kshoe Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Alumni, It blows my mind why you keep saying you would prefer to be in the old a-10 with teams like gw, Fordham, Rhode Island, st Bon etc instead of the new big east with teams like Marquette g-town, St. John's, etc. The teams we like (butler, Xavier and Dayton) will likely be the same in either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dneuner Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 As somebody that is partially in the media you may want to get facts... If you want to post as a casual fan with no media implications maybe use an alias. Speak as both. Not authorized to use the facts, which aren't much greater than what's been said publicly. I am not suggesting SLU isn't trying. Indeed I'd agree they are very much active and not sitting on their hands, as some have suggested. I am simply stating, based off what I know and what I perceive to be, that this is as serious as a situation as can get. If SLU is not allowed entry into the BE, because of circumstances outside their control, so be it. But if it's found otherwise, there must be consequences. Since I've relegated my position as beat writer for the team and publish only my opinions, I feel I am free to say this. And, I remain optimistic. Two major decisions await Chris May and Larry Biondi. I have confidence in both men to make wise and appropriate decisions. I may be talking in circles, but, they must be held responsible for their decisions by the fan base and media. You can't overstate how much of a make-or-break 2013 is for Saint Louis U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Laughable. If SLU isn't in BE by July 1, 2014, May and Biondi should be let go. No excuse. NONE. Lol. Good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Alumni, It blows my mind why you keep saying you would prefer to be in the old a-10 with teams like gw, Fordham, Rhode Island, st Bon etc instead of the new big east with teams like Marquette g-town, St. John's, etc. The teams we like (butler, Xavier and Dayton) will likely be the same in either. Well, perhaps I wasn't clear. If the A10 did not have Butler or X leaving, I would prefer to stay in the A10 - absolutely. Since they have left, yes, I want to be in the NBE. Seton Hall, St. Johns, Depaul, even Villanova just don't get me that excited. Butler, X, VCU, and yes, even SVU, do get me excited. We already have pretty good rivalries with all of these schools. I get that there are some crap teams in the A10, but, quite frankly, some of those teams have had some decent runs in the past just like Seton Hall (or Seton Hill as a member of our local media recently called it), St. John's and Depaul. If everything works out the way we want (i.e. we are in the NBE for 2014) great, but I definitely would not have been disappointed if NOTHING had changed and we had stayed in the A10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dneuner Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Lol. Good one. I guess I don't get the joke... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLUDrew Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 We lost X, Butler, Temple, and Charlotte and are adding GMU. Go back and check my posts I have been the biggest proponent of being in the A-10 and have laughed out loud at anyone who says we belong in the Valley, BUT at this point I would really appreciate someone telling me how this league is not becoming just an east coast version of the Missouri Valley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sludevil Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Well, perhaps I wasn't clear. If the A10 did not have Butler or X leaving, I would prefer to stay in the A10 - absolutely. Since they have left, yes, I want to be in the NBE. Seton Hall, St. Johns, Depaul, even Villanova just don't get me that excited. Butler, X, VCU, and yes, even SVU, do get me excited. We already have pretty good rivalries with all of these schools. I get that there are some crap teams in the A10, but, quite frankly, some of those teams have had some decent runs in the past just like Seton Hall (or Seton Hill as a member of our local media recently called it), St. John's and Depaul. If everything works out the way we want (i.e. we are in the NBE for 2014) great, but I definitely would not have been disappointed if NOTHING had changed and we had stayed in the A10. Even if the A10 remained intact, though, the NBE was always going to offer a payout in the multiples of what's offered by the A10. And we don't really have any rivalres with A10 schools - while the NBE offers rivalry potential in Marquette and Depaul. And the A10 can't compete with the NBE at the top - Georgetown and Marquette are just far bigger draws than Xavier and VCU. The NBE would be huge for our program, and huge for the university. Getting left behind in the A10 wouldn't be the end of the world but, compared to the alternative, would put us in a far less desirable position. Hopefully May/Biondi can work their magic on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Even if the A10 remained intact, though, the NBE was always going to offer a payout in the multiples of what's offered by the A10. And we don't really have any rivalres with A10 schools - while the NBE offers rivalry potential in Marquette and Depaul. And the A10 can't compete with the NBE at the top - Georgetown and Marquette are just far bigger draws than Xavier and VCU. The NBE would be huge for our program, and huge for the university. Getting left behind in the A10 wouldn't be the end of the world but, compared to the alternative, would put us in a far less desirable position. Hopefully May/Biondi can work their magic on this one. Putting aside the argument that longer term the financial dynamics may have changed given the A10's relative success, I agree with everything you say. I hope like hell we get in the NBE, but I am just frustrated that this whole thing happened because there is variability in outcomes and we are NOT a lock for the NBE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Spitting in the dark, actually. It's my favorite thing to do. Avis Meyer would have -canned you before you hit the Post button on this board. Journalism, meet the shitter. Shitter, meet journalism. ...and flush... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dneuner Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Avis Meyer would have ######-canned you before you hit the Post button on this board. Journalism, meet the shitter. Shitter, meet journalism. ...and flush... Avis loves me actually. Tried to get me to run for editor-in-chief but school commitments kept me from doing it. I just stare at my many state and regional journalism awards instead. It's how I sleep at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlarry Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Ideal situation no. Bad addition no. It is what it is. Hopefully SLU gets out but under the circumstances not a bad get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillikenLaw Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Avis Meyer would have ######-canned you before you hit the Post button on this board. Journalism, meet the shitter. Shitter, meet journalism. ...and flush... It's funny, "flush" seems like the appropriate thing to do to every single one of your posts, tool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo027 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 So are we resigning ourselves to mi major obscurity then?I agree. The A-10 should look into adding Indiana, Syracuse, UConn, North Carolina, Duke, ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JettFlight5 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I agree. The A-10 should look into adding Indiana, Syracuse, UConn, North Carolina, Duke, ect.I heard Kentucky wasn't happy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillikenLaw Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Who would you like to add? I don't see anyone else out there. +1 I hope just as much as any one of you all that we're in the new Big East next year or the following, but barring that, the best we can do is hope that they add those schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billslasttermdropout Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Long term, I won't be happy being isolated like we're Hawaii or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Question: why expand if we're not adding a program like Butler or VCU like we did last year? GMU doesn't make us better, it just adds another 'eh' team. I'm just wondering what the benefits are. Won't help our SOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I Wouldnt add Anyone Unless They Are A Program => Butler/xu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappy96 Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 They need 12 for when we split Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 G Mason = C+.....Closest A-10 match = Charlotte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NH Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Does anybody else think the fact that the A-10 is so gung-ho about adding teams makes it seem like they are confident that SLU is going to leave. ^sorry if already posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillikenLaw Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Does anybody else think the fact that the A-10 is so gung-ho about adding teams makes it seem like they are confident that SLU is going to leave. ^sorry if already posted Considering Butler and Xavier already left, I don't think it really means anything more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dneuner Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Does anybody else think the fact that the A-10 is so gung-ho about adding teams makes it seem like they are confident that SLU is going to leave. ^sorry if already posted Yes, since McGlade has stated before that 12 teams was ideal for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Ken Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I am nervous about our chances going to the NBE.....I think Dayton and Richmond are serious threats to take the last 2 spots. I just don't see this new conference adding 2 more mid-west teams. I hope I am wrong. Richmond is a serious threat, they have the resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlumniFan Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Does anybody else think the fact that the A-10 is so gung-ho about adding teams makes it seem like they are confident that SLU is going to leave. ^sorry if already posted UMass, SLU, Dayton, Richmond - someone is leaving. The A10 is putting contingency plans in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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