kwyjibo Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 I calculated the following (unfortunately I have not had a lot of time lately to do more). In a way it speaks for itself. Note that SLU's average RPI is 78 (which is not the same as being the 78th ranked team over the last 10 years). They are the 58th best team RPI-wise over the last ten years. Various people have tried to put SLU's recent past into perspective without being very objective or understanding the whole of college basketball. For example, Rammer's "Mizzou and SLU are on different planets" (Mizzou has had more success but unless you throw out 250 teams they are more accurately on different continents but definitely on the same planet) or even worse "SLU should aspire to be a top 100 program"(ahem, SLU is--easily). I will be making a few other observations using historical data over the next month as well (am planning to look at how conference changes will tip the power scales and on exactly how RPI fits into tourney selection). This is all depending on interest as well. If you have other ideas just email me. Bottom line is that Saint Louis University has had success (there is also plenty of room to go up but I think one must also understand where you are). They do lack corresponding publicity with their level of success however. Average RPI from 93-94 to 02-03 1 Kentucky 5.3 2 Kansas 7.7 3 Arizona 9.6 4 Duke 13.5 5 Cincinnati 14.7 6 Maryland 18.6 7 Connecticut 22.3 8 Indiana 22.5 9 North Carolina 24.8 10 Wake Forest 25.3 11 Oklahoma 26.4 12 Stanford 26.5 13 Syracuse 28.1 14 Illinois 28.7 15 Michigan St 28.7 16 UCLA 30.2 17 Purdue 30.9 18 Oklahoma St 32.4 19 Texas 36.1 20 Temple 37.1 21 Villanova 38.9 22 Arkansas 40.0 22 Utah 40.0 24 Louisville 41.6 25 Missouri 42.4 26 Tulsa 42.6 27 Florida 43.7 28 Charlotte 44.4 29 Wisconsin 46.4 30 Virginia 53.1 31 Xavier 53.1 32 Georgia 56.4 33 California 56.5 34 Minnesota 57.2 35 Alabama 57.9 35 Marquette 57.9 37 Iowa 59.7 38 Georgetown 61.1 39 Mississippi St 61.3 40 St. John's 62.1 41 Michigan 64.4 42 New Mexico 65.7 43 Georgia Tech 67.1 44 Massachusetts 67.2 45 Coll of Charleston 68.5 46 Vanderbilt 68.5 47 Auburn 68.7 48 Iowa State 68.7 49 Fresno St 69.3 50 Providence 69.6 51 Gonzaga 70.7 52 Memphis 71.1 53 Oregon 72.8 54 North Carolina St 73.7 55 Tennessee 74.7 56 Saint Joseph's 74.7 57 Butler 75.0 58 Saint Louis 78.2 59 Nebraska 78.3 60 Mississippi 78.7 61 South Carolina 80.0 62 Notre Dame 81.5 63 Boston College 84.3 64 Pittsburgh 84.3 65 Seton Hall 84.3 66 George Wash 87.5 67 Texas Tech 87.6 68 Ohio State 87.8 69 Miami-Ohio 88.1 70 Arizona St 89.2 71 Florida St 89.6 72 Southern Ill 89.9 73 BYU 90.8 74 Hawaii 90.8 75 Miami-Florida 91.0 76 UAB 93.1 77 Clemson 93.8 78 Princeton 94.2 79 LSU 94.3 80 Kansas St 96.1 81 Pennsylvania 96.2 82 Utah St 96.3 83 Southern Cal 96.7 84 Rutgers 96.8 85 Wyoming 97.6 86 UNLV 97.8 87 Colorado 99.4 88 Ball State 99.5 89 Detroit 101.0 90 SMS 103.2 91 Drexel 103.5 92 Southern Miss 103.6 93 Creighton 103.8 94 Weber St 103.8 95 Ohio 104.3 96 Illinois St 104.7 97 TCU 104.8 98 West Virginia 104.9 99 Colorado St 105.5 100 Penn State 107.2 101 Western Ky 108.1 102 Murray St 110.5 103 Bradley 110.9 104 New Mexico St 111.0 105 St. Bonaventure 112.4 106 DePaul 113.6 107 UNC Wilmington 113.9 108 Bowling Green 114.3 109 Valparaiso 114.3 110 Dayton 115.6 111 Tulane 116.0 112 Washington 116.5 113 Santa Clara 117.4 114 Kent St 121.2 115 Toledo 121.6 116 South Florida 124.0 117 Delaware 128.9 118 UL-Lafayette 129.3 119 Rhode Island 130.1 120 Pepperdine 130.3 121 VCU 130.4 122 SMU 131.6 123 Virginia Tech 132.5 124 Richmond 132.7 125 Evansville 132.8 126 Wis-Green Bay 133.9 127 Davidson 134.5 128 San Diego 136.8 129 Western Mich 139.0 130 Illinois-Chi 140.9 131 New Orleans 142.1 132 UTEP 142.7 133 Iona 143.8 134 Boise St 146.7 135 Rider 147.8 136 Old Dominion 148.0 137 Manhattan 149.3 138 Siena 150.3 139 Chattanooga 150.3 140 Baylor 150.6 141 San Francisco 151.8 142 Washington St 152.0 143 Canisius 153.2 144 Pacific 153.7 145 Nevada 155.9 146 Eastern Mich 156.8 147 Boston U 157.6 148 Rice 158.1 149 South Alabama 158.1 150 Marshall 158.3 151 Montana St 158.8 152 Texas A&M 160.6 153 Montana 161.1 154 La Salle 164.6 155 Oregon St 166.5 156 Austin Peay 166.5 157 George Mason 167.5 158 Long Beach 168.0 159 Wichita St 168.3 160 Northwestern 168.9 161 Marist 168.9 162 La Tech 170.4 163 Fairfield 171.6 164 Ark-Little Rock 172.0 165 Hofstra 173.6 166 Monmouth 173.8 167 Houston 173.9 168 Indiana St 173.9 169 James Madison 173.9 170 East Carolina 175.1 171 San Diego St 176.8 172 UL-Monroe 177.2 173 Maine 177.9 174 Niagara 178.3 175 Arkansas St 179.3 176 Coppin St 179.3 177 Northern Iowa 180.1 178 Samford 182.1 179 Northern Ariz 182.4 180 Appalachian St 183.5 181 Georgia St 186.6 182 UC Santa Barbara 187.3 183 South Carolina St 187.4 184 UC Irvine 188.3 185 Oral Roberts 188.5 186 Duquesne 189.5 187 Wright St 189.5 188 St. Mary's 190.3 189 Navy 191.2 190 Vermont 191.4 191 Eastern Ill 192.2 192 Akron 193.0 193 Wis-Milwaukee 194.2 194 Fairleigh Dickinson 194.3 195 UNC Greensboro 194.7 196 UCF 195.2 197 Tennessee Tech 196.2 198 Cleveland St 196.3 199 Troy St 196.9 200 SW Texas St 196.9 201 Idaho 197.3 202 CS Northridge 197.8 203 East Tenn St 198.0 204 McNeese St 200.1 205 Radford 200.6 206 San Jose St 201.1 207 Northern Ill 201.5 208 Hartford 201.6 209 Wagner 201.9 210 Drake 202.7 211 Florida Intl 202.9 212 Jacksonville 202.9 213 Colgate 204.6 214 TX-San Antonio 205.9 215 Eastern Wash 206.1 216 Middle Tenn St 206.6 217 Portland 209.4 218 St. Peter's 209.7 219 SE Missouri St 211.0 220 Holy Cross 211.4 221 Mt St. Mary's 212.3 222 Central Conn 213.3 223 Lamar 213.7 224 St. Francis-NY 213.8 225 UNC Asheville 214.3 226 Bucknell 214.6 227 Sam Houston 215.0 228 Towson 215.1 229 Loyola-Chicago 215.5 230 Air Force 215.9 231 American 216.1 232 Idaho St 216.3 233 Central Mich 217.8 234 Harvard 218.9 235 Lafayette 219.1 236 Nicholls St 219.4 237 Fordham 221.8 238 Western Ill 222.2 239 Brown 222.6 240 St. Francis-PA 222.8 241 Southern Utah 222.9 242 William & Mary 223.2 243 Loyola-Maryland 223.4 244 Hampton 225.2 245 Jackson St 226.3 246 Tennessee St 227.1 247 Winthrop 227.2 248 UMBC 229.1 249 UMKC 229.2 250 Texas Southern 229.6 251 Long Island 229.7 252 North Texas 230.0 253 Dartmouth 232.2 254 Morehead St 232.4 255 Buffalo 232.7 256 Miss Valley St 232.9 257 Alcorn St 233.1 258 Liberty 234.1 259 Loyola-Marymount 234.1 260 Georgia So 235.2 261 Stephen F. Austin 235.3 262 Northwestern St 235.5 263 Youngstown St 235.7 264 Northeastern 236.1 265 TX-Arlington 236.5 266 Charleston So 236.6 267 TX-Pan American 237.4 268 Yale 238.1 269 New Hampshire 240.0 270 Stetson 240.2 271 Mercer 241.4 272 Furman 242.0 273 Western Car 242.3 274 Alabama St 245.2 275 Cal Poly 245.3 276 The Citadel 248.4 277 Campbell 249.0 278 North Carolina A&T 249.9 279 Robert Morris 249.9 280 VMI 250.0 281 Centenary 250.1 282 CS Fullerton 251.4 283 Tenn-Martin 253.8 284 Florida Atl 255.0 285 Jacksonville St 255.0 286 Southern U 256.1 287 Oakland 258.7 288 Cornell 262.9 289 Eastern Ky 264.1 290 Wofford 264.7 291 SE Louisiana 265.0 292 Quinnipiac 265.4 293 Columbia 268.5 294 Bethune-Cookman 268.9 295 Portland St 269.2 296 IUPUI 270.2 297 Coastal Carolina 271.3 298 Belmont 273.1 299 Delaware St 273.1 300 Norfolk St 274.0 301 Lehigh 274.0 302 MD-East Shore 276.2 303 Alabama A&M 277.3 304 Howard 278.8 305 Florida A&M 278.9 306 Grambling 281.2 307 Denver 282.2 308 Morgan St 282.3 309 Stony Brook 287.7 310 Prairie View A&M 287.8 311 Army 289.3 312 Sacramento St 289.7 313 Elon 290.6 314 Chicago St 292.5 315 Birmingham Southern 296.0 316 TAMU-CC 297.4 317 Binghamton 298.6 318 Sacred Heart 300.8 319 UC Riverside 302.9 320 High Point 303.0 321 Albany 303.7 322 IPFW 308.2 323 Gardner-Webb 309.8 324 Ark-Pine Bluff 309.9 325 Morris Brown 310.6 326 Lipscomb 311.5 327 Savannah St 312.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Rich Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 I'm interested. Too bad we scheduled Savannah State. They really do suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyjibo Posted January 6, 2004 Author Share Posted January 6, 2004 As far as the sucking end of the spectrum, I should clarify that any team that was not D-1 for part of the period were given the same rank as the worst D-1 team. Savannah St. has only been D-1 since last season (so 9 years they tied for the lowest ranking and one year with real performance they were 2nd to last). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 And if you look at conferences, granted conferences have changed, but if you look at the teams in CUSA today and the teams in the Big 12 today - then out of the top 60 teams in the last 10 years - the big 12 has 6 teams in the top 60 and CUSA has 6 teams in the top 60. If you average the RPI's of those 6 teams in each conference in the top 60, the big 12 has an average RPI of 44.26 and CUSA has an average of 51.31 Also, I better lay off of Belmont. They are more of a powerhouse than I thought. They are 298 out of 327. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 That is great info ... thanks for taking the time to share it with us. Also you should send it to SLU ... something tells me that they are probably not aware Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gister Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 Actually, if you look at CBS's sportsline RPI ranking, Belmont, this year at this point in the season, has a higher RPI than Missouri. Thanks for the great statistics. You either are on vacation or you were able to automate the calculations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 kwyjibo, wow! fantastic work. while i wouldnt have expected it to turn out that high, i think some of the programs ahead of us shows that we still need and can get a lot better. again, thanks for the work. that is some good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBand Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 35 Marquette 57.9 Anyone else wonder how much of a difference that final four appearance made in their ranking? Now, I'm not taking a shot, just curious how much of an effect a year like that has on a program. On the other side, how much does a bad year tank a ranking...say you were to go back an additional year and include Grawer's last season, how far would we drop? I agree that 10 years is a good amount of years to include for a reasonable estimate of a program's strength, just curiosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 6, 2004 Share Posted January 6, 2004 >>Anyone else wonder how much of a difference that final four appearance made in their ranking? Now, I'm not taking a shot, just curious how much of an effect a year like that has on a program. Absolutely no difference. The RPI calculation stops at the end of the conference tournaments. NCAA Tournament games are not factored in. Furthermore, reaching the Final Four is not indicative of a team's RPI ranking. It's possible for a team, like Syracuse last year, to rise up from a middle-of-the-NCAA-Tournament-road RPI ranking to win it all, and for a top RPI team, like Kentucky, to fall short of the Final Four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyjibo Posted January 6, 2004 Author Share Posted January 6, 2004 I chose 10 years because it was what was available at CollegeRPI.com]. I also think it is reasonable. (I did pay for the site this year to do some historical work--the real work was getting it into a spreadsheet--now doing rankings and comparisons is easy). Here is the ranking by last RPI average over the last five and last three years (sorted by the ranking for last 5 years). I may do a weighted ranking as well(use all the years but current years count more). Saint Louis is 69th over the last 5 years and 83rd over the last 3 years. Sorry about the formatting (Note: that Marquette is 36th over the last 3 years). Also the steadiest team (least variance) ranking over the last ten years was Kentucky (steady good), over last 5 years wasy Lipscomb (steady bad), and over the last 3 years (steady OK). School 5 YR 3 YR Duke 1 2 Arizona 2 1 Kentucky 3 4 Kansas 4 3 Cincinnati 5 12 Stanford 6 10 Maryland 7 12 Oklahoma 8 5 Michigan St 9 14 Texas 10 6 Florida 11 8 Connecticut 12 20 Indiana 13 19 Illinois 14 7 Wisconsin 15 28 Syracuse 16 23 Ohio State 17 29 Oklahoma St 18 20 Utah 19 26 Tennessee 20 33 Wake Forest 21 10 Creighton 22 20 Missouri 23 31 St. John's 24 51 Tulsa 25 40 Gonzaga 26 33 UCLA 27 48 Auburn 28 56 North Carolina 28 46 California 30 26 Villanova 31 40 Xavier 31 17 Temple 33 67 Fresno St 34 38 Alabama 35 24 Louisville 36 64 Purdue 37 60 Kent St 38 56 Charlotte 39 49 Butler 40 35 Notre Dame 41 18 Oregon 41 58 Arkansas 43 55 Mississippi 44 38 Georgia 45 9 Iowa 46 70 Mississippi St 47 15 BYU 48 30 North Carolina St 49 47 Pittsburgh 50 16 Southern Cal 50 40 UNLV 52 53 Miami-Florida 53 82 Virginia 54 44 Southern Ill 55 66 Marquette 56 36 LSU 57 69 Dayton 58 37 Minnesota 59 71 Georgetown 60 62 Wyoming 61 52 Seton Hall 62 74 Vanderbilt 63 73 Coll of Charleston 64 76 Arizona St 65 72 Saint Joseph's 66 32 Iowa State 67 80 Utah St 68 62 Saint Louis 69 83[/b Georgia Tech 70 64 Pepperdine 71 77 South Carolina 72 58 Memphis 73 53 Providence 74 49 Rutgers 75 88 Pennsylvania 76 94 New Mexico 77 84 Colorado 78 79 Boston College 79 24 Detroit 80 81 Richmond 81 68 SMS 82 133 Hawaii 83 45 DePaul 84 134 George Mason 84 88 SMU 84 97 Miami-Ohio 87 119 St. Bonaventure 87 86 UAB 89 103 Western Ky 90 43 UNC Wilmington 91 60 Michigan 92 97 Ohio 92 108 TCU 94 125 Ball State 95 105 Bowling Green 95 123 Weber St 97 105 Toledo 98 121 Delaware 99 122 Princeton 100 102 Nebraska 101 96 Texas Tech 102 75 New Mexico St 103 131 UL-Lafayette 104 90 Murray St 105 129 South Florida 106 90 Siena 107 145 Colorado St 108 110 Florida St 109 117 George Wash 110 138 Kansas St 111 118 Massachusetts 112 115 Southern Miss 113 127 San Diego 114 111 Washington 115 140 Hofstra 116 159 Penn State 117 149 Valparaiso 118 85 West Virginia 119 119 Drexel 120 113 Georgia St 121 99 Clemson 122 140 La Tech 122 135 Bradley 124 173 Marshall 125 154 Illinois St 126 126 Niagara 127 144 VCU 127 99 Iona 129 163 Tulane 130 165 Wis-Milwaukee 131 95 CS Northridge 132 156 Evansville 133 190 Santa Clara 134 159 Samford 135 174 Baylor 136 109 Indiana St 137 203 UC Irvine 138 78 Tennessee Tech 139 99 Northwestern 140 142 Troy St 141 93 Chattanooga 142 114 Oregon St 143 162 Davidson 144 151 Marist 145 146 Austin Peay 146 123 Texas A&M 147 143 Eastern Wash 148 136 Central Conn 149 168 Boise St 150 167 East Tenn St 150 128 La Salle 152 153 UC Santa Barbara 152 132 Akron 154 201 UTEP 154 194 Western Mich 156 161 San Diego St 157 87 Illinois-Chi 158 107 Fairfield 159 178 Rice 160 155 St. Francis-NY 160 188 South Alabama 162 175 Maine 163 207 Wichita St 164 166 Central Mich 165 116 Rhode Island 166 182 Sam Houston 166 157 UCF 168 184 Houston 169 170 McNeese St 170 111 Manhattan 171 104 Old Dominion 172 183 San Francisco 173 188 Appalachian St 174 241 Holy Cross 175 92 Winthrop 175 198 Rider 177 172 Northern Ariz 178 238 Eastern Ill 179 176 Cleveland St 180 193 Pacific 181 147 Hampton 182 137 Nevada 182 129 Virginia Tech 184 195 Arkansas St 185 209 Long Beach 185 227 East Carolina 187 168 South Carolina St 188 178 SE Missouri St 189 265 Lafayette 190 251 Wis-Green Bay 190 229 TX-San Antonio 192 204 Wagner 192 139 Montana St 194 187 UL-Monroe 195 205 Vermont 195 180 Monmouth 197 149 James Madison 198 229 Navy 199 247 Alcorn St 200 228 Wright St 201 158 Boston U 202 148 Northern Iowa 203 225 New Orleans 204 185 Loyola-Chicago 205 186 Air Force 206 195 Oral Roberts 207 200 Washington St 208 214 Montana 209 219 UMBC 209 216 Fordham 211 232 Drake 212 218 Georgia So 213 197 Radford 214 240 Ark-Little Rock 215 164 Canisius 216 229 UNC Greensboro 217 192 San Jose St 218 238 Morehead St 219 181 Middle Tenn St 220 225 SW Texas St 221 235 Bucknell 222 245 Oakland 223 177 Brown 224 152 Southern Utah 225 210 Northern Ill 226 213 American 227 199 Florida Intl 228 270 TX-Arlington 229 224 Colgate 230 243 Harvard 230 207 Jacksonville 232 191 Lamar 233 255 Yale 234 171 Furman 235 223 Quinnipiac 236 247 UMKC 237 215 Duquesne 238 222 Alabama St 239 212 Idaho 240 278 Northwestern St 240 247 Mercer 242 202 Cal Poly 243 219 Coppin St 244 267 Fairleigh Dickinson 245 276 Jacksonville St 245 233 Hartford 247 253 UNC Asheville 248 237 Portland St 249 278 Idaho St 250 219 Robert Morris 250 289 Wofford 252 250 Eastern Mich 253 285 William & Mary 253 244 IUPUI 255 206 St. Mary's 256 246 Belmont 257 211 Youngstown St 258 266 Tenn-Martin 259 252 Stetson 260 259 Miss Valley St 261 254 North Texas 262 261 St. Peter's 263 281 Alabama A&M 264 257 Stephen F. Austin 265 217 Norfolk St 266 262 Northeastern 267 260 Towson 268 269 Loyola-Marymount 269 263 Florida Atl 270 235 St. Francis-PA 271 264 Jackson St 272 302 Delaware St 273 234 Portland 273 268 Southern U 275 318 The Citadel 275 242 Centenary 277 293 Columbia 278 277 Denver 278 256 Bethune-Cookman 280 308 Nicholls St 281 294 TX-Pan American 282 274 North Carolina A&T 283 287 Long Island 284 284 Mt St. Mary's 285 316 Texas Southern 286 271 Western Ill 287 300 Florida A&M 288 275 Buffalo 289 281 VMI 290 289 Dartmouth 291 300 Western Car 292 299 Stony Brook 293 271 Howard 294 257 Charleston So 295 283 Lehigh 296 271 Loyola-Maryland 297 314 Tennessee St 298 303 CS Fullerton 299 307 Elon 299 291 Campbell 301 314 Coastal Carolina 302 297 SE Louisiana 303 298 MD-East Shore 304 304 Cornell 305 313 Liberty 305 305 Prairie View A&M 307 285 Birmingham Southern 308 280 Sacramento St 309 311 New Hampshire 310 296 TAMU-CC 310 288 Grambling 312 294 Binghamton 313 292 Army 314 310 Morgan St 315 323 Sacred Heart 316 306 Eastern Ky 317 311 Chicago St 318 321 UC Riverside 318 309 High Point 320 319 Albany 321 317 IPFW 322 320 Gardner-Webb 323 322 Ark-Pine Bluff 324 325 Morris Brown 325 324 Lipscomb 326 326 Savannah St 327 327 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwyjibo Posted January 6, 2004 Author Share Posted January 6, 2004 You are right about the RPI's use but Jerry Palm (my data source)does continue to do RPIs throughout the NCAA tourney. I do need to clarify this though as I think what I have posted so far included some tournament (my recollection is that it includes everything but the final 3 games/final weekend). If the "some tournament" sounds weird, it is! But Palm's site includes ads in his year end summaries so I tried a different way to get the data. My goal is to have both regular season/conf tourney end data (to answer "How does the NCAA/NIT selection work?" type questions) and to have tourney ending records to do year-to-year comparisons. My ultimate goal is then is to have a website up by the beginning of March so all interested fans can look at it. I have not emailed Jerry Palm about this yet so it may not fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Majerus Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Great job - what's just as interesting as the names above SLU are the names below them - a lot of tradition there. I think you could construct a true/false test out of this list which would stump even basketball junkies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyClyde Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 I must be missing something. Big 12 CUSA #2 KU ----- #5 Cincy 11 OU ----- 24 Louisville 18 OK St ----- 28 Charlotte 19 Texas ----- 35 Marq 25 Mizzou ----- 52 Memphis 48 IA St ----- 58 Saint Louis 59 Nebraska I think I got all the teams in both conferences. The Big 12 has 5 teams in the top 25. CUSA has 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBand Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBand Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 And look at Charlotte. Talk about a program that doesn't get its due props. Anywhere else people would always mention Charlotte as a good team, but with SO many programs along tobacco road they get lost in the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 That was damn interesting kwyjibo. Thanks for taking the time to put it together. You win the prize for the #1 RPI geek on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 nm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 in all fairness, however, right now Belmont is 58th in rpi. For comparison: Belmont- 58 SPUMAC- 59 West Virginia- 72 SMS- 106 SLU- 112 Belmont was a bad loss, but nothing to be guilty of schadenfreude over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesycow Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 ...he was making the point that although the quantity is roughly the same, the quality is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 That was pointed out already though. The averages of the Big 12 & CUSA teams were calculated in that post and Big 12 was better than CUSA by about 10 spots. SPUMAC fans need to take some reading comprehension classes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quality Is Job 1 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 This is fantastic, but I see something I'd like you to change if it can be done easily enough. You've compared the RPI rankings of every team for ten years, but each year is different. That is, an RPI ranking of 40 in 2003 isn't the same as an RPI ranking of 40 in 1995. The actual RPI is a five digit decimal number, like 0.5725 Did you incorporate the actual RPI into your spreadsheet? If you did, you should be able to average the actual RPI and then rank the teams by that average. I think that would be a better representation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 anyone else notice the two people that usually take money at the parking lot across the street from the savvis are both proud missouri alums always wearing their missouri hats and jackets? i asked he lady last week when she graduated and she said 98. i told her we would have to get her a raise so she could get a billiken jacket and she just smiled at me. i guess she knows she could never enter that level. ;-) it should give the tiger players peace of mind to know that bill laurie will take care of tiger grads even after they graduate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyClyde Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 I was told this board had a few knowledgeable basketball fans posting and a whole bunch of delusional homers. He was right. By the way I am a Billikens fan. Sorry tonka if I misread your post. There is no comparison between the strengths of the two conferences. That was the only point I was trying to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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