Old guy Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 43 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Technically, other than BOHICA, none of the sets of initials you used in your post is an acronym. Kindly explain why not please? What technical issue is missing? 4 minutes ago, slufanskip said: USN? My bad, USS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Old guy said: Kindly explain why not please? What technical issue is missing? My bad, USS You weren't wrong USN … United States Navy. Just wondering why it wasn't an acronym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBL_Bills Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 If you say the name of each letter, then it’s considered an “initialism,” not an “acronym.” “Acronym” is when you pronounce the whole thing as one word. Example: FBI is an initialism, whereas SCUBA is an acronym. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Old guy said: Kindly explain why not please? What technical issue is missing? See GBL_Bills's post above. https://data.grammarbook.com/blog/abbreviations/abbreviations-acronyms-and-initialisms-revisited/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 16 hours ago, SluSignGuy said: Wow I always say A. S. C. 2 Code. I must be the least hip computer literate guy on the planet. Is it pronounced "assy-two?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 9 hours ago, slufanskip said: You weren't wrong USN … United States Navy. Just wondering why it wasn't an acronym Acronym Buff -- Big ugly fat f-----er (B52) Sluf -- Short little ugly f----er (A7) Not an acronym CF WTF USN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: Acronym Buff -- Big ugly fat f-----er (B52) Sluf -- Short little ugly f----er (A7) Not an acronym CF WTF USN Curious as to why it wouldn't be considered an acronym? This link thinks it would be https://www.acronymfinder.com/Index-USF.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: Wow I always say A. S. C. 2 Code. I must be the least hip computer literate guy on the planet. Is it pronounced "assy-two?" (Assuming you aren't joking around:) "American Standard Code for Information Interchange." Those are two of the letter I, not the Roman numeral 2. It's pronounced "AS-key." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, slufanskip said: Curious as to why it wouldn't be considered an acronym? This link thinks it would be https://www.acronymfinder.com/Index-USF.html Many people don't differentiate between an acronym and initialism. However, it's really only and acronym if the letters are made into a word — SWINE (Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything). But if it's a series of letters spelled out, it's not an acronym — NCAA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 46 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Many people don't differentiate between an acronym and initialism. However, it's really only and acronym if the letters are made into a word — SWINE (Students Wildly Indignant about Nearly Everything). But if it's a series of letters spelled out, it's not an acronym — NCAA. So would POTUS be an acronym? I read the posts above late. So I'm understanding the initials don't have to actually form a word, you just need to be able to pronounce them. So USN … No BMW .. yes (pronounced Big Money Waster) How about ESPN? I hear it pronounced espin sometimes. That seems to be one that treads the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 59 minutes ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: (Assuming you aren't joking around:) "American Standard Code for Information Interchange." Those are two of the letter I, not the Roman numeral 2. It's pronounced "AS-key." Maybe not a computer literate as I thought......more of a hardware guy I guess..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBL_Bills Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, slufanskip said: So would POTUS be an acronym? I read the posts above late. So I'm understanding the initials don't have to actually form a word, you just need to be able to pronounce them. So USN … No BMW .. yes (pronounced Big Money Waster) How about ESPN? I hear it pronounced espin sometimes. That seems to be one that treads the line Yeah you're correct. POTUS is an acronym because people pronounce it "poh-tuss". I would say ESPN is an initialism, not an acronym, because I've only ever heard people say the letters. If the majority called it "espin" then it would be an acronym. slufanskip likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, Billiken Rich said: Maybe not a computer literate as I thought......more of a hardware guy I guess..... We all dabble in computers, we need to because the miserable things oftentimes do not work as you expect them to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, GBL_Bills said: Yeah you're correct. POTUS is an acronym because people pronounce it "poh-tuss". I would say ESPN is an initialism, not an acronym, because I've only ever heard people say the letters. If the majority called it "espin" then it would be an acronym. Thx for the explanation. It does seem however though that what might be an initialism to one person might be an acronym to another using ESPN as an example. For sure most people say ESPN but I've heard it pronounced espin, not very often but not really rare either. In fact I've done it. Also USAF is occaisionally pronounced yousayf though the majority of people probably sound out the initials. A little Skipschooling on Billikens.com is a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bauman Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Good grief! Please start the MBB (an initialism) so we can see JG, CAG and other initialisms. GBL_Bills likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBL_Bills Posted August 10, 2018 Author Share Posted August 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, slufanskip said: Thx for the explanation. It does seem however though that what might be an initialism to one person might be an acronym to another using ESPN as an example. For sure most people say ESPN but I've heard it pronounced espin, not very often but not really rare either. In fact I've done it. Also USAF is occaisionally pronounced yousayf though the majority of people probably sound out the initials. A little Skipschooling on Billikens.com is a good thing I mean, it's all semantics and doesn't really matter at all. I just brought it up to make fun of BRoy's initial crusade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, bauman said: Good grief! Please start the MBB (an initialism) so we can see JG, CAG and other initialisms. Not an acronym: JG -- Junior Grade (Lt.) Acronym CAG -- Commander Air Group Sorry. Couldn't help myself..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 <1 page discussion of SLU (acronym) fundraising. >1 page OT (initialism) discussion of distinction between acronyms and instances of initialism Welcome to the dog days of the Billikens.com off season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 So, you have provided a way to differentiate between initialism and acronyms. Fine, all is well. Let me expand my prior post a bit: Initialisms and acronyms are a lot of fun. I hope everyone is happy with extending the "fun" concept to initialisms, T I T (this is true) as far as I am concerned. If you perceive life as a source of constant angst and strife you cannot enjoy it. Have a little fun here and there. All the best guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 You’re all a bunch of fuoking nerds. rgbilliken likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, billikenfan05 said: You’re all a bunch of fuoking nerds. Better to be a nerd than a 'tard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 You do not need to be a nerd to have a good time, check this video of someone exercising in a treadmill. almaman likes this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlebill Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Quality Is Job 1 said: Better to be a nerd than a 'tard. problematic Box and Won and billikenfan05 like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 40 minutes ago, Littlebill said: problematic Did you expect anything different from him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 On 8/9/2018 at 10:31 AM, GBL_Bills said: I don't want to re-hash Sit 2 here, but a few scenarios that could help explain the fundraising. Majority of the SLU donors don't care about the basketball team all that much and weren't even following Sit 2. This is supported by the newslink article quote stating that most of the donations went straight to academic programs, scholarships, etc. SLU donors supported the university's handling of Sit 2, and Sit 2 didn't negatively affect their desire to donate. Or, the fundraising isn't all that impressive outside of Chaifetz's $27 million, and nothing really has changed whatsoever in terms of donors. Just a higher blip in the normal noise of donations. Chaifetz donationthis year was 15 million. The 27 million is the combined total, he has given in big chunks. It is a good number regardless of how we view Sit 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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