The Bills over Tulane by 5

[almaman]

MMM already!

[RiseOfTheBillikens]

Woooops wrong thread. 

[RiseOfTheBillikens]

Nm

[RiseOfTheBillikens]

Nm

[juniorbill76]

Just now, RiseOfTheBillikens said:

Up 16 at half I think? Need to find a way to stop Lawson. Besides that they can't beat us. French has to have a load of room inside with all these 3's going down. 

Come on over to the GDT.

[RiseOfTheBillikens]

Guys... We might be good.

[The Wiz]

This was a great win for The Bills. It was a great win not because we beat a C team but because we played a great game....strong offense and defense. The mantra for this team till today has been inconsistency...not a surprise with so many new players.  The inconsistency is  not only game to game but even during games...but not today. We whupped them on offense and defense....Here is the Tulane slash....39 /40/38...and here is The Bills slash 55/61/ 43...Whatever you think of Tulane, they are a good shooting team. ...not today.   Even though the Bills had another bad day at the foul line....we even beat them there on %.   Three  Pt shooting was outstanding...actually beyond that ...it was historic as the Bills set a new record of shots made from the arc.   The Bills normally shoot 32% from the perimeter. If you take 32% of 28 (3Pt Atts)   you get 9 shots made.  The Bills actual made 17 shots or an extra 8 shots.....8 shots x 3 = 24pts.....Hmmm, what is the significance of 24pts in this game???    Now everyone is talking about 3Pt shooting ...and they should be....but let's be clear ...it wasn't just the 3 pt shooting....Did you know we out shot them from inside the arc too.....50% to 39%...and finally let us not forget about rebounding...we won the battle by 9...I was looking for 10 rebs but that is close enough.

The Bills need to remember this game and play with the same intensity going forward...especially the next game...Auburn...which will be our toughest regular season game of the year..

But for now,  savor the victory.

[Old guy]

Completely agree Wiz.

[Old guy]

After the game against Tulane yesterday, this is what teamrankings has in terms of SLU's game stats compared to Auburn's game stats:

Offensive Stat Comparison

Stat	SLU	AUB
Points/Game	73.8	85.0
Avg Score Margin	+10.9	+17.1
Assists/Game	15.0	15.0
Total Rebounds/Gm	42.4	42.8
Effective FG %	51.5%	55.3%
Off Rebound %	34.5%	34.7%
FTA/FGA	0.370	0.386
Turnover %	16.3%	15.7%

Defensive Stat Comparison

Stat	SLU	AUB
Opp Points/Game	62.9	67.9
Opp Effective FG %	45.4%	46.4%
Off Rebounds/Gm	12.2	11.6
Def Rebounds/Gm	27.6	27.8
Blocks/Game	4.7	6.0
Steals/Game	8.0	6.8
Personal Fouls/Gm	18.4	16.6

As you can see our game stats for the year are fairly close to Auburn's and in a number of cases better than Auburn's. If we play against Auburn as we did against Tulane, we can win this game. It will not be easy but it can be done. Remember, competitive sports are a dynamic system, not a static one. Past performance is not predictive of future performance, it all depends on how the teams play in that particular day.

 

[JettFlight5]

1 hour ago, Old guy said:

After the game against Tulane yesterday, this is what teamrankings has in terms of SLU's game stats compared to Auburn's game stats:

Offensive Stat Comparison

Stat	SLU	AUB
Points/Game	73.8	85.0
Avg Score Margin	+10.9	+17.1
Assists/Game	15.0	15.0
Total Rebounds/Gm	42.4	42.8
Effective FG %	51.5%	55.3%
Off Rebound %	34.5%	34.7%
FTA/FGA	0.370	0.386
Turnover %	16.3%	15.7%

Defensive Stat Comparison

Stat	SLU	AUB
Opp Points/Game	62.9	67.9
Opp Effective FG %	45.4%	46.4%
Off Rebounds/Gm	12.2	11.6
Def Rebounds/Gm	27.6	27.8
Blocks/Game	4.7	6.0
Steals/Game	8.0	6.8
Personal Fouls/Gm	18.4	16.6

As you can see our game stats for the year are fairly close to Auburn's and in a number of cases better than Auburn's. If we play against Auburn as we did against Tulane, we can win this game. It will not be easy but it can be done. Remember, competitive sports are a dynamic system, not a static one. Past performance is not predictive of future performance, it all depends on how the teams play in that particular day.

 

If the Bills play the way they did against Tulane, they could beat anybody in the country by double figures. That's a high bar to reach game in and game out though. 

[The Wiz]

In addressing the exchange above between Old Guy and Jetflight...., they are both correct.  OG said if we play like we did against Tulane , we can beat Auburn...True.  And JF said it is unrealistic to expect that kind of play in any or every game.....True. 

Here is what I said at the end of my post game analysis from above.

"The Bills need to remember this game and play with the same intensity going forward...especially the next game...Auburn...which will be our toughest regular season game of the year"

To shoot above 55% (FG%)....and 40% (3P%) are A+ stats. What we did Sunday was historic. ....Something that will not happen again for a long time (17  threes)

The numbers from Team Rankings that OG posted are season averages...includes some good games and some bad ones.  One of the metrics I use is a trending report card....where recent games are valued more than earlier ones.   What kind of team are we now....important in a new , changing and developing team.  Overall, the Bills remain as a B team (it is harder to move your grade as data accumulates) BUT on the trending line the Bills are showing at A- ....an indication of not only where we are now but of where we can be... going forward.

Every year, every team has an outlier game...which shows how good ( or bad ) a team can be...the potential...a high bar that is attainable because we have already done it.

My point from the post game analysis above was that... we don't need to recreate the numbers from Tulane ...we need to recreate the intensity and consistency from the Tulane game and the numbers ( and the wins) will take care of themselves. 

[brianstl]

12 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

In addressing the exchange above between Old Guy and Jetflight...., they are both correct.  OG said if we play like we did against Tulane , we can beat Auburn...True.  And JF said it is unrealistic to expect that kind of play in any or every game.....True. 

Here is what I said at the end of my post game analysis from above.

"The Bills need to remember this game and play with the same intensity going forward...especially the next game...Auburn...which will be our toughest regular season game of the year"

To shoot above 55% (FG%)....and 40% (3P%) are A+ stats. What we did Sunday was historic. ....Something that will not happen again for a long time (17  threes)

The numbers from Team Rankings that OG posted are season averages...includes some good games and some bad ones.  One of the metrics I use is a trending report card....where recent games are valued more than earlier ones.   What kind of team are we now....important in a new , changing and developing team.  Overall, the Bills remain as a B team (it is harder to move your grade as data accumulates) BUT on the trending line the Bills are showing at A- ....an indication of not only where we are now but of where we can be... going forward.

Every year, every team has an outlier game...which shows how good ( or bad ) a team can be...the potential...a high bar that is attainable because we have already done it.

My point from the post game analysis above was that... we don't need to recreate the numbers from Tulane ...we need to recreate the intensity and consistency from the Tulane game and the numbers ( and the wins) will take care of themselves. 

I thought Ford really had the team prepared well for the game.  It appeared they really made the best possible use of the week off.  Now we have a week to prepare for the Auburn game.  We will have fresh legs and should be well prepared.  The only negative is Auburn has 9 days off.  

[Old guy]

3 hours ago, The Wiz said:

IMy point from the post game analysis above was that... we don't need to recreate the numbers from Tulane ...we need to recreate the intensity and consistency from the Tulane game and the numbers ( and the wins) will take care of themselves. 

This is entirely correct. Please note that there is no statistic for intensity of play as a separate measurement. However, you can get an idea about the intensity of play from the stats by looking at the dominance a team shows in areas like rebounds, assists, blocks, and steals. It might be interesting to create some kind of "index of play intensity" based upon these parameters.