SLU_Nick Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 The general tone of the board is obviously shock. But it seems like everyone including the kool aiders are excited about what is going to happen. Even in the end Roy and others were saying "Its useless to talk about firing Soderberg because it wont happen". No one was really backing soderberg and saying he was a good coach. Now that this has happened, the board is more excited than since the time of the Saint Bonnies loss. No where on the board has anyone been outraged. Even Billikan himself just continues to attack posters, not attack the University for its decision making. I am the most excited about the program since the 2 losses to the Dukes and Bonnies. It does certainly make you wonder if Sodie had an idea it was coming as he hasnt closed the deal on people who were dying to commit somewhere (Peterson). Hopefully insiders keep informing us. This is certainly a turning point. Onward and Upward. Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billiken_roy Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 i agree it is a turning point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cowboy Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I would have to think Brad had no idea this was coming, but that maybe very naive on my part. I wonder how far along scheduling is and does this totally upset the apple cart? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billikan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Where did I attack anyone who posted today? That is ridiculous. I am not "excited" about this firing. If we have a big name coach in hand then it may turn out fine. If not, it could be one of the worst things to happen to SLU basketball in years! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BB Scout Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Well, love him or hate him, he was a true throwback pioneer of the game. The SLU program game is where it is today because of the efforts of Brad. Hats off to Coach Soderberg and his departing staff. Everyone should be grateful to have seen Brad coach because he’s a fine young coach. I look for bigger and better results from this guy in the future. It just didn’t work out here at SLU because of reasons other than his coaching abilities. Good luck to him and his family and I hope SLU brings in a coach that can bring us a championship Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3star_recruit Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I don't see many excited posters this morning. I see a lot of extremely concerned ones. Because the limited coaching options available, the administration's next move could improve the program or set us back to the early 1980s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brianstl Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 I feel pretty confident there is a spot for him on the bench at WSU if he is intrested. It wouldn't be a bad place to start rebuilding his rep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billiken Rich Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Who wants to pony up for a PSL at the new arena with Coach Dufass from Jerkwater, Iowa at the helm. If this isn't a done deal for someone sexy, it could be a disaster...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billikan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Unless he is the best actor in history, based upon my discussions with Brad on Sunday night he had no idea that this was coming. He was excited about the two recruits who had signed and said he was really enjoying the recruiting competition for the other recruits. He said he was looking forward to next season and was upbeat and friendly and he had his whole family there. When someone came up and asked him about his son he said he was proud of his development and when asked if he would be coming to SLU Brad very directly said that he would be coming to SLU. If he knew he was about to be fired I would be amazed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorB Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Excited!?? Wow. I think you are misreading the signs. Nobody I have talked to is excited. Irate is more like it. The timing of this is a PR disaster. I have info from a reliable source that practically all of the guys we were recruiting are long gone, history. Alexander is announcing later today for Illinois. I predict our recruiting class is now complete, based on what I am hearing. In fact, there is the possiblity of releasing Relphorde and losing him, too; and I have been one of the most hopeful guys on here for new recruits. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I am not excited at all, the timing of this makes SLU athletics look like amateur hour, and I am very, very, very sorry to see this development. . . . a PR and recruiting disaster. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billikan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 You are articulating my worst fears. I truly cannot figure out the timing of this firing. It just does not make any sense unless we have a big time coach who said he would come to SLU but only if the decision is made immediately. If that is not the case, then there must be more to the story than we all know because on its face it just seems stupid! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
3star_recruit Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Even if we get a big name, if he's not in place by the end of the week, there may not be any decent players left to sign. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billiken_roy Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 all the more reason the hiring has to be bigtime and the whole scenario thought out. if not, it is hard telling who might be on next year's roster. i have confidence the powers behind this are smarter than that no matter what the motivation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SLU_Nick Posted April 17, 2007 Author Share Posted April 17, 2007 Ok, if we keep our players in tact, I am excited. I wanna see a different product on the court. We are too talented to be 5th place in the 12 rated conference in the nation. Am I wrong about that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DoctorB Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 "i have confidence the powers behind this are smarter than that no matter what the motivation." thanks, roy, I needed a laugh. I have to use some sarcasm here, sorry, with all due respect. this ill-timed firing is just more evidence to me that the "powers" do not know what the heck they are doing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billiken_roy Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 doc, i have been preaching such for month, but this is so big and so bizzare, i am hoping there was more thought on this issue. to be completely honest, i am not a happy guy right now. but i am trying to remain optimstic until the whole scenario plays out. every second we sit here in the dark the worse it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pakapablo Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Earl Austin mentioned Brad had an in home recruiting visit last night and a trip planned this weekend to Houston with his coaches for some tourney. Can't imagine he knew it was coming if he was sitting in some recruits living room last night. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NashvilleBilliken Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Yeah, I think excited is the wrong word here. Scared is more like it. As I said earlier, next year is basically SHOT. First, how many of our current players are gonna leave? If anybody does, it will be Kevin and Tommie. Who are we gonna sign? NOBODY. Who's out there to sign now? We will be screwed next year...and probably 2009. WHY FIRE THE GUY NOW?! This just doesn't make sense to me. If they don't have somebody lined up, I hope guys like Drew, Nark, Metz, etc are knocking down Biondi's door with the same fevor they showed to can Brad. Just a dumb move. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Billikan Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 This could be the "Upchurch' decision of the modern era. I was furious then and I will be furious again if this blows up in our face like it appears it will at this point. The more it sinks in the more I have to believe there must be something more to this story. If not, the decision is absolutely idiotic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
billiken_roy Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 nick, if the new coach isnt an immediate difference maker, and we dont sign two more players and cant keep relephorde and/or mitchell, you are naive to think we will have a better product anytime soon. it would truly be starting over again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basketbill Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 the real reason, that Altman bailed on Arkansas! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MICHAELSPAPPY Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 What are they thinking? Even if there should have been a change, which I question, why would they do it this way? Evidently they sat down and tried to figure out how to change coaches that would do the most damage to the program. Good grief! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StLouBlue Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 Doc I agree. This is why I just have a hard time believing CL was behind this, a good AD would know the right way to fire and hire a new coach, "big time" boosters probably don't. If it was actually big time boosters behind this, at least I am happy know SLU has a few of these. Of course I hope those same boosters have some big checks ready to pay our next coach as well. I am glad b-roy is trying to be optimistic about this, I just can't at this point. If the new coach is an obvious improvement over Brad and he is hired within a week, I will feel a lot happier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NashvilleBilliken Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 "If the new coach is an obvious improvement over Brad and he is hired within a week, I will feel a lot happier." Exactly how i feel. If this whole thing was as poorly planned and implemented as it appears right now, I will remain furious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kmbilliken Posted April 17, 2007 Share Posted April 17, 2007 The timing makes no sense unless Cheryl waited to see if he pulls off a good recruiting spring class. She sees he signs one decent recruit and a project. She asks him who else he expects to sign and he says he's not sure if anyone else will sign. Given his prior recruiting track record, with that reply she decides to pull the trigger now rather than wait for the next recruiting dissapointment in the fall and set us back another year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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