Bills_06 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Congratulations to Coach Martin for buying himself the 4th ranked recruiting class. We now know that for at least $1.125 million, you can be #4. (We don't know if any of the other players received spending money.) I suggest that for $1.125 M and a #4 class, the expectation for Martin is at a minimum, Elite Eight, or maybe even Final Four. Anything less, well I would consider it a colossal waste of taxpayer money, and/or an abject failure of the program. Pressure is on. Last time he had a class that high, they made it all the way to the first round of the NCAA tournament only to be upset by 13 seed. That Cal team had a better returning roster though so I wouldn't set expectations that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 With Porter, I am legitimately surprised it is only #4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 47 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Congratulations to Coach Martin for buying himself the 4th ranked recruiting class. We now know that for at least $1.125 million, you can be #4. (We don't know if any of the other players received spending money.) I suggest that for $1.125 M and a #4 class, the expectation for Martin is at a minimum, Elite Eight, or maybe even Final Four. Anything less, well I would consider it a colossal waste of taxpayer money, and/or an abject failure of the program. Pressure is on. I am not sure if all the coaches salaries are paid with tax money - I think I was told that the AD has a fund raising arm that get the money for football and basketball salaries. If this is wrong then someone set me straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 55 minutes ago, HoosierPal said: Congratulations to Coach Martin for buying himself the 4th ranked recruiting class. We now know that for at least $1.125 million, you can be #4. (We don't know if any of the other players received spending money.) I suggest that for $1.125 M and a #4 class, the expectation for Martin is at a minimum, Elite Eight, or maybe even Final Four. Anything less, well I would consider it a colossal waste of taxpayer money, and/or an abject failure of the program. Pressure is on. Either you meant to use blue font for the text I highlighted in bold, or you are very naive about how funding for college athletics works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 This thread: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bonwich Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 As of 2016, the highest-paid UM employee (as in the amount actually paid by the UM system) was $700,000 to Tiger football offensive coordinator Josh Heupel. Pinkel got (officially) $350,000. Odom now gets $2.35 million from an official salary of $450,000 and nonsalary payments guaranteed at $1.9 million annually. Anderson's salary is $300,000 per year with $692,000 in nonsalary payments. Anyway, although taxpayers aren't paying the exorbitant numbers, they are paying for some of the highest public salaries in Missouri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majerus mojo Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 23 hours ago, Clock_Tower said: Tool Much more succinct, good job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiseAndGrind Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 4 hours ago, Box and Won said: This thread: Approved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 8 hours ago, Bills_06 said: Last time he had a class that high, they made it all the way to the first round of the NCAA tournament only to be upset by 13 seed. That Cal team had a better returning roster though so I wouldn't set expectations that high. Didn't they have multiple starters go down with injuries right before the tourney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Valley Sucks Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Stop making excuses for Missouri, it's pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorydays2013 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Marvin Bagley who reclassified to 2017 and went to Duke last night seems like an entirely different level than Porter. Was Porter overhyped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I don't know. Could you bring up ANOTHER school no one here cares at all about? That'd be cool. Notre Dame, Oklahoma (not osu,) Texas Tech, and Florida are great examples. Thanks, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 30 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: I don't know. Could you bring up ANOTHER school no one here cares at all about? That'd be cool. Notre Dame, Oklahoma (not osu,) Texas Tech, and Florida are great examples. Thanks, Rich http://www.slubillikens.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&ATCLID=211661415&_ga=2.71687131.93177699.1502814417-1806741824.1502814417 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, STL Hoops Insider said: http://www.slubillikens.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=27200&ATCLID=211661415&_ga=2.71687131.93177699.1502814417-1806741824.1502814417 I don't care about soccer, much less women's soccer, but at least it's Billiken Women's Soccer..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 How is the Webster chess team doing this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 23 hours ago, hsmith19 said: With Porter, I am legitimately surprised it is only #4. I felt the same way, but the classes that Duke, Kentucky, and Arizona are bringing in are even more elite: https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/rivals-2017-basketball-team-rankings-update Duke: PF Marvin Bagley (5-star)*, PG Trevon Duval (No. 4), C Wendell Carter (No. 5), SG Gary Trent (No. 17), SG Alex O’Connell (No. 54), SF Jordan Tucker (No. 68), PG Jordan Goldwire (NR 3-star). Kentucky: SF Kevin Knox (No. 9), SF Jarred Vanderbilt (No. 13), PF P.J. Washington (No. 14), C Nick Richards (No. 16), PG Quade Green (No. 21), PG Shai Alexander (No. 31), SG Jemarl Baker (No. 78). Arizona: PF DeAndre Ayton (No. 3), SF Emmanuel Akot (NR 5-star)*, SG Brandon Randolph (No. 49), PF Ira Lee (No. 57), PG Alex Barcello (No. 114). Mizzou: SF Michael Porter Jr. (No. 1), PF Jontay Porter (NR 5-star)*, C Jeremiah Tilmon (No. 42), PG C.J. Roberts (No. 104), PG Blake Harris (No. 131). *Bagley, Akot, and Jontay Porter were all 5-star 2018 recruits who reclassified as 2017 recruits and will play this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I do not know for sure but I believe that Duke and Kentucky bring in similar level classes year after year, maybe a couple of slots down in any particular year. For them this is nothing new, it is the way it is. I do not think this is the case for Arizona or Mizzou but I could be wrong here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, Old guy said: I do not know for sure but I believe that Duke and Kentucky bring in similar level classes year after year, maybe a couple of slots down in any particular year. For them this is nothing new, it is the way it is. I do not think this is the case for Arizona or Mizzou but I could be wrong here. Yes, the past several years have seen Duke and UK trading top-class rankings and splitting the bulk of the 5-star one-and-dones. Arizona has been right behind them with 4- and 5-star recruits, usually in or near the top 5 in terms of recruiting class rankings. This is new for Mizzou, at least in this era. Whether they can keep it up remains to be seen; they don't have more Porter families in queue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 4 hours ago, Billiken Rich said: I don't know. Could you bring up ANOTHER school no one here cares at all about? That'd be cool. Notre Dame, Oklahoma (not osu,) Texas Tech, and Florida are great examples. Thanks, Rich lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 Did Tilmon slide in the rankings after the whole de-commitment saga? I thought he was top 20 at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonaha Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 2 hours ago, hsmith19 said: Did Tilmon slide in the rankings after the whole de-commitment saga? I thought he was top 20 at one point. He had been sliding before the decommitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 8 hours ago, Billiken Rich said: I don't care about soccer, much less women's soccer, but at least it's Billiken Women's Soccer..... You said stop posting about schools no one here cares about. Are you telling me you don't care about other SLU sports? If you had it your way would you just watch SLU scrimmage itself every night to avoid seeing or hearing about other schools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 I don't think Duke and MU recruiting updates have any place on this board. Neither team will be playing each other until the Porters are a distant memory and Duke has a whole new crop of one and dones. Back to your scrimmage idea. I like it. I'd pay good money to watch the Billikens mens basketball tem play soccer against the womens soccer team. That would be the only soccer game worth watching. I'd take the ladies...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted August 16, 2017 Share Posted August 16, 2017 Give him a break. He just realized there are other teams in the country besides Marquette and has some catching up to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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