy steps up for the players/program to fund an attack on the school (I don't see this from Novelly, Dr. C, etc.), then SLU will be found guilty only of implementing and following a left-wing, radical, anti-male policy based upon its own liberal views of political correctness and social justice and in the wake of irrational fear or retribution from the federal government for not following this federal legislation. Again, save me from the good people -- and I only wish that Betsy Devos had come to her position sooner in order to clarify Title IX regulations, to allay the real fears of Universities across this country and to restore balance to yet another radical, left-wing social experiment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Clock_Tower said: Sorry guys. I just don’t see the liability for SLU. I am thoroughly disgusted, believe the boys have been railroaded, believe SLU does not take athletics seriously and will never be a true Top 50 program or in an elite conference. At the same time, nearly all Title IX people are liberal, biased warriors, believe private schools can make and enforce their own rules and that no judge or jury will or can second guess SLU on it own rules. The evidence alone is enough for the guys to win this case. The bias of the hearing officer just makes it that much worse. Lawyers would be lining to take this case on contingency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westy03 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, HenryB said: The evidence alone is enough for the guys to win this case. The bias of the hearing officer just makes it that much worse. Lawyers would be lining to take this case on contingency. As long as the school has followed their policy to a T the players really have no shot at winning. Because the hearing officer went to a women's march and is anti-trump really doesn't mean anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryB Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Westy03 said: As long as the school has followed their policy to a T the players really have no shot at winning. Because the hearing officer went to a women's march and is anti-trump really doesn't mean anything A lot of these cases have been tried and won....you really think the players won’t be suing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 So, no pot of gold, no lawsuit, at least not from the player's side. From the side of the girls there is a possibility of legal action if the parent is still mad as hell and has the money to go for it. We still have the appeals process to go through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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