cheesycow

I moved to New York for about 5 years and got super out of touch with college basketball altogether. Back in STL these days.

It's not a unique situation to Mizzou, as APR affects all teams and their transfers the same way. The reason it's such a big issue now though is because of how much exodus their was when KA was hired. Those transfers put mizzou in a more precarious spot APR wise.

I don't take this personally.

I love billikens.com. I get older and it stays the same.

I feel like you're making that up? St. Louis ponied for the Eads while Chicago lawmakers attempted to block the plan.

You're probably correct. I guess my feeling is probably based on my own perceptions of cities I've never been to or heard much about based on how many teams they have.

Yeah. It's so crazy that they still attempt to have Cardinals, Blues, and Billikens games in such a rough area.

I'm not an economist so I can't truly say this for sure but it was my experience in living downtown that the Dome anchored a lot of development downtown, which has in turn indirectly led to a small but vibrant startup boom in and around Washington Ave. I'm not saying that losing the Rams would be catastrophic to those efforts, but I can't imagine it would help.

It's just amazing how much the cost has risen in the last 10 years. Tuition for me at Mizzou was around 5k as an Missouri resident. It's now doubled. I seem to recall SLU being closer to 20k? I'm a little fuzzier but that's roughly doubled as well. Has the value of an undergraduate degree doubled? I really don't think it has.

A terrible load of bull, and with 38k a year representing "value" I wouldn't be surprised if there are plenty of SLU alumni who are perfectly happy when their children elect to go to some of the fine public institutions in the state of Missouri. Most of my peers (who went to both private and state schools) are just now, almost a decade out of college, making more than that a year.

Obviously I'll never be a Quin Snyder fan, but it's hard to denigrate the path he had to take to this point. He was pounded by fans and media alike on his way out from Mizzou, took his lumps in the NBDL, Europe, and as an assistant and is highly regarded by people like Popovich now. Perhaps the pro game was always better suited for Quin. College certainly wasn't.

My bad, dog.

I like debate. This isn't the only board I go to but in general I like most of the people on here, especially the ones I've had the pleasure of meeting in person. Just because we disagree on lots of things (most notably SLU v Mizzou) doesn't mean I don't enjoy the back and forth. I also enjoy reading what other people have to say. Suffice it to say my day isn't predicated on winning arguments on here but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy the act of doing it. Same reason people respond to me I'd guess.

How many communication majors on SLU's bball team?

He's a troll but it's good to be trolled by him. The fact that he talks about SLU at all speaks to the increase in recognition the program receives now.

You don't honestly believe that, do you?

We're no more "begging" kansas than SLU fans are "begging" Mizzou. Oh, and by the way, PLAY US A FRIGGIN HOME AND HOME! MU's move to the SEC has brought so much money and relevance to the athletic department as a whole. We get as much money as Alabama and LSU from day one, not begging for Texas' scraps. Texas created the instability by assuming they owned the other 11 schools. The instability existed long before B1G expansion, that just exacerbated it. Leave it to you to try to talk smack on Mizzou "settling" for the SEC. SLU is in the unenviable position of hoping to hear from a shattered Big East and I should be ashamed that my school joined the most powerful athletic conference in the country?

I think my autobiography might be entitled "I can tell most things but find MB73's incoherent rambling to be incomprehensible."

It's astounding how warped your opinion is. You're describing Mizzou basketball like it's still in the end of the Quin era. It's not anymore. Leaving the Big 12 had nothing to do with Basketball, no one is "begging" to play kansas, and overall the move continues to prove to be a wildly successful one. Sure Mizzou fans would love to play Kansas in both football and basketball but we're not exactly crying over it. I know that for SLU the college sports landscape begins and ends with basketball but for most schools it begins and ends with football. I know you hate Mizzou. I get it. Pretending we're in way worse shape than we are is what's ridiculous. We're one year removed from a run of 5 straight tournament appearances. That's embarassing? kansas and SLU playing a home and home wouldn't stick it to Mizzou, by the way.

The fact that you guys see that as an abject failure when we had losing seasons within the last 10 years is a success in and of itself. I don't expect you guys to not twist my words (nowhere did I say that we were on par with Duke, just that upsets happen to everybody), but I do expect you guys to use a modicum of sensibility when trying to disparage your "rivals." SLU is on top right now, and deservedly so, but if the bills win 23 games this year and just narrowly miss out on the tournament I don't think anybody would say to themselves "This program is in a disaster state right now."

Sure that's why I said he wasn't amazing, but most schools would love to win 75% of their games.

Duke lost to a 15 that year too. Program is a disgrace, obviously.

I know Haith wasn't amazing and missing the tournament sucked but did everyone here suddenly start thinking that winning just shy of 75% of your games is terrible suddenly? Mizzou really has come a long way from the Quin Era if that's the best you can do.

I think you can certainly point to what happened with Price, as well as just the nature of an unknown at HC. I think this year it's anyone guess who will have a better season but I don't look at Mizzou's roster and say "they're in good shape." Building blocks are there for sure especially with Gant and Wright staying on but so many question marks.

or MB73 was an executive at a fortune 500 company in 1951.