BACKHANDtheRICAN Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 MB- What are your sources telling you about this move to LA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Sources tell me that Kroenke is a goddam weasel douchebag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Sources tell me that Kroenke is a goddam weasel douchebag. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Pine Jim Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Kroenke is the very definition of a weasel. I will be happy to root for the St. Louis Jaguars ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 15 years ago the Walmart brothers in law were thought to be St. Louis' billionaire sports saviors. We were going to ride their obvious rivalry and deep pockets to multiple championships. Now looking back they are both among the worst owners in STL sports history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 A typical case of failed high expectations, wouldn't you agree Torch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The sources say the move is coming at 10 AM tomorrow. Seriously, anyone who expected the Wal-Mart clan to be saviors of anything had a screw loose, and the terms of the lease would have made this outcome inevitable even if the team DIDN'T end up in the hands of one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The sources say the move is coming at 10 AM tomorrow. Seriously, anyone who expected the Wal-Mart clan to be saviors of anything had a screw loose, and the terms of the lease would have made this outcome inevitable even if the team DIDN'T end up in the hands of one of them. Kroenke is the worst. He's never given a d*mn about the fans or the city of STL, all he's thinking about is how much money he's going to make because he capitalized on the ownership situation in 2010. He's trying to blame the move on the fans and low attendance, but what would anyone expect after 10+ years of putting a #### product on the field? He probably planned this all along, piss off the fans so that he can use that as an excuse to move the team. Kroenke can go to hell for all I care, get a new team with an owner who will actually make an effort to put a team with a + .500 record on the field. NFL teams go to die in LA, I can only imagine (and hope for) the catastrophe that will take place with Stan Kroenke as owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SShoe Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The sources say the move is coming at 10 AM tomorrow. Seriously, anyone who expected the Wal-Mart clan to be saviors of anything had a screw loose, and the terms of the lease would have made this outcome inevitable even if the team DIDN'T end up in the hands of one of them. A good lesson in not giving away the farm to make a deal happen. We'll see soon enough if our regional leaders learned that lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The dude is a freak he would walk through the restaurant at the Nuggets arena with his great dane dog on a leash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 Weasel Boy Kroenke will lose his ass on this deal. The NFL will crash in popularity dramatically in 5-10 years, the bloodsucking lawyers with take it down, hundreds and hundreds of concussion cases will finally be brought to trial successfully, I know there has already been an initial settlement for old timers but the whole thing is just at first base. The stories of Junior Seau and others will be common knowledge over time, the league will need to radically change it's rules. 330 pound mutant freaks crashing their helmets at full speed on artificial turf... no more. Plaintiff lawyers are drooling. There will be touch football type rules in place for the QB and WR's to some extent, and they will have to compromise the hard ass look of the current helmets that make them look like glorious military-gladiator-warriors and put safe foam on the outside. Who wants to see that? So Kroenke will lose a billion dollars or so on his LA deal, be down to a measly $ 5 billion net worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I say good riddance to him and the entire kitty league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 As a person who's business needs StL to grow, the Rams leaving is a horrible thing for future corporate development or relocations to here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM28 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 St. Louis Jaguars? Can a city that has lost multiple NFL franchises expect a 3rd chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Maybe, because he's wanted to be here. But, I wouldn't bet any of my money on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 A good lesson in not giving away the farm to make a deal happen. We'll see soon enough if our regional leaders learned that lesson. I'm not sure if it's ironic or eerily appropriate that Bob Blitz and Dave Peacock are the ones being touted as saviors for salvaging the lease fiasco and blocking the move. Blitz was instrumental in caving to the Rams' demands 20 years ago, and Peacock's effort to block the Inbev takeover isn't exactly a promising parallel either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsmith19 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 St. Louis Jaguars? Can a city that has lost multiple NFL franchises expect a 3rd chance? Well, Los Angeles has lost three and is now going to get a fourth chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 As a person who's business needs StL to grow, the Rams leaving is a horrible thing for future corporate development or relocations to here. Agree, it is a real blow to the St. Louis economy to lose an NFL franchise. Professional sports team prestige matters, companies want to be in a town with an NFL team, people want to live here, businesses make money related to the team's activities, jobs are created. We were the 19th largest metropolitan area in the USA last time I recall. The SL economy continues to spiral downward and this is another "hit". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwayne's_World Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Agree, it is a real blow to the St. Louis economy to lose an NFL franchise. Professional sports team prestige matters, companies want to be in a town with an NFL team, people want to live here, businesses make money related to the team's activities, jobs are created. We were the 19th largest metropolitan area in the USA last time I recall. The SL economy continues to spiral downward and this is another "hit". Add this to the long list of tremendous failures by local politicians and city officials. Nothing new here, St. Louis has had horrible leadership for generations. There's a reason why this city never developed like Chicago did going back even to the early 20th century. This city has a long and storied tradition of failing to appoint competent civic leaders. STL's downward spiral as a second class city continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Add this to the long list of tremendous failures by local politicians and city officials. Nothing new here, St. Louis has had horrible leadership for generations. There's a reason why this city never developed like Chicago did going back even to the early 20th century. This city has a long and storied tradition of failing to appoint competent civic leaders. Nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Nailed it.It's more than that. Too many towns, cities, counties, school districts, fire departments (one of the big wastes of all time), police departments, etc. everyone is out for themselves and it's impossible to build a consensus. NIMBY at its worst. The metropolitan area is really challenged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Is the metro area in a better place than it was before the Rams arrived? I would argue it isn't. Did St. Louis die when we had no NFL team? I see no need to spend public money to keep the NFL here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 It's more than that. Too many towns, cities, counties, school districts, fire departments (one of the big wastes of all time), police departments, etc. everyone is out for themselves and it's impossible to build a consensus. NIMBY at its worst. The metropolitan area is really challenged. Which is the result of decades of failed leadership throughout the metro area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almaman Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Is the metro area in a better place than it was before the Rams arrived? I would argue it isn't. Did St. Louis die when we had no NFL team? I see no need to spend public money to keep the NFL here. Years between teams were great for NFL fans who aren't homers except first couple where all we got were Big Red or Chief games. After that we always had 3 games avery afternoon on tv. We are surely not L A but how much has that city's prestige dropped since departure of 2 teams? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 fan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Years between teams were great for NFL fans who aren't homers except first couple where all we got were Big Red or Chief games. After that we always had 3 games avery afternoon on tv. We are surely not L A but how much has that city's prestige dropped since departure of 2 teams?You're kidding, right? Comparing one of the 3 or 4 major cities to StL. Wow!!If anyone thinks losing another NFL team is going to help this metropolitan area add and/or retain quality companies has a much different perspective than I do. The area has the highest "brain drain" of any city in the country. This is only going to continue, which will continue the lack of real growth in the area. An NFL team, by itself, won't change this, but losing another team will only continue the perspective from those outside our area that we are an area with lots of issues. By the way, have you ever heard of the NFL Sunday ticket. You can watch any game you choose. Revolutionary! You might want to try it out next year. Oh wait a minute, that might mean you'll have to spend a buck for something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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