Cowboy Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 -from espn...Men's basketball is likely heading toward reducing its shot clock from 35 to 30 seconds, NCAA rules committee chairman Rick Byrd told ESPN.com on Monday. Byrd, the coach at Belmont, said a year ago that there was a 5 percent chance of the change happening, but he changed his tone Monday. "Now there's a real decent chance," Byrd said. "It's pretty evident a lot more coaches are leaning that way. The opinion of coaches on the shot clock has moved significantly to reducing it from 35 to 30. And all indicators are pointing toward that." The rules committee will meet May 12-15 in Indianapolis and review all the data and surveys on the matter from this past season. The NIT, CBI and CIT postseason tournaments all experimented with the 30-second shot clock this past March. The rules committee can change rules every odd year. -my take, call the fouls consistently and there will be more offense and a better game but the committee will go a different direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 It seems it will put a premium on players that can stop the ball defensively, and offensively minimize turnovers. If you are able to keep a team from scoring on a fast break then you have a better chance, to force a low percentage shot because the offense will have 5 fewer seconds. A good defensive team will be even better.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Don't really think this is a huge change. Let everyone think it's something big so they'll shut up about how "the game is in a terrible place". As long as they don't turn it into the NBA, I couldn't care less about a few minor tweaks. If anything we will only have to watch us pass the ball around the perimeter for 27 seconds rather than 32 before jacking up a bad shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Anybody that thinks the nba is where it's at missed the great bulls vs bucks PLAYOFF game last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Anybody that thinks the nba is where it's at missed the great bulls vs bucks PLAYOFF game last night. You apparently missed the Clippers/Spurs game though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 The problem isn't that the shot clock isn't short enough. The problem is the contact teams are allowed to get away with playing defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 You apparently missed the Clippers/Spurs game though. Hey now, be fair to Roy. He based this fresh, original, insightful, meaningful observation on a sample size of one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clock_Tower Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Once again, all rational thought will be taken out of the game if the shot clock is reduced from 35 seconds, so said Charlie Spoonhour. Spoon was strongly against lowering the clock from 45 to 35 seconds. In the past, teams would go into the 4 corners stall with 10 minutes left in the game. Other teams would not play until teams came out of their zone defense. Therefore, a shot clock was deemed necessary to actually play the game. Playing a deliberate game, with picks and back door cuts (the old Princeton teams come to mind) requires thought and discipline and is part of the game -- unless the shot clock is shortened to the point that such style is no longer possible. Diversity of styles is what is so great about college basketball. Younger teams and those without a good point guard will suffer the most. Talent over systems is being rewarded. Good news for Golliath and bad for David. NBA thug ball with no time for offensive plays and where the stars are protected by the refs is not wildly popular -- and yet that is the goal. Why? And yes, it IS about the shot clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistol Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Don't really think this is a huge change. Let everyone think it's something big so they'll shut up about how "the game is in a terrible place". As long as they don't turn it into the NBA, I couldn't care less about a few minor tweaks. If anything we will only have to watch us pass the ball around the perimeter for 27 seconds rather than 32 before jacking up a bad shot. The 'other' postseason tournaments used a 30-second shot clock and there was no major change in game play or scoring, just a little bit of a pace change. Shooting percentages were unaffected, efficiency was mostly unaffected, and scoring was up a few points per game. So I agree with you, 13. Early returns are that it's probably a marginal improvement over the status quo, which has scoring and pace as low as ever (which is not to say quality is lower than ever). It's a minor tweak that will probably do more good than harm. More info from Ken Pomeroy: http://regressing.deadspin.com/how-has-the-ncaas-new-30-sec-shot-clock-worked-this-pos-1695275647 (Alternatively, you could ignore this analysis and go with Clock Tower's characteristic panic mode - "NBA thug ball," "no time for offensive plays," "talent over systems," and all that nonsense.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 The 'other' postseason tournaments used a 30-second shot clock and there was no major change in game play or scoring, just a little bit of a pace change. Shooting percentages were unaffected, efficiency was mostly unaffected, and scoring was up a few points per game. So I agree with you, 13. Early returns are that it's probably a marginal improvement over the status quo, which has scoring and pace as low as ever (which is not to say quality is lower than ever). It's a minor tweak that will probably do more good than harm. More info from Ken Pomeroy: http://regressing.deadspin.com/how-has-the-ncaas-new-30-sec-shot-clock-worked-this-pos-1695275647 (Alternatively, you could ignore this analysis and go with Clock Tower's characteristic panic mode - "NBA thug ball," "no time for offensive plays," "talent over systems," and all that nonsense.) Thanks for the link to the Pomeroy piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Ugh! As if the Bills didn't have enough shot-clock violations on offense in 2014-15! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Once again, all rational thought will be taken out of the game if the shot clock is reduced from 35 seconds, so said Charlie Spoonhour. Spoon was strongly against lowering the clock from 45 to 35 seconds. In the past, teams would go into the 4 corners stall with 10 minutes left in the game. Other teams would not play until teams came out of their zone defense. Therefore, a shot clock was deemed necessary to actually play the game. Playing a deliberate game, with picks and back door cuts (the old Princeton teams come to mind) requires thought and discipline and is part of the game -- unless the shot clock is shortened to the point that such style is no longer possible. Diversity of styles is what is so great about college basketball. Younger teams and those without a good point guard will suffer the most. Talent over systems is being rewarded. Good news for Golliath and bad for David. NBA thug ball with no time for offensive plays and where the stars are protected by the refs is not wildly popular -- and yet that is the goal. Why? And yes, it IS about the shot clock. Funny post. What is the magic cutoff between thought/discipline and thug ball, exactly? Anything less than 35 seconds? Or are you advocating a return to 45? I don't know what your definition of "wildly popular" is, but the last three years have been the NBA's best ever financially. Do you really think it would be more popular if it added time to the shot clock in attempt to emulate the old Princeton style offense, or even today's college game generally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SluSignGuy Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Our 20 point record will be safe forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Our 20 point record will be safe forever. Not sure about that...didn't the 35 second era produce lower scoring games than the 45 second era (not just SLU/GW but Princeton and Georgia Southern as well)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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