SluSignGuy Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 SLU Men's Basketball Game Notes & Information Game No. 8 Saint Louis (5-2) vs. Utah State (5-1) Date // Time Tuesday, Nov. 28, 2023 // 7 p.m. Location St. Louis, Mo. (Chaifetz Arena) Tickets Purchase Now Radio KMOX 1120 AM (Bob Ramsey, Earl Austin Jr.) TV Bally Sports Midwest Extra (Scott Warmann, Scott Highmark) Stream ESPN+ | Bally Sports app and BallySports.com Live Stats StatBroadcast Series History Saint Louis leads 1-0 Game Notes Saint Louis | Utah State Quote
gobillsgo Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 Vegas spotting us 5.5 points. Honestly seems low, hope I’m wrong. Quote
billikenbill Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 LHJ is off to a slow start and we need him to get going. He went 1-7 from the floor and the six shots he missed were all poor decisions. His one make came on an impressive follow of his own shot but the first one shouldn’t have been taken. Combined with Medley they were 1-9 from the field and Medley’s 2 three point misses were shots he should’ve passed up. I think Ford’s comments about poor shot selection were addressed to those two, and probably Bruce as well for his ill-advised airball. We’ve got to get LHJ going as he figured to be a key contributor this year but hasn’t put it together yet. One other thing is that Jimerson really played well in spite of the 6-18 from the floor. While his three point shot wasn’t there, he had several great drives, had some bad luck on most of the ones he missed, and earned his trips to the stripe. I was listening to parts of the game and Rammer’s description of events made it sound like he was really off, but watching the replay showed he had an excellent game and my criticism of his play was unfair. Dr Bird 1 Quote
3star_recruit Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 We're going to take our lumps while the youngsters are going through their growing pains. Ideally, you want that process spread out over the course of a season. They need to become sophomores in the next 5 weeks. Otherwise, we're lucky to win 3 games. Quote
HoosierPal Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 46 minutes ago, billikenbill said: LHJ is off to a slow start and we need him to get going. He went 1-7 from the floor and the six shots he missed were all poor decisions. His one make came on an impressive follow of his own shot but the first one shouldn’t have been taken. Combined with Medley they were 1-9 from the field and Medley’s 2 three point misses were shots he should’ve passed up. I think Ford’s comments about poor shot selection were addressed to those two, and probably Bruce as well for his ill-advised airball. We’ve got to get LHJ going as he figured to be a key contributor this year but hasn’t put it together yet. This is true. Young Mr Hughes is hitting a respectable 37.5% from the arc, but his mid range jumper is MIA. He is shooting around 16% inside the arc. That is not sustainable for a starter. His D is solid, rebounding is just okay, but he needs to help out filling the gap left with Parker on the sideline. Quote
JMM28 Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, gobillsgo said: Vegas spotting us 5.5 points. Honestly seems low, hope I’m wrong. Utah State is the @MB73 15 star lock of the decade. Bet the mortgage and the emergency fund. 2010andBeyond and MB73 2 Quote
billikenfan05 Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 Just now, JMM28 said: Utah State is the @MB73 15 star lock of the decade. Bet the mortgage and the emergency fund. Verbal meme: Vegas Doesn’t Know performed by Matt Damon in Eurotrip. Coach314 and JMM28 2 Quote
wgstl Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: This is true. Young Mr Hughes is hitting a respectable 37.5% from the arc, but his mid range jumper is MIA. He is shooting around 16% inside the arc. That is not sustainable for a starter. His D is solid, rebounding is just okay, but he needs to help out filling the gap left with Parker on the sideline. His Mid range not only went MIA, half of the shots were poor decisions. Turn around one leg jumper when you're cold? No.. Quote
SLU_Nick Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 I feel like a great crowd would go a long way tonight. This is a big one. cgeldmacher 1 Quote
gobillsgo Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, SLU_Nick said: I feel like a great crowd would go a long way tonight. This is a big one. I wouldn’t get your hopes up. Not sure what attendance they will announce, but I’m guessing <6500 butts in seats. Average sports fan doesn’t give a damn about Utah State, and there’s less hype around our program than there’s been at any other point in the Ford era. Why would anyone on the fence come out to watch this team right now? gonna be up to us MBMs to get on the refs tonight. TheBand 1 Quote
Westy03 Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, SLU_Nick said: I feel like a great crowd would go a long way tonight. This is a big one. I dont think we have had a crowd over 5k yet this year and I don't see that changing tonight. Quote
slu72 Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 Am I wrong? Hasn’t the student turnout been pretty good? Appears that way on TV. Quote
SLU_Nick Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 Utah St is a real team. From the couch in California, I’m much more interested in this game than I was against Dartmouth or Illinois st. Quote
wgstl Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: I wouldn’t get your hopes up. Not sure what attendance they will announce, but I’m guessing <6500 butts in seats. Average sports fan doesn’t give a damn about Utah State, and there’s less hype around our program than there’s been at any other point in the Ford era. Why would anyone on the fence come out to watch this team right now? gonna be up to us MBMs to get on the refs tonight. Agreed, the average Joe isn't aware Utah st is as good of a program as they really are. Boise st crown last year wasnt what I thought it would be, for the same reason. BUT, perhaps its looked at from the other way, Utah st is likely the "biggest name" that travels here in OOC... Id think its bigger than Ltech and easily Hofstra. Quote
TheA_Bomb Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, gobillsgo said: I wouldn’t get your hopes up. Not sure what attendance they will announce, but I’m guessing <6500 butts in seats. Average sports fan doesn’t give a damn about Utah State, and there’s less hype around our program than there’s been at any other point in the Ford era. Why would anyone on the fence come out to watch this team right now? gonna be up to us MBMs to get on the refs tonight. Agree while a hard core BB fan knows USU is legit the casuals don't know. Quote
wgstl Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 What I want to know does THJ guard Osobor or Agbonkpolo. Quote
HoosierPal Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 35 minutes ago, wgstl said: His Mid range not only went MIA, half of the shots were poor decisions. Turn around one leg jumper when you're cold? No.. Yes. That shot was one of the ones highlighted and labeled a Big No. 3 for 22 inside the painted semi-circle for the year. We all know he will do better. It needs to happen sooner than later. Quote
slufan13 Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 I see this being one of those situations where we win tonight and then follow it up with a 20 point loss at Carbondale on Saturday. Quote
wgstl Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 1 minute ago, slufan13 said: I see this being one of those situations where we win tonight and then follow it up with a 20 point loss at Carbondale on Saturday. I'll take that. Because we're likely losing Saturday regardless. Quote
Slu let the dogs out? Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 2 hours ago, gobillsgo said: Vegas spotting us 5.5 points. Honestly seems low, hope I’m wrong. Load up, boys and girls! Quote
brianstl Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 I can accept getting walloped tonight if the kids actually play. Against Dartmouth Ford went back to his old ways and really shortened the bench. Fifth year players got 69% of the minutes in that game. LHJ got half of the minutes that didn't go to the fifth year players. Can it really be claimed that we are taking our bumps by playing the kids when 84% of the minutes of the minutes available against Dartmouth are going to either fifth year players or a guy that averaged 10 mpg in conference play last season? The underclassmen that have little or no D1 experience in the Dartmouth game only got 4% more of the minutes available against Dartmouth than what Parker and Hughes averaged in conference play last season. Saturday night against Dartmouth wasn't a team struggling because it was playing a bunch of kids adjusting to the college game. It was a veteran team on the court that luckily eked out a win at home against by far the worst team in the Ivy League. billiken_roy 1 Quote
SluSignGuy Posted November 28, 2023 Author Posted November 28, 2023 With attendance, I think tonight is the Schnucks App promotion night, where if you show the Schnucks App on your phone, you get free admission. Quote
Soderball Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 best non-con opponent of the year, free admission. Yikes. JMM28 1 Quote
Soderball Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 30 minutes ago, TheA_Bomb said: Agree while a hard core BB fan knows USU is legit the casuals don't know. USU has been pretty legit for a few years. I think that is generally changing, more people who pay attention to CBB know USU is a program with credibility right now. SLU's low attendance is due to malaise with the program after failing to do anything last year. JMM28 1 Quote
3star_recruit Posted November 28, 2023 Posted November 28, 2023 9 minutes ago, brianstl said: I can accept getting walloped tonight if the kids actually play. Against Dartmouth Ford went back to his old ways and really shortened the bench. Fifth year players got 69% of the minutes in that game. LHJ got half of the minutes that didn't go to the fifth year players. Can it really be claimed that we are taking our bumps by playing the kids when 84% of the minutes of the minutes available against Dartmouth are going to either fifth year players or a guy that averaged 10 mpg in conference play last season? The underclassmen that have little or no D1 experience in the Dartmouth game only got 4% more of the minutes available against Dartmouth than what Parker and Hughes averaged in conference play last season. Saturday night against Dartmouth wasn't a team struggling because it was playing a bunch of kids adjusting to the college game. It was a veteran team on the court that luckily eked out a win at home against by far the worst team in the Ivy League. Thames had 4 fouls in 11 minutes. Hughes was a disaster, shooting 1-7 in 31 minutes. Those are our two best underclassmen. It just wasn't meant to be that night. Hopefully they'll be better tonight. For the other freshmen to get on the floor, Thames and Hughes have to be consistent scorers. Otherwise we'll just score 65 points while our freshmen experience losing game after game. Quote
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