KannapolisBillsMan Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I haven't seen Mr. John play, but for those who have, what current or former college player does he remind you of??? Also, what current or former Billiken player does he remind you of??? From reading the board, it seems you guys are all pumped up to have this kid on board for '08. I would just like to see some comparisons...nothing Harold Miner-esque, hopefully! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 I haven't seen him except maybe at the shootout, but I picture Josh Fisher as a freshman. Official Billikens.com sponsor of H Waldman Official Sponser of the Stemmler and Ahearn could and would have helped club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Devin Brown from USA, University of San Antonio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Let's not compare Femi to a guy who has played in the NBA just yet. You think we can wait to see him play one college game before we make that kind of comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 But he made it as an undrafted free agent. You asked for a comparison, and that's my comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billikan Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 This may sound weird but I think the player who he most reminds me off coming out of high school--although he is taller--is Irwin Claggett. He is a potential big time scorer with a nice long shot that is getting better. He is not yet a polished all around player but in the right situation where he gets good coaching and has a point guard that can get him aht ball he can be a clutch scorer. Irwin also needed to work on his defense coming out of high school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Anthony Jones but more skilled on the perimeter. Bodytype similar to John Redden, more athletic than him but not nearly the defender. Bills haven't really had a guy like John. North has always had an awesome weight program and he is a product of it. At 6'3. 6'4 and he is solidly over 200 lbs. A really strong guard, can rebound against bigger guys and run over over people to the basket. His shooting needs work. He isn't a terrible defender or as bad as people say he is. North runs a zone all the time so his one on one skills are rarely seen defensively but he has them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Good post about their weight program. They send guys D1 every year in football, often multiple guys, including this year with Josh Hager (Indiana) and starting pg Brandon Thompson going to SEMO for football. In fact, I think the team's entire starting lineup in basketball is going D1 in some sport because I think Ryan Goldkamp is a D1 soccer player. Their weight program is tremendous. Roundtree, John, and Booker are built like football players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 If we're going to limit it to current Billikens, that's a pretty apt comparison IMO. Fish as a frosh was a jack of all trades, master of none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archy McNally Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 It is not a fair comparison yet, but I am thinking his upside is that he becomes a player like Derrick Brooks was at SIU. However, I have just seen highlights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Especially when you compare what they were on the high school level. Femi, I think is a lot stronger at this stage than Darren was. That is a lot to ask Femi to live up to. Brooks was a hell of a player, one of my favorites. That said I do like the comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Little known fact -- Brooks hit over 40 threes and shot over 40% from three point range his senior year at Jennings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 If he's the next Darren Brooks, then we got a steal with him. I loved Brooks' game in high school and thought SLU should have given him a shot, but like most other schools, SLU didn't see a lot of upside with him and let him slip through the cracks. SIU was smart on that one. I've never seen Femi John play, but I can only hope he's like Brooks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Femi will definitely have to shoot better from long range this coming season to match those numbers that Brooks put up his senior season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archy McNally Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 I do want to emphasize that I am thinking that a Brooks-type is his UPSIDE potential. The DOWNSIDE potential would be Ricky Cranford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 archy, we never got an opportunity to see cranford before he signed. we have seen john. the first 20 seconds cranford played for slu it was obvious we had been snookered. john is not ricky cranford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Cranford was athletic, but he had the ugliest shot I've ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 to watch him without the ball on the court was simply painful. it was like turning loose a 6th grader in his first game. he had absolutely no team sense about him. athletic maybe, and ball skills maybe, but that is for the playground, not division one basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Femi is a excellent student. Randy couldn't spell Randy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Randy was an incredible athlete, recruited all over the place for basketball and football, but his shot was ugly. However, we had a few much worse than him at shooting on that team: Floyd McClain (went in sometimes, but terrible mechanics), John Seyfert, and Kenny Brown (maybe not fair becuase they were bigs, though). Even when Randy left SLU with a Bluto Blutarski GPA of 0.0 (after a year at the academic powerhouse Barton CCC), he was heavily sought after by Mizzou, Arizona, and a lot more. Nice player and nice kid, just wish he could have gotten it together in the classroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 I thought his name was Charles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger72 Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 How in the world could you compare Femi John to a MVC player. His game reminds me of Vinnie Johnson. He is a great scorer but not a great shooter. Has one of the better mid range games I have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 Your description of Femi John reminds me of Justin Love, though I think he was about 6-2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 that Cranford's shot was the uggliest he had ever seen. I submitted that Pulley's was worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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