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Just read on FB SLU will gradually start reopening on 05/18 under government guidelines. The letter said about 50 students will be allowed to live on campus. Couple of questions: 

1) Will those students be fall sport athletes?

2) Will Travis be allowed to bring in BB players for NCAA allowed practices? I can't remember what the rules allow for off season workouts, but thought it was something like 3 sessions a month. Also, do you think players will be allowed access to facilities such as weight rooms, practice gym, rec center?

3) Are JGOOD and Has allowed to workout with team in sanctioned practices since they've declared? Not sure what the NCAA rules allow for declared players. 

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Very interesting possibility, from Sports Illustrated. Selected paragraphs are below.

https://www.si.com/college/2020/05/19/colleges-shift-academic-calendars-sports-impact-ncaa

The academic calendar is shifting at American universities as we speak. Will the athletic calendar shift with it?

On Monday, Notre Dame announced that it is starting its fall semester early, canceling fall break and ending the semester before Thanksgiving—something athletic director Jack Swarbrick indicated to Sports Illustrated was a possibility last week. That came a day after South Carolina announced a similar move, sending students home before Thanksgiving and then conducting finals remotely. Creighton and Marquette, among other schools, are also condensing their fall academic schedules.

Expect more and more universities to follow that trend in the near future.

The logic is solid: Students coming and going en masse from campus are at increased risk of bringing the COVID-19 virus back with them, and Thanksgiving break roughly coincides with the beginning of flu season and what many expect to be a spike in coronavirus cases. This is a decision that puts health first and shouldn’t scuttle the semester academically at those schools.

But if you apply those changes to the traditional football and basketball seasons, it will have an impact and spur some philosophical debates.

If schools want their campuses empty for up to two months, do the sports teams stay and play during that dead time? Are the student-athletes beholden to provide TV inventory for the masses while the non-athlete students have all gone home?

 

 

Basketball faces a bigger challenge. Its season is just cranking up in late November, with a host of marquee tournaments and neutral-site games clustered around Thanksgiving and many more to follow in the first half of December. Attendance already is quite likely to be limited, but imagining a Big Ten/ACC Challenge played at campus sites with almost no students (other than the ones in uniform) is sobering.

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No matter how u cut it, the 20-21 season is going to be a strange new world. So says, Captain Obvious. 

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2 hours ago, slu72 said:

No matter how u cut it, the 20-21 season is going to be a strange new world. So says, Captain Obvious. 

I met Captain Obvious once at Mardi Gras in Soulard. He was good dude...but MAN, was he hammered!

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6 hours ago, HoosierPal said:

Very interesting possibility, from Sports Illustrated. Selected paragraphs are below.

https://www.si.com/college/2020/05/19/colleges-shift-academic-calendars-sports-impact-ncaa

The academic calendar is shifting at American universities as we speak. Will the athletic calendar shift with it?

On Monday, Notre Dame announced that it is starting its fall semester early, canceling fall break and ending the semester before Thanksgiving—something athletic director Jack Swarbrick indicated to Sports Illustrated was a possibility last week. That came a day after South Carolina announced a similar move, sending students home before Thanksgiving and then conducting finals remotely. Creighton and Marquette, among other schools, are also condensing their fall academic schedules.

Expect more and more universities to follow that trend in the near future.

The logic is solid: Students coming and going en masse from campus are at increased risk of bringing the COVID-19 virus back with them, and Thanksgiving break roughly coincides with the beginning of flu season and what many expect to be a spike in coronavirus cases. This is a decision that puts health first and shouldn’t scuttle the semester academically at those schools.

But if you apply those changes to the traditional football and basketball seasons, it will have an impact and spur some philosophical debates.

If schools want their campuses empty for up to two months, do the sports teams stay and play during that dead time? Are the student-athletes beholden to provide TV inventory for the masses while the non-athlete students have all gone home?

 

 

Basketball faces a bigger challenge. Its season is just cranking up in late November, with a host of marquee tournaments and neutral-site games clustered around Thanksgiving and many more to follow in the first half of December. Attendance already is quite likely to be limited, but imagining a Big Ten/ACC Challenge played at campus sites with almost no students (other than the ones in

 

 

 

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The list keeps growing and will likely be the norm.  There will be (hopefully) a lot of college basketball games with no students until mid January.  That assumes any fans will be allowed.

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President just announced a plan do start early and end at Thanksgiving here, to:

 

Additionally, compelling reasons are emerging for us to start classes earlier than our pre-COVID-19 start date of Aug. 26. Several leading research universities have already announced their intention to do so. We recognize if an early start date is to occur, there will be disruptions. This has been the way of life for everyone over the past few months. But we also should remember that the fall semester will be an outlier. We are working hard to balance timely answers for our community with making the best decisions we can, while accepting the reality that there are many unknowns before us. We continue to carefully consider our path forward and will continue to communicate decisions as they are made. 

 

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29 minutes ago, DoctorB said:

President just announced a plan do start early and end at Thanksgiving here, to:

 

Additionally, compelling reasons are emerging for us to start classes earlier than our pre-COVID-19 start date of Aug. 26. Several leading research universities have already announced their intention to do so. We recognize if an early start date is to occur, there will be disruptions. This has been the way of life for everyone over the past few months. But we also should remember that the fall semester will be an outlier. We are working hard to balance timely answers for our community with making the best decisions we can, while accepting the reality that there are many unknowns before us. We continue to carefully consider our path forward and will continue to communicate decisions as they are made. 

 

The majority of colleges will undoubtedly follow.  Texas announced the same today.  This probably means sparse attendance in OOC (if fans are allowed) in every basketball arena.  With the campus' all but vacant, it puts the basketball players and staff in a much safer environment.

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23 minutes ago, DoctorB said:

President just announced a plan do start early and end at Thanksgiving here, to:

 

Additionally, compelling reasons are emerging for us to start classes earlier than our pre-COVID-19 start date of Aug. 26. Several leading research universities have already announced their intention to do so. We recognize if an early start date is to occur, there will be disruptions. This has been the way of life for everyone over the past few months. But we also should remember that the fall semester will be an outlier. We are working hard to balance timely answers for our community with making the best decisions we can, while accepting the reality that there are many unknowns before us. We continue to carefully consider our path forward and will continue to communicate decisions as they are made. 

 

Not to nitpick, but he didn't say they are definitely doing it, did he? Just that they are evaluating that plan.

To be clear, I think they will move forward with it, it's just not a done deal.

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1 hour ago, kshoe said:

Not to nitpick, but he didn't say they are definitely doing it, did he? Just that they are evaluating that plan.

To be clear, I think they will move forward with it, it's just not a done deal.

Doesn't this make more sense long term anyways? Especially years with Thanksgiving later in November, it seems like you go on break, come back for maybe 10 days, and go right back home. 

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7 minutes ago, JMM28 said:

Doesn't this make more sense long term anyways? Especially years with Thanksgiving later in November, it seems like you go on break, come back for maybe 10 days, and go right back home. 

COVID-19 is exposing a lot of outdated business practices.

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2 hours ago, kshoe said:

Not to nitpick, but he didn't say they are definitely doing it, did he? Just that they are evaluating that plan.

To be clear, I think they will move forward with it, it's just not a done deal.

No worries, nitpick away;  not in this email but the chairs have been told, after this email was sent out, it's "almost certain."  The president and admin have been testing the waters like this a lot -- sending out trial balloons...

I don't know if it makes more sense or not.  But credit/ contact hours must be met one way or the other, long term.

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34 minutes ago, 3star_recruit said:

COVID-19 is exposing a lot of outdated business practices.

speaking of which: did anyone else on here check out Prof. Scott Galloway on CNN last night; holy cajones.  that was a riveting panel discussion, revealing a lot of the problems with the "business model" of higher ed;  and sign me up for a class with that dude.  I agree with almost all that the says; his astute analysis is spot on; but there's still much denial in higher ed circles.  FWIW, SLU would be a tier 2 school, in terms of his analysis, I think...

 

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1 hour ago, JMM28 said:

Doesn't this make more sense long term anyways? Especially years with Thanksgiving later in November, it seems like you go on break, come back for maybe 10 days, and go right back home. 

It honestly would make more sense. Start in mid-August. Go to Thanksgiving. Take 5 weeks for Christmas break and get back to school shortly after New Years (instead of mid-January). A nice benefit of it is all the college students returning home could participate in the seasonal employment that is necessary between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

If everybody did this, they could legitimately change college basketball into a 1 semester only sport. No games during the fall session. Training camp/practices kick into full gear shortly after Thanksgiving (kind of like summer training camp for football) and teams play in some of the travel exempt tournaments in the weeks before Christmas. A little break for Christmas and the "on-campus" season starts up after that with the vast majority of games being held once students are back. March madness would need to turn into April madness but that would be fine. 

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AccordIng to a Singapore U study, we'll be over the crisis by 09/20. FWIW

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