Billikenbooster Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 favored by three over us, according to Yahoo! mhg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I had this as a loss in my original prognostication. If you subscribe to the theory that a home court gets you four points no matter what ... something like that I believe is the formula prescribed by Saragrin and others ..... then on a neutral court using simple math, SIU would be favored by seven. But given that SIU went up and lost to powerhouses like Monmouth and D2 Alaska-Anchorage, I am having second thoughts. I don't think the result will surprise either way it goes. The home court advantage might be negated by our youth. Their youth might negate their pervious respect. It appears, according to the PD, that both teams are lacking upperclass leadership at this point ... in other words, no go-to guy. I think this will prove to be a pretty good dogfight and I'm thinking that the home fires might carry the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whatsasaluki Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I think SIU figured out last game who their go-to guy is, he scored 19 points in 3 1/2 minutes, and ended up with 37 in the game. If that ain't a go-to guy, I don't know what is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I think Tatum will find it much more difficult going against either AD or KL. I look for him to be held under 15. Bills to win by 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 or the bills favored by 1. http://covers.usatoday.com/data/odds.aspx If you can find people willing to make markets based on both of these sights then you could lock in a god payday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIUSalukis Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 >I think Tatum will find it much more difficult going against >either AD or KL. I look for him to be held under 15. > >Bills to win by 9. Dreja and Lisch are very good defenders, but Tatum is very good and his 37 points is more of a product of sliding him back to the 2 guard. Freshman PG Bryan Mullins is now starting and has the ability to run the offense well. Mullins and Tatum both have the ability to shut down Lisch offensivly too. I look for Mike Dale to have a suprising game and make some shots. I think this game will end close, too close for me to even pick a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 If this game was in carbondale I'd pick Carbondale to win it. Here it'll be tougher. The Billikens have more weapons than you've ever seen but given that most are freshman and sophs, they aren't terribly reliable. Shaw is the one to watch and/or fulminate about for Billiken fans..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p diddy Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Dale already burned us last year in c-dale. he is good. SIU's weakness through the years has been guarding the low post. their great pressure defense usually negates it, but an excellent low post threat really hurts them. if ian gets the touches he is supposed to, he should have a big game, or at least force the double teams. siu has nobody that can handle him inside. hawaii threw 6'9', 6'9" 6'8" and 7'0" at Ian and he had one of the best games of his career. let the big boy eat tonight. however, if our guards cannot handle the pressure of young and tatum, we are in for a long night, and a long season. bad boyz for life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlecat455 Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I'm not worried about the guards handling the pressure. The question is, will they shoot well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 > Dale already burned us last year in c-dale. he is good. >SIU's weakness through the years has been guarding the low >post. their great pressure defense usually negates it, but >an excellent low post threat really hurts them. if ian gets >the touches he is supposed to, he should have a big game, or >at least force the double teams. siu has nobody that can >handle him inside. hawaii threw 6'9', 6'9" 6'8" and 7'0" at >Ian and he had one of the best games of his career. let the >big boy eat tonight. however, if our guards cannot handle >the pressure of young and tatum, we are in for a long night, >and a long season. This is the type of game where the rubber meets the road. Can we beat a solid guard-oriented team who will not expose our lack of a PF on the floor? Should be interesting. If I'm SIU, I pack my defense in the lane to take away Ian and dare SLU to shoot from the perimeter. We need a much better night shooting from young Mr. Lisch and D. Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 we have ian, they have shaw and falkner. ian will dominate falkner, however, i doubt one of our guards will out play shaw, plus shaw has the athleticism to likely stay up with one of the billiken guards. still an inside advantage overall for our opponent imo. i think whatsasaluki hit the nail on the head. the game tonite is a billiken guard outplaying tatum at both ends. that is my main focus to start with anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIUSalukis Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 >If I'm SIU, I pack my defense in the lane to take away Ian and >dare SLU to shoot from the perimeter. We need a much better >night shooting from young Mr. Lisch and D. Brown. SIU will not be packing any lane. They will play tight man defense all night long, and I expect double teams on Ian when he gets it down low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills16 Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 broy, a report today out of c'dale today on radio sez that foster might might start in place of falker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnark Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 There is no way Shaw has the athleticism to hang with one of our guards. Shaw may be able to use his combination of strength and athleticism to overpower our guards for points in the paint, but Shaw will not be able to guard Liddell or Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillikenBurg Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 drejaj is gonna have him on lockdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikan Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 and our guards do not turn the ball over I would expect Ian to have a big game. If our guards hit open shots we will win by 7-10 points if SIU uses this defensive strategy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 As I said in my 8:00 post, Tatum would be held to under 15 by KL (right) and AD (wrong)-DP played AD's role as primary stopper on the other teams top scorer. Brad commended both DP & KL for their D in his post-game comments. He was also very complimentary to JJ and VN but even more so to IV. Sorry to be so pessimistic only picking us by 9. Let's kick some butt in Wisc. By the way, it's the first time I got to see Shaw play and he's a solid player, but I don't see him as the answer to our prayers for a "4". The Saluki I would have liked to have seen in Billiken Blue as a "4" is Faulker. Did he have grade issues or did we just miss on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_arete Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 wanted to major in engineering and SLU didn't have that program. So we never really had a shot at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pakapablo Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Nice call! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 falker is an honor student. the engineering major he wanted slu did not have and siu did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 shaw did fine covering the skinny fast guys. it was newborne stepping out that shaw didnt cover. kudos to brad for seeing that and going with vashun in the second half instead of liddell vs shaw. besides vouyoukas, newborne was probably the most instrumental player in the game offensively. however, assuming tatum's previous game was not a fluke, polk and lisch shutting him off was huge. it was a weird game. if we could erase the last 10 minutes of the first half, damn that would have been one great performance overall by the billikens. but that 10 minute stretch will get us blown out against better teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Frank mentioned during the game that Falker was National Merit. He would have looked good in blue at the 4, someone who can defend and finish around the rim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidnark Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 I watched Iowa when I got home last night. Based on what I saw last night, I am not sure that any ten minute stretch will get us blown out by Iowa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 iowa is overated just because they are in the big ten. we should have beat them last year. the one thing iowa can and should focus on is the size difference. but if our guards are playing well, that should negate the size issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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