For-DaLove Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 +1. Watch 5-10 years from now when the conferences shake up, SLU will be left in the dust. Marquette, Xavier, etc. may not have D1 programs but they are at least in position where they could more easily start one if it means a ticket into the conference that they want. There is a correlation between good conferences and those with football. Too bad there's zero chance that we could have a BCS caliber football team within the next 10 years. It isn't going to happen! Stop being so delusional people P.S. I love some of the enthusiasm that some of you have for this and our athletic program in general. We just aren't going to have a good D1 football program within the forseeable future which is what we would need to make one of the possible super conferences. The Catholic basketball conference is the best chance we have at an elite conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 again, i have absolutely no problem with a club team. my son played club baseball for slu and i enjoyed the hell out of those games and the students that were part of those teams did a great job not only playing but administering the whole thing. i am all for that kind of approach. but to me, club team means no athletic department support whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbizzle09 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 +1. Watch 5-10 years from now when the conferences shake up, SLU will be left in the dust. Marquette, Xavier, etc. may not have D1 programs but they are at least in position where they could more easily start one if it means a ticket into the conference that they want. There is a correlation between good conferences and those with football. What will help Xavier and Marquette be in good basketball conferences is the fact that they tend to have competitive teams every year. It has nothing to do with their club football teams and doubt any basketball conference would take that into consideration. Do you really think a conference is going to scratch their head about whether or not to take SIUE because they have some of their students are playing football on campus? I don't think so. The thing is, there is a 3 to 1 ratio of D-1 basketball schools compared to FBS schools. There are more schools trying to become D-1 in basketball every season, more than schools moving up to FBS. There are ALWAYS going to be basketball only conferences in D-1. Why not have SLU put together a successful basketball program first before going for pie in the sky notions about building a football program? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk18 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 again, i have absolutely no problem with a club team. my son played club baseball for slu and i enjoyed the hell out of those games and the students that were part of those teams did a great job not only playing but administering the whole thing. i am all for that kind of approach. but to me, club team means no athletic department support whatsoever. Like conferences will never shake up ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurking Dog Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Club football is great if it satisfies demand among current students. On the other hand, nonscholarship NCAA football (e.g. Pioneer Football League) would be the better choice if you want to increase male enrollment and tuition revenue. The NCAA brand is the way to attract 100+ male students who would otherwise take their money elsewhere. A few years ago the PFL, Ivy League, and the Northeast Conference (Duquesne et al.) were nonscholarship D-I leagues. With the NEC now allowing scholarships, only the PFL and Ivy remain nonscholarship (Patriot League athletic departments actually buy out student loans for football players). How do you develop Ivy League-type tradition? It starts with getting a team. So, in the Midwest, the PFL is the only affordable show in town. Typical team budget is under a million bucks. Tuition revenue is typically 2.5 mil, making a subsidy worthwhile. A proper facility for at least 5,000 spectators would be a private funding challenge for SLU. PFL member Butler has renovated its football stadium; no apparent harm to the basketball program, either. Mercer and Stetson are starting teams that will be on the field in 2013. St. Louis can do this. http://pflfan.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someoneelse Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 As a Fordham grad, '91, I can say that adding football is not recommended. On such a small student body, it puts too many athletes on campus, diluting other aspects of college life. I went there when there were no scholarships, so they were students who happened to play football. Throw in scholarships and, well, it changes things. I recently went back for my 20 year reunion, and not one fine memory involved Jack Coffey Field. It just wasn't part of my campus life and I really enjoyed going to school in the Bronx. Signed, Someone who screamed 'FU' a lot in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Why does Fordham field a football team? Among the answers- the alumni want it, and it adds to the college experience. Fordham competes for students with schools such as Boston College, Villanova, and Holy Cross, all of whom have football. Fordham is increasing its commitment to college football, and is in its second year of being a FCS scholarship program. If Fordham can have football, so could SLU have football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Why does Fordham field a football team? Among the answers- the alumni want it, and it adds to the college experience. Fordham competes for students with schools such as Boston College, Villanova, and Holy Cross, all of whom have football. Fordham is increasing its commitment to college football, and is in its second year of being a FCS scholarship program. If Fordham can have football, so could SLU have football. Two words - Vince Lombardi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk18 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Two words - Vince Lombardi two words: forward pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 two words: forward passTwo word: Nobody knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Two word: Nobody knows.Two words: Two words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Two words: Two words. Two words: HATE HATE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Two Words: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Two Words: Three sentences. Six Words: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Three sentences. Six Words: hahaha +1000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Area Billiken Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 I had best not ask for a translation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbizzle09 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I had best not ask for a translation. I translate it as: Willie Reed Applebee's X-Box And this seems like the perfect place for this thread to end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbofive Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I translate it as: Willie Reed Applebee's X-Box And this seems like the perfect place for this thread to end! Or reading top to bottom, left to right, I guess you could translate it as: Willie Nelson smoked an apple bong and got all monkeyed out, then ended up with a kid because of some sweet box. Whatever you need to get you through till next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Two words: It's Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufan13 Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 And this seems like the perfect place for this thread to end! can't believe Pomeroy ranked us so low preseason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Two words: It's Tuesday. LETS GOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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