gister Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 DePaul won at Butler in overtime tonight. I wonder where the Wiz has these teams. Xavier also beat Marquette. Not Big East: Portland is leading Gonzaga big on ESPNU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pelican Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Zags about to go down. Some room opening up in the Top 25 this week. We gotta take care of business at Dayton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 DePaul won at Butler in overtime tonight. I wonder where the Wiz has these teams. Xavier also beat Marquette. Not Big East: Portland is leading Gonzaga big on ESPNU. I had X ( A ) by 5 over Marq ( A- ) ...so no surprise there But 2 upsets... I had But ( B+ ) by 10.over DeP ( C+ )....This game was double OT I had Zags ( A+ ) by 10 over Portland ( B- )...Portland home of the St. Louis Pelicans As for top 25....I had said in an earlier thread weeks ago that the Dayton game was where we could break through....A strong possibility on AP ....also a possibility on my rankings...it would have been a yes on my rankings a few days ago but the RI game weakened our numbers.....But the Bills need a win ....so they will definitely have to earn their way on to the list....there will be no backing in. Even if we just fall short, we will be close, so that a win over a lesser team like St. B might be enough to put us over.... Just win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 What the heck happened to Marquette this year? http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=collegebasketballnation&id=92368&src=desktop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 What the heck happened to Marquette this year? http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=collegebasketballnation&id=92368&src=desktop I was at the Xavier-Marquette game last night. With Marquette, the answer is fairly simple: guards. Their guards are young, inconsistent, can be shut down fairly easily, and aren't great defenders. They've had trouble moving the ball around all season, getting it inside to Gardner and Otule. It's interesting to watch. It also forces Gardner to play a very spread-out game (which he likes to do anyway, but spends way too much time 15+ feet away from the basket), and they haven't been able to get some of the young, talented wings involved. It's kind of a mess. They're not usually getting blown out, but they're not nearly as good as they have been, and should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 After last night's home court loss to Georgetown, Butler is 0-4 in Big East games, with 3 of the losses on its home court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappy96 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 After last night's home court loss to Georgetown, Butler is 0-4 in Big East games, with 3 of the losses on its home court. Oh how my heart aches for Butler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yeah, it's breaking my heart. Anyone wondering why Stevens left for the bright lights of Boston? He could see the tsunami coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Oh how my heart aches for Butler. And hopefully Creighton will go down in flames next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Nolan Berry has played less minutes this season than any of our freshman have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_Ken R Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I have noticed that too. Most recently he plays either no minutes or maybe 1. Wonder what is going on there. Maybe he is just not ready for that level yet. Obviously he needs strength. Poor kid may have made a very poor choice as things turned out, but maybe it will get better for him. I wish him the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I have noticed that too. Most recently he plays either no minutes or maybe 1. Wonder what is going on there. Maybe he is just not ready for that level yet. Obviously he needs strength. Poor kid may have made a very poor choice as things turned out, but maybe it will get better for him. I wish him the best. I mentioned Nolan's lack of playing time to a co-worker that attends a lot of DeSmet games. He said he wasn't surprised because in his opinion Nolan just wasn't that good. Nolan was very highly rated his sophomore more year and seemed to drop in the rankings every year after that. I've never seen him play myself but I wonder if my coworker is right and he's just not that great. Butler has a lot of holes on their team and you'd think he's be able to get a few minutes on that squad. No matter what, I wish him the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 And hopefully Creighton will go down in flames next year. Those in glass houses... next year will likely be a quite the wake up call for us too. I've found myself rooting against the Big East all season. Partly out of spite and partly because I believe the next wave of expansion will only occur if they fall back to earth a bit. Now that conference play has started I'm rooting for as few teams as possible to get in the dance. As of right now, they'd get 4 with Villanova and Creighton being locks, Xavier being in good shape and Georgetown probably being in. Nobody else is particularly close. From here on out I guess I'm calling for Villanova and Creighton to run away with it and the rest of the teams to flounder around .500. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Butler wasn't even good in the A-10. We have to take care of our own business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizziken Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yeah, it's breaking my heart. Anyone wondering why Stevens left for the bright lights of Boston? He could see the tsunami coming. I actually don't mind Butler...they are probably my 'favorite' team in the new Big East. To be fair, Butler has played 5 Overtime games already (including 3 in Big East play), going 1-4 in those games. They also lost to Oklahoma State by 2 (after having a chance to win at the FT line). If Rosie Jones were playing this season, these games might've been a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo027 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yeah, it's breaking my heart. Anyone wondering why Stevens left for the bright lights of Boston? He could see the tsunami coming. Getting triple the salary might have played a role in his decision, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Getting triple the salary might have played a role in his decision, too. I don't imagine that hurt anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Those in glass houses... next year will likely be a quite the wake up call for us too. No doubt. I'm prepared for it. That said, I still want Creighton to crash and burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I don't think our crash will be as hard as Creighton's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Those in glass houses... next year will likely be a quite the wake up call for us too. I've found myself rooting against the Big East all season. Partly out of spite and partly because I believe the next wave of expansion will only occur if they fall back to earth a bit. Now that conference play has started I'm rooting for as few teams as possible to get in the dance. As of right now, they'd get 4 with Villanova and Creighton being locks, Xavier being in good shape and Georgetown probably being in. Nobody else is particularly close. From here on out I guess I'm calling for Villanova and Creighton to run away with it and the rest of the teams to flounder around .500. I would add Marquette to the list of Dancers too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Wiz, if u have the time, a comparison of the top Ten A ten teams v beast. Tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukeebill Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I would add Marquette to the list of Dancers too Talk about a team that hasn't beaten anybody....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 What has marquette done to even remotely deserve going to the Dance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I would add Marquette to the list of Dancers too Not a fan of RPI, but their current RPI is below 80 in all the RPI simulations I can find. Pomeroy has them ranked 55. Sagarin predicts them to win 17 games total. Those numbers are not going to get you into the tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 What has marquette done to even remotely deserve going to the Dance? Nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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