billikenbilly Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Anyone know why Painter would leave Purdue to go to MU? Are Missouri fans that delusional or is there some truth to it? Does this mean we have a shot with Otto Porter or has that ship sailed? This means McLemore is likely to be at Kansas next year if they can doctor his transcripts without getting caught. NH - you were wrong about McLemore having the grades to play here. He couldn't even cut it at Oak Hill and was booted from school there. I hardly think he was going to get into SLU. Maybe RM knows what he's doing when he backs off kids like McLemore and BJ Young. http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-jayhawks/2011/2/21/2006048/ben-mclemore-kansas-missouri-basketball-recruit-dismissed-oak-hill-academy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted March 26, 2011 Share Posted March 26, 2011 Anyone know why Painter would leave Purdue to go to MU? Are Missouri fans that delusional or is there some truth to it? Does this mean we have a shot with Otto Porter or has that ship sailed? This means McLemore is likely to be at Kansas next year if they can doctor his transcripts without getting caught. NH - you were wrong about McLemore having the grades to play here. He couldn't even cut it at Oak Hill and was booted from school there. I hardly think he was going to get into SLU. Maybe RM knows what he's doing when he backs off kids like McLemore and BJ Young. http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-jayhawks/2011/2/21/2006048/ben-mclemore-kansas-missouri-basketball-recruit-dismissed-oak-hill-academy Media's just throwing out painter because he's a good coach that doesn't make a ton of money (relative to the numbers being thrown around for mike anderson). Most Mizzou fans realize that there's no way in hell he's leaving his alma mater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Media's just throwing out painter because he's a good coach that doesn't make a ton of money (relative to the numbers being thrown around for mike anderson). Most Mizzou fans realize that there's no way in hell he's leaving his alma mater. He amazingly has no buyout from what I understand. I get the feeling like he's just using Mizzou to get a little more money out of Purdue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lefty Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 He amazingly has no buyout from what I understand. I get the feeling like he's just using Mizzou to get a little more money out of Purdue.the buyout is $750K until July 1, then -0-. Anderson owes Mizzou $550K for his Buyout. Probably is a leverage deal but when someone like that expresses interest, they have to respond. Now, they're geared up to pay in excess of $2 Million a year, they might as well aim high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franchise_08 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...Don't care Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo027 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...Don't care Agreed. http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/list.php?board=1 <---- for people who want to talk about Mizzou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triangle andToo Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Interesting short discussion. Mizzou as well as SLU represents what is going on in hiring coaches. Mizzou hired a coach that had very strong ties with a certain university (Arkansas) - SLU hired a coach with strong ties too the west coast and his university (Washington). Coaches are waiting for other coaches too fail - Bender, Pelphrey - in order too get their dream job. Romar has now his dream job and Anderson has his dream job - Painter already has his dream job playing as a point guard in 3 NCAA tournaments for Purdue. Money maybe for the future, but Triangle would bet that there is not one single basketball player that their dream job is something other than coaching his former playing team. Some people might want too yawn and saw logs over this discussion but it is extremely revelant too hiring coaches in this atmosphere. Why hasn't 1 former SLU player entered intoo the college coaching ranks? Where are they? Yes our Billikens can hire an older experienced coach with a Jesuit connection - but. Our Billikens are doomed too coaching and recruiting mediocrity because we have no coaching legacy. Former Billiken players might WANT too coach this team but they have shown no job progression in this matter. Coach Majerus, we were very lucky, but in reality, we need a legacy coach not a stop gap. so it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Interesting short discussion. Mizzou as well as SLU represents what is going on in hiring coaches. Mizzou hired a coach that had very strong ties with a certain university (Arkansas) - SLU hired a coach with strong ties too the west coast and his university (Washington). Coaches are waiting for other coaches too fail - Bender, Pelphrey - in order too get their dream job. Romar has now his dream job and Anderson has his dream job - Painter already has his dream job playing as a point guard in 3 NCAA tournaments for Purdue. Money maybe for the future, but Triangle would bet that there is not one single basketball player that their dream job is something other than coaching his former playing team. Some people might want too yawn and saw logs over this discussion but it is extremely revelant too hiring coaches in this atmosphere. Why hasn't 1 former SLU player entered intoo the college coaching ranks? Where are they? Yes our Billikens can hire an older experienced coach with a Jesuit connection - but. Our Billikens are doomed too coaching and recruiting mediocrity because we have no coaching legacy. Former Billiken players might WANT too coach this team but they have shown no job progression in this matter. Coach Majerus, we were very lucky, but in reality, we need a legacy coach not a stop gap. so it goes. How many former Mizzou players have entered the D1 coaching ranks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triangle andToo Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 That is exactly the point!!!!!!! Universities keep hiring coaches without scope, without the future prospects of THAT coach's future. The writing was always on the wall for Coach Romar and Coach Anderson - the aspects of the situations are very similar and both universities are guilty of of hiring coaches with absolutely no local ties. Now why is that? Why is there college players in this state that choose not too go intoo the college coaching profession in this state, both at SLU and MIZZOU? There is no reason for Coach Painter too come too Mizzou except for the finacial future of his family. There is no reason for a coach too take over our Billiken program except for a short financial gain, there is no Billiken legacy. so it goes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 That is exactly the point!!!!!!! Universities keep hiring coaches without scope, without the future prospects of THAT coach's future. The writing was always on the wall for Coach Romar and Coach Anderson - the aspects of the situations are very similar and both universities are guilty of of hiring coaches with absolutely no local ties. Now why is that? Why is there college players in this state that choose not too go intoo the college coaching profession in this state, both at SLU and MIZZOU? There is no reason for Coach Painter too come too Mizzou except for the finacial future of his family. There is no reason for a coach too take over our Billiken program except for a short financial gain, there is no Billiken legacy. so it goes Jamall Walker will carry our Billiken legacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Hoops Insider Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Interesting short discussion. Mizzou as well as SLU represents what is going on in hiring coaches. Mizzou hired a coach that had very strong ties with a certain university (Arkansas) - SLU hired a coach with strong ties too the west coast and his university (Washington). Coaches are waiting for other coaches too fail - Bender, Pelphrey - in order too get their dream job. Romar has now his dream job and Anderson has his dream job - Painter already has his dream job playing as a point guard in 3 NCAA tournaments for Purdue. Money maybe for the future, but Triangle would bet that there is not one single basketball player that their dream job is something other than coaching his former playing team. Some people might want too yawn and saw logs over this discussion but it is extremely revelant too hiring coaches in this atmosphere. Why hasn't 1 former SLU player entered intoo the college coaching ranks? Where are they? Yes our Billikens can hire an older experienced coach with a Jesuit connection - but. Our Billikens are doomed too coaching and recruiting mediocrity because we have no coaching legacy. Former Billiken players might WANT too coach this team but they have shown no job progression in this matter. Coach Majerus, we were very lucky, but in reality, we need a legacy coach not a stop gap. so it goes. Former Billiken player Phillip Hunt is a head men's basketball coach across the street at Harris-Stowe State Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLfan Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 It is probably just Painter looking for a raise however after learning more about the situation, Painter going to Mizzou isn't as crazy as I first thought. Supposedly Painter and the AD at Purdue don't have the best relationship and they just redid Painter's contract last season and they are still only paying him a 1.3 million base salary which is only the eighth highest paid in the Big Ten. That's pretty low for a coach as accomplished as Painter and Mizzou is rumored to be offering 2 million or more. Also why would Painter negotiate a low buyout that goes to zero in July if he was planning on sticking around long term? The facilities at Purdue aren't very impressive (though they are doing some upgrading) and there is a lot more instate competition with Indiana, Notre Dame, and Butler than he would have at Missouri. Painter's wife is also from Southern Illinois and Painter recruited St. Louis quite a bit when he was at SIUC as an assistant and as a head coach so he is familiar with the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 It is probably just Painter looking for a raise however after learning more about the situation, Painter going to Mizzou isn't as crazy as I first thought. Supposedly Painter and the AD at Purdue don't have the best relationship and they just redid Painter's contract last season and they are still only paying him a 1.3 million base salary which is only the eighth highest paid in the Big Ten. That's pretty low for a coach as accomplished as Painter and Mizzou is rumored to be offering 2 million or more. Also why would Painter negotiate a low buyout that goes to zero in July if he was planning on sticking around long term? The facilities at Purdue aren't very impressive (though they are doing some upgrading) and there is a lot more instate competition with Indiana, Notre Dame, and Butler than he would have at Missouri. Painter's wife is also from Southern Illinois and Painter recruited St. Louis quite a bit when he was at SIUC as an assistant and as a head coach so he is familiar with the area. All you say is true - but if we are led to believe that the "tug" to coach at the school you played for is so strong that coaches will mislead/lie about their intentions even just the day before they announce they are leaving for their alma mater then all of the reasons you post above is only window dressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 All you say is true - but if we are led to believe that the "tug" to coach at the school you played for is so strong that coaches will mislead/lie about their intentions even just the day before they announce they are leaving for their alma mater then all of the reasons you post above is only window dressing. It seems that the natural thought for these coaches is that coaching at their alma mater (or in anderson's case a place where they were an assistant forever), but I have to think that for some coaches it doesn't matter what their alma mater is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 It seems that the natural thought for these coaches is that coaching at their alma mater (or in anderson's case a place where they were an assistant forever), but I have to think that for some coaches it doesn't matter what their alma mater is. Painter to Mizzou is gaining steam now. Still seems like at most a 50/50 shot but the carousel could be getting more interesting should that happen with Cuonzo (another purdue target should painter leave) going to tennessee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Painter to Mizzou is gaining steam now. Still seems like at most a 50/50 shot but the carousel could be getting more interesting should that happen with Cuonzo (another purdue target should painter leave) going to tennessee. Gene Keady is coming back to West Lafayette. Fear the comb-over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Gene Keady is coming back to West Lafayette. Fear the comb-over. Between Keady and Lavin Purdue has certainly had some terrifying hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Between Keady and Lavin Purdue has certainly had some terrifying hair. Sat next to Gene at the 2005 Rupp Awards luncheon in STL during the Final Four weekend. The man must use an axe to part his hair. It's precision that would have made Michelangelo jealous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Purdue might be the cheapest major college basketball program in the country. I have always wanted to see a program draw a line in the sand when it comes to this stuff, but we will see how this works out for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Purdue might be the cheapest major college basketball program in the country. from 2002-2007 you could say the same about SLU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 from 2002-2007 you could say the same about SLU. People are now reporting that Matt Painter has agreed to become the next head coach at mizzou. 7 yrs/14 million. I'll believe it when I see him on a podium with a tiger on it but twitter's blowing up with it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizziken Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 http://kansascity.sbnation.com/missouri-tigers/2011/3/28/2077704/matt-painter-missouri-purdue Looks like that reporter is backing off his story...at least for the time being Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 People are now reporting that Matt Painter has agreed to become the next head coach at mizzou. 7 yrs/14 million. I'll believe it when I see him on a podium with a tiger on it but twitter's blowing up with it right now. The mass use of twitter to "report" the latest rumors is truly amazing. Journalistic integrity has long since gone away with the internet and blogs and the need to be first to report a story but with twitter its gone to the next level as all you need to do is tweet one thing and it gets retweeted to hundred others...then twitter is blowing up and "Painter to MU" is trending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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