ACE Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Does the fall signing period end Wednesday? Where's pdiddy when you need him. The streets are way too quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 yes it does Official Billikens.com sponsor of H Waldman Official Sponser of Slu72's bid to join the Billiken Blue Kool Aid Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/bask...uits/index.html http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/bask...uits/index.html See the above links for whose getting the most talent out of MO and IL over the past 4 years. We're not a blip nor were any of our players. Of course TL and KL will show the world this year that UB didn't do too bad in ILL. Discouraging we're not even mentioned as a player in our home state. Of course, we never had a chance at Tyler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardball Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Many people here will not think this report is a problem at all. But without good recruiting the program will suffer bigtime. What is funny though is if Romar hadn't left when he did SLU would have probably snagged Grimes by all reports. Then SLU would have tied with MU for most recruits by an in-state school. And who said we can't compete with MU for recruits. Going into the future with recruiting Mike Anderson is going to be a formidale foe. I hope our staff is upto the challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorB Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Your choice of words may be a problem, too. What do you mean by problem?? I think just about anyone on this list would like to see more visible recruits. Everyone, in fact, with even a shred of credibility. Is that the problem?? I think the coaching staff also views this as an area of special emphasis, and one in which they want to have yearly success. Do our coaches view not making this list to be a "problem"?? Probably not--especially since they are brain-dead enough to omit TL and KL while they do list a recruit to IUPUI. Do our coaches and everyone else want us to sign solid recruits like those listed above every year? Well, duh, I suppose so. Who should we blame for failing to ink Pullen or the others this year, in your opinion? What exactly IS the "Problem"?? You seem to know, so tell us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 "But without good recruiting the program will suffer bigtime." I think most folks on this board are aware of the above truism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Hardball is a master baitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleBilliken Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 NM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Haven't you criticized and censored some in the recent past (most notably, metz) for posting childish and otherwise irrelevant items? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 year's recruiting strategy. 4 Jr's return, 2 soph's return, 4 frosh return....9 scholie players. Why give out 1-3 scholies to players you don't think are going to be serious upgrades from what's returning. Now if any of the above suffer a severe injury, flunk out, transfer, or otherwise can't play...well, he may find himself shorthanded next year. I think he'll try and land 1 or 2 in the spring. It will probably be someone they are watching right now, either JUCO or HS Senior, and waiting to see how they perform...the dreaded 7-8 views evaluation period? It's in UB's hands not ours...so, let's just sit back and enjoy what should be a very good season for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slu72 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Agreed, Hardball posts legit questions, logical concerns, rarely slams anyone, and he gets hammered just about every time he posts. For all you guys jumping on his case....Penalty! Unsportsmanlike posting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleBilliken Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 "It's in UB's hands not ours...so, let's just sit back and enjoy what should be a very good season for us" Exactly, 72. I don't understand the people who say we accept mediocrity, we strive to be mediocre, we don't hold the staff accountable. We can't do anything about the fact that Brad hasn't signed a recruit. I don't think anybody can. I'm sure Cheryl has discussed her concern with Brad about recruiting. I'm sure there is a sense in the AD that fans are concerned about no signatures. But I gotta say, Brad has to have a plan. He has assembled arguably the greatest Billiken team of ALL TIME. One pundit has us going farther than any team in Billiken history. I just don't see how that is a fluke. College basketball is a very rough industry...a bumbling idiot can't just stumble upon a NCAA tourney team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basketbill Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I find it interesting that KL and TL are not listed in the Illinois list, but Terry evans is listed in the missouri list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Poor, Poor, harball. He's just missunderstood....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 >"It's in UB's hands not ours...so, let's just sit back and >enjoy what should be a very good season for us" > >Exactly, 72. > >I don't understand the people who say we accept mediocrity, >we strive to be mediocre, we don't hold the staff >accountable. We can't do anything about the fact that Brad >hasn't signed a recruit. I don't think anybody can. I'm sure >Cheryl has discussed her concern with Brad about recruiting. >I'm sure there is a sense in the AD that fans are concerned >about no signatures. But I gotta say, Brad has to have a >plan. He has assembled arguably the greatest Billiken team >of ALL TIME. One pundit has us going farther than any team >in Billiken history. I just don't see how that is a fluke. >College basketball is a very rough industry...a bumbling >idiot can't just stumble upon a NCAA tourney team. The greatest Billiken team of all-time? I hope you're right. I only go back to the Spooball era and I know some of the guys on here go way back in SLU history, but I find that statement hard to believe. Spoon had three teams that got at-large bids and a couple of teams that spent quite a bit of time in the Top 25 during the regular season. I'm not sure this team is as good as Clagget, Waldman and co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 ace, i think it has the workings of being better than the claggett highmark teams simply because of ian. spoon never had a center. lisch and liddell have what it takes to be at least the equals of any spoon guard tandem imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 >ace, i think it has the workings of being better than the >claggett highmark teams simply because of ian. spoon never >had a center. > >lisch and liddell have what it takes to be at least the >equals of any spoon guard tandem imo. We don't have the shooting those teams had, but WHEN we crack the top 25 this year and earn a #7 at-large seed into the NCAA Tourney, I will be very, very, very happy to agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardball Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 SLU'72 thanks for the support. I am not sure some will ever see the relevance of any of my thoughts but IMO to totally keep your head in the sand for the quick fix of one successful season is ridiculous. I posed these same concerns two months ago when schools where getting early commits while SLU sat silent and lost recruit after recruit. I even pointed out that SIU had their recruiting class finished. All I ever heard was wait until the period is over. Well now those some posters are rationalizing waiting to the spring and sitting back and enjoying the season. Are the Stay the Course supporters so hungry for success under this regime that they're willing to shut their eyes to our recruiting deficiencies just to sit back and enjoy ONE SEASON? If we don't demand more accountability this situation will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahok Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Each recruting clas should feed off of the previous class, We should be feeding off of the class from last year and we are not. We are two injuries away from being a 20 loss year instead of a 20 win year. For those that think that Brad has has built off of last year take either Tommie and Kevin out, or one of them and Ian and tell me who can replace any of those three. I just don't see where we have built off of any sucess from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Take the top three player off of every team in the us and I'd think we'd still be decent. You are not being fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlecat455 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Even assuming you are correct, what remedy do you propose? Should we fire the Coach one game into the season or wait until the team is eliminated from the NCAA tournament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahok Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 That is not what I meant, Good teams have recruits that have ablity to step in and not go from a winning team to a losing team. If we lost two of our stars to injury who do we have that could step in and keep us from being a losing team. Who did we sign that could step in? You build teams from one recruiting class to another and we have not done that. I am just not happy with building off of the Tommie and Kevin class, maybe all of you see something I haven't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 How many of the Valley teams teams could survive losing thier top two players? I don't think any of them could. Unless you are KU, Duke, UNC, or another traditional power you don't have those players. That is what truly seperates the top 10 programs from the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahok Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I thought you didn't want to be compared to a Valley team, All I was getting at is that we have not signed anyone with abilty comparable to Tommie and Kevin, How do you maintain momentum when you don't sign comparable players each year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I never said I didn't want to be compared to a valley team. I would live to have the success CU has had over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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