hsmith19 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I don't know, that shot he made at Duquesne would probably end up ranked somewhere in the middle of the 37 miracles in the New Testament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 You can find tons of quotes from the Bible saying to do your acts of kindness in secret because the only thing that matters is if God sees your acts of kindness. And either way, McBroom isn't Jesus Christ Of course not, but aren't we supposed to try to follow his example? You think the big guy would have had a problem with what AM did? I thought some of the messages at the beginning of the video were nice. It seemed to be done more in the spirit of trying to raise awareness rather than trying to manufacture accolades for themselves. If the video reached some of his peers, I can only see potential good coming from it and no downside. If it doesn't inspire people to action, at worst what happened is one homeless guy had a nice day. That's not so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 You can find tons of quotes from the Bible saying to do your acts of kindness in secret because the only thing that matters is if God sees your acts of kindness. And either way, McBroom isn't Jesus Christ Did you ever think he night have done it for a class project? I took a communications course and was on a team that did a project on drug halfway houses. Now, granted we didn't have the outlets to broadcast your work the way the kids do today, but it was shown to the class and the professor's other classes. Am sure we probably would have put it on you tube/net if it existed. Would you have been more supportive if he did a "jackass" vid and put it on you tube? And I didn't hear any reference to the real JC, although I did notice AMs tat of JC on his arm. He's obviously a man of some faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Of course not, but aren't we supposed to try to follow his example? You think the big guy would have had a problem with what AM did? I thought some of the messages at the beginning of the video were nice. It seemed to be done more in the spirit of trying to raise awareness rather than trying to manufacture accolades for themselves. If the video reached some of his peers, I can only see potential good coming from it and no downside. If it doesn't inspire people to action, at worst what happened is one homeless guy had a nice day. That's not so bad. I give McBroom all the credit in the world for what he did. I also understand the idea of posting the video to show people that it's cool and easy to do a kind act like that. But I get the feeling that the video wasn't only posted for that reason. Regardless it doesn't affect me so I'll drop it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 The fact that we're drawing ANY kind of negatives from this is embarrassing. HE'S AN AWESOME KID AND HE DID SOMETHING AWESOME FOR A PERSON IN NEED. Leave it at that. You're all being ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 And besides, to take another positive from him sharing the video it gave us a nice thread-starter to keep us entertained in the off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 The fact that we're drawing ANY kind of negatives from this is embarrassing. HE'S AN AWESOME KID AND HE DID SOMETHING AWESOME FOR A PERSON IN NEED. Leave it at that. You're all being ridiculous. Again just to stick up for myself, not saying anything bad about the act no matter what the intentions were. Either way he did something really good. Looking through the video and the tweets and retweets, I just get a little bit of a "look at me" type feeling from all of it. It's just my opinion. I know others share that opinion too. It's a message board so I'll state my opinion. Also I apologize for saying something bad about your good friend. I don't know him really well, so I can't tell you that he's an awesome person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Again just to stick up for myself, not saying anything bad about the act no matter what the intentions were. Either way he did something really good. Looking through the video and the tweets and retweets, I just get a little bit of a "look at me" type feeling from all of it. It's just my opinion. I know others share that opinion too. It's a message board so I'll state my opinion. Also I apologize for saying something bad about your good friend. I don't know him really well, so I can't tell you that he's an awesome person. I agree with you. Anytime you tweet out something good you did and then you retweet people who compliment you on doing that good thing it's going to seem like you're screaming "hey everyone, come and see how good I look" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Did you ever think he night have done it for a class project? I took a communications course and was on a team that did a project on drug halfway houses. Now, granted we didn't have the outlets to broadcast your work the way the kids do today, but it was shown to the class and the professor's other classes. Am sure we probably would have put it on you tube/net if it existed. Would you have been more supportive if he did a "jackass" vid and put it on you tube? And I didn't hear any reference to the real JC, although I did notice AMs tat of JC on his arm. He's obviously a man of some faith. Totally wild guess, as I don't know the kid, but I'm guessing he got the idea from Chad Ochocinco doing pretty much the exact same thing, not from a class assignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 All other issues aside may I ask how many of you ever never took a homeless person, bought him a meal, a haircut, some clothes and treated him like a worthy human being? I would be willing to bet not many have done so. And since this is going Chirist's way, just remember: "Let him who is free of all sin throw the first stone." McBroom and his buddy did something very commendable, something not many people do, he deserves respect for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 All other issues aside may I ask how many of you ever never took a homeless person, bought him a meal, a haircut, some clothes and treated him like a worthy human being? I would be willing to bet not many have done so. And since this is going Chirist's way, just remember: "Let him who is free of all sin throw the first stone." McBroom and his buddy did something very commendable, something not many people do, he deserves respect for this. +10000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Totally wild guess, as I don't know the kid, but I'm guessing he got the idea from Chad Ochocinco doing pretty much the exact same thing, not from a class assignment. So what you are saying is that when someone relatively famous does something truly positive and then publicizes it, others can be encouraged to do the same positive action. Something for people to think about when being critical of Austin's motivations for publicizing his actions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikenboy Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 To state the fact, AM should be applauded for what he did irrespective of what we think his motives were. I hear he is a good kid and I wish most of you will do the same in some way."Pay it forward." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 So what you are saying is that when someone relatively famous does something truly positive and then publicizes it, others can be encouraged to do the same positive action. Something for people to think about when being critical of Austin's motivations for publicizing his actions... Agreed...I wasn't trying to be critical with the Ochocinco comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Not a person here has criticized what he did for the guy. Just criticizing the act of showing everyone and retweeting everyone who compliments you. Reading comprehension on this board sucks. Side note: not sure Chad Ochocinco is the best guy to model your life after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Ty Cobb was nice to children and Mike Tyson was friends with pigeons. No reason you can't take positive examples from that without beating up disabled fans or biting opponents' ears off, I suppose. Ditto for Ochocinco and the homeless dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 To state the fact, AM should be applauded for what he did irrespective of what we think his motives were. I hear he is a good kid and I wish most of you will do the same in some way."Pay it forward." Exactly. And if part of this is a pay it forward concept he has to publicize it for it to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Making a video about it and retweeting everyone who says "look at how great these guys are" non stop are completely different. No fault with the act or the video. Fault with promoting yourself. Can someone show me tons of tweets and a video of either of Jake's mission trips? He got newspaper articles because you don't have to seek attention when you do something good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Not a person here has criticized what he did for the guy. Just criticizing the act of showing everyone and retweeting everyone who compliments you. Reading comprehension on this board sucks. Side note: not sure Chad Ochocinco is the best guy to model your life after. Retweeting those who compliment you just shows gratitude for others' appreciation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Retweeting those who compliment you just shows gratitude for others' appreciation. Not completely a generational thing (I assume slufan13 is younger) ... in that I admit that I have never sent a tweet, that I don't know exactly how they work, that I don't follow them nor do I have any immediate intention to do the same but possibly those who do tweet don't always realize the extent with which a tweet, just like with an internet post, etc. actually may travel. For instance, if AM wants to send his video to 20 of his friends and families, does it not make sense to send a tweet out to them without having any intention of conveying the same to the general public including us MBMs?? A lot easier than sending out as an email attachment were you actually have to type all 20 email addresses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Retweeting those who compliment you just shows gratitude for others' appreciation. First of all no. Second retweeting things like "everyone needs to be like austin mcbroom" is arrogant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For-DaLove Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Retweeting those who compliment you just shows gratitude for others' appreciation. I completely disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I need to stop because I don't think AM is a bad person by any means. And I think what they did for that guy is awesome. I have a problem with people promoting themselves and that's the sense I got from this situation. But I'll leave it at that. You guys are struggling to understand and I just need to shut up anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Retweeting those who compliment you just shows gratitude for others' appreciation. Not saying this as a shot at you in particular, but this is why your generation gets labeled generation suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills By 40 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Let's put it this way: if somebody told you "Hey, you're awesome. I wish more people were like you.", would you not be grateful? Who cares if he retweets it? He's not trying to form a twitter-dictatorship and mold everybody into an Austin McBroom clone; he's just showing appreciation towards his fans, in a 21st century type of way. I can appreciate your argument for specific tweets, such as "everybody needs to be like AM", but look at it this way: you're a measly little Billiken fan perusing through Twitter when you come across a tear-jerking motivating heart-warming video featuring an idol such as Austin McBroom. You watch the video then share with him your thoughts on the matter, giving him a little appreciation while you're at it. He shares your comment (retweets it) and your day is made because one of your favorite college basketball players shared your profile and thoughts with everybody that follows him. Not only did he take the time to read what you had to say, but he got you all types of good publicity. I don't know how many of you are Twitter-regulars, but speaking from experience, it's very easy to retweet or favorite everything you come by. I have about 8k tweets during my twitter career, and I bet 5.5k of them are retweets. If someone speaks highly of me, I'm going to be grateful of it and do them a favor by giving them some recognition: aka a simple retweet. A retweet is like a big thank you, especially if you're a figure of some type of authority such as Austin McBroom. You can't tell me that somebody tweeting him, saying - "Austin I really appreciate what you did for that man. That was extremely kind and generous and more people should follow your example." - shouldn't get some type of recognition? Some people appreciate being recognized for their work, and that doesn't necessarily mean they're cocky, doing it for their own good, or not humble. It's just his way of showing appreciation for others' appreciation. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Nothing at all. I need to stop because I don't think AM is a bad person by any means. And I think what they did for that guy is awesome. I have a problem with people promoting themselves and that's the sense I got from this situation. But I'll leave it at that. You guys are struggling to understand and I just need to shut up anyway. I understand where you're coming from, and I appreciate a good argument, however I disagree with your viewpoint and that's why I'm continuing this conversation. Some people may publicize because of greed or for personal gain, but in this particular case, you can't take anything bad from it. Come on now. This video couldn't do anything but good, for example, my friend and I decided after watching this video to follow in their footsteps and do the same ourselves. Maybe even taking it one step further by attempting to find employment for our friend-to-be. Austin McBroom was simply trying to make the world a better place... Not saying this as a shot at you in particular, but this is why your generation gets labeled generation suck. I see your "no offense intended", but I am taking a little bit of offense from this. I don't typically associate myself with the majority of my generation, which I would agree sucks, but not fair to stereotype like that. That's similar to women saying "All guys are @$$holes." Come on, now... Keep an open-mind, I'd like to think that I'm an alright guy. Retweeting those who compliment you just shows gratitude for others' appreciation. I realize that this is also an unlikely generalization. I cannot speak on behalf of everybody that manages a twitter account, but those people with humility and integrity like myself, and from the reputation he has shown to me, Austin McBroom, would fit in the category that provides truth to my prior statement. There are exceptions to every rule, but I believe AM fits in this category. Just appreciate the man... Excelling on the court, the classroom, AND as a human being. That's what being a Billiken is all about. P.S. Shout-out to whomever actually takes the time to read all of that, I hope I didn't put that much thought and effort into it for it to be skimmed or ignored hah, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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