BLIKNS Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 So who will win this year`s honor? Mr. Missouri guesses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Lotsa candidates this year. Moosman and Watts are my favorites for PD POY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoat Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Mooseman should take it home, but it's hard to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 The Moose in a runaway. Beat Watts head to head, led Borgia to the state championship, MVP at state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 There are 5 candidates for PD POY Leon Powell James Washington Alex Moosman Sanijay Watts Marquis Jones Powell was snubbed last year because he was a sophomore and came up lame in the title game. This year his team was nearly as dominant, he came to play in the state final four and they won the title. Powell is my favorite to win the award though. ALL 5 of the kids are deserving though. St. Louis area teams won 5 out of the 10 possible state championships. St. Louis took over Columbia and that's a great sign for billiken fans if we can keep these kids home. Especially those talented juniors who were huge like Powell, Exkerle, and Gilmore. Gilmore may have hit the best shot in state tourney history from half-court. When I read the paper they said 28 foot. I was in the building, it was one step inside half-court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 actually, i dont think there is even a race. it has to be mooseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 When do the awards come out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 ..... the kiss of death? Kind of like the "Best New Artist" award at the Grammy's? The POY first came out in 1985 and the winner doesn'talways equate to a great collegiate career. 1985 -- Monroe Douglas; 1986 -- Anthony Jones; 1987 -- Jesse Hall; 1988 -- LaPhonso Ellis; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Moosman has the edge cuz of his teams state championship but if Watts had not been hurt at the end of the year, jennings might have been in Columbia too. Seeing both teams, I have to say Borgia was more talented, Watts carried his team on his back, moreso than Mossman. Moosman may win but Watts was the best player in the area this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 That may be more indicative of the lack of talent in the St Louis area than a curse. I would say most PD players of the year have had at least some collegiate success. Even Joel Shelton was a good player at Mineral Area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 The St. Louis area boys teams swept the state championships in classes 3-5 so the star player from any of those teams would be worthy of the player of the year award. My favorites to win it all year were Vashon in class 5 and Borgia or Jennings in class 4. Others felt the same way. No one talked about Ritter or Jones all year. They quietly went about winning state and won easily in the title game. Jones was consistent all year and he is a deserving candidate and is the darkhorse for the award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLU_Nick Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 So we dont want Moosman for SLU? I know nothing about him just wondering what is wrong with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 well he is already signed by miami of ohio mainly. that kind of makes it a moot point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 of all past winners. I looked online but couldn't find one through google. I'd be willing to bet that more often then not they were damn good college players. Taj still seems hung up on DP being the POY a few years ago. Its hard for me to imagine that guys like Hughes, Ryan Robertson, Carawell, Jahidi White weren't also on the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I looked for a list too couldn't find it, they will ahve one in the apaper when they do the teams. My recollection is Guys that I can remember winning it are Miles, Hughes, Jahidi White never won, but Carrawell or Woods did, Shelton, the kid from Ritter who's brother was on Mc North this year, Polk, I think Clay from Riverview won it, Keane from Collinsville, McKinney, Thames, Not sure if any of Claggett, Highmark or Winfield were the winner their year, Ryan Robertson, Did Kandlbinder win it? Thats at least 11 there. Most of those guys were D-1 caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Two recent metro graduates that were named POY are Kenny Burke (Ritter) and last year's winner, Landon Shipley (Lafayette). I believe Burke went to Moberly JC out of high school, not sure where he went to school this season....maybe a small NAIA school somewhere. (V-Time can fill in the blanks here.) Shipley went to Austin Peay. He came off the bench all year....averaged about 14 minutes and 5.5 points per game. Had more turnovers than assist. I can only assume Blake Ahern won the award the year before Kenny Burke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Players of the Year - The Post-Dispatch beganselecting a boys high school basketball Player of the Year in 1985. 1985 Monroe Douglass McKinley 1986 Anthony Jones Vashon 1987 Jesse Hall Venice 1988 LaPhonso Ellis Lincoln 1989 Johnny Mack Country Day 1990 Cuonzo Martin Lincoln 1991 Scott Highmark Parkway West 1992 Richard Keene Collinsville 1993 Kelly Thames Jennings 1994 Demetrius Alexander Hazelwood Central 1995 Ryan Robertson St. Charles West 1996 Loren Woods Cardinal Ritter 1997 Larry Hughes CBC 1998 Jon Harris Edwardsville 1999 Darius Miles East St. Louis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 1985 Monroe Douglass McKinley 1986 Anthony Jones Vashon 1987 Jesse Hall Venice 1988 LaPhonso Ellis Lincoln 1989 Johnny Mack Country Day 1990 Cuonzo Martin Lincoln 1991 Scott Highmark Parkway West 1992 Richard Keene Collinsville 1993 Kelly Thames Jennings 1994 Demetrius Alexander Hazelwood Central 1995 Ryan Robertson St. Charles West 1996 Loren Woods Cardinal Ritter 1997 Larry Hughes CBC 1998 Jon Harris Edwardsville 1999 Darius Miles East St. Louis 00 Shelton 01 Mckinney 02 ? 03 Polk 04 Burke 05 Shipley 4 guys are NBA players. Martin had a cup of coffee in the league, Thames most certainly was an NBA player if not for his injury. Douglas, Highmark, Keene, Alexander, Robertson, Harris, Mckinney, all were above average D-1 players on major college teams. Burke and Shelton are probably the worst on the list, neither of them are D-1 caliber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I would imagine David Lee had to have been one? No? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taj79 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 ... as my post above stops in 1988 with Ellis ... I had every intention of continuing with the list to the current year but the computer went screwy. I am surprised that my post above is actuall yon here because after the screw up, I thought it was lost in cyberspace and would not be posted. Missing from the list were the following PD POYs: 1989: Johnny Mack, 1990: Cuonzo Martin; 1991 -- Scott Highmark; 1992 -- Richard Keene; 1993 -- Kelly Thames; 1994 -- Demetrious Alexander; 1995 -- Ryan Robertson; 1996 -- Loren Woods; 1997 -- Larry Hughes; 1998 -- Jon Harris; 1999 & 2000 -- Daruis Miles; 2001 -- David Lee & Jimmy McKinney ; 2002 -- Jimmy McKinney; 2003 -- Kenny Burke; 2004 -- Dwayne Polk; and 2005 -- Landon Shipley. As a mattrer of fact, we got four of the five members of the 2004 All-Metro team in Polk, Lisch, Liddell and Meyer. I think I agree that the overall St. Louis talent pool is somewhat shallow. I have the entire list to include the five all-metro team members from each year starting with 1964. I seem to recall that someone gave it to me .. maybe it was Nate. In any case I will retract my overall statement that the PD POY is like the Best New Artist at the Grammy's crack. From the list above, it seems more true to say that almost all of the PD POYs have had above average collegiate careers. I would say that of those that did not, only Jones, Hall, Alexander,Harris and McKinney did not, although I can see arguments on my McKinney inclusion. Miles of course doesn't count and the jury is still out on those from '03 forward. I think kshoe is correct below in identifying my hangup and I've got to move past that. I also have to admit surprise that Joel Shelton was a three-time all-metro pick but never POY. I thought that he was. Anyway, I have th elist and will be happy to share with anyone who wants it. Just ask and give me an email address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 > I have the entire list to include the five all-metro team members from each year starting with 1964. I seem to recall that someone gave it to me .. maybe it was Nate. And you always thought it would be your eyes that would be the first thing to go as you got older . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3star_recruit Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Lee and McKinney shared the award when Lee was a senior and McKinney was a junior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 >Two recent metro graduates that were named POY are Kenny >Burke (Ritter) and last year's winner, Landon Shipley >(Lafayette). > >I believe Burke went to Moberly JC out of high school, not >sure where he went to school this season....maybe a small >NAIA school somewhere. (V-Time can fill in the blanks here.) > >Shipley went to Austin Peay. He came off the bench all >year....averaged about 14 minutes and 5.5 points per game. >Had more turnovers than assist. > >I can only assume Blake Ahern won the award the year before >Kenny Burke. Burke went to Moberly JC, they had him playing sg because of Mo Gibbs, and he knew pg was his shot at division, so he transferred mid-year to Mineral Area and sat out the semester. He played the 2005 season for Mineral Area and was second on the team in scoring behind All-American Ryan Byrne. He then signed with Southeastern Oklahoma State (D2). He will be playing his final year of eligibility back home where at Lindenwood. Ryan Byrne now plays for Missouri Baptist. Mo Gibbs now plays for UAB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtside Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I would like to see the full metro team for all of those years....if someone has a link, or doesn't mind posting it.(it is a lot of names I know) Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTIME Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Full 2005 Lisch Barnett Hill Shipley Fuhrmeyer 2004 Lisch Polk Meyer Liddell Price 2003 Lisch Agbo Falker Kirby Burke Full 2002 McKinney Kern Collins ? ? Maybe Dan Oppland, I forget 2001 Simms Lee McKinney Kelly ? I forget I'll remember later I have the paper from a couple years ago, I think it was called 40 years of all-metro. It had all the teams. I'll post them either tonight or tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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