MB73 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 He's an easy target. Yes, we need additional wins. I think we'll get there. We get to 23 regular season wins (22 not counting UIS) and I think we're in. I don't think i have necessarily disagreed with MB's need for road wins, top 50 wins, etc. I think we will get those in the next 12 games. MB has gone from "the WR debacle has killed this program", to "18-19 wins and we might get an NIT bid", to "20 wins", to "we look great after 6-0", to "Charlotte is a decent team", to "Charlotte is a sh*tty team", etc. I think we have some wins that will look good, not great, at the end of the season (OU, Wash, 'nova). I have a little fun at his expense. I happen to see a team that played like a top 15 team at one point and then lost their mojo. MB is generally negative about our results. If we shoot the 3 ball consistent with our early season percentage, we can hang with anyone in the country. If we don't hit it, we can get beat by a lot of teams, including bad ones. Not very accurate representation of things at all but, hey, that's your style. I expected about 20 wins or so going into A-10 coming off 11 win season. I was enthused by our 6-0 start, but BC, Nova, OK are not what we thought they were. We're 13-4, SOS > 100, we are on schedule to get 20 wins if we finish 7-5. If we finish 10-2 then we have a good shot at NCAA's. Need quality wins (Xavier, Dayton) and good road wins (U Mass, St. Joe, LaSalle). So, wtf, why are you so frustrated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Except, of course, that Nebraska is in the Big 10. Except, of course, that Nebraska is in the Big 10. Got me there, HA! To me, Nebraska is in the Big 8. When men were men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Not very accurate representation of things at all but, hey, that's your style. I expected about 20 wins or so going into A-10 coming off 11 win season. I was enthused by our 6-0 start, but BC, Nova, OK are not what we thought they were. We're 13-4, SOS > 100, we are on schedule to get 20 wins if we finish 7-5. If we finish 10-2 then we have a good shot at NCAA's. Need quality wins (Xavier, Dayton) and good road wins (U Mass, St. Joe, LaSalle). What isn't accurate? Have you not cried about the debacle killing our program? Have you not said 18-19 wins, if we're lucky? Have you not said that we'd be lucky to get an NIT bid? We're you not enthusiastic about the 6-0 start (wait, you just said you were)? Did you not refer to Charlotte as a decent team? Soon thereafter, did you not refer to Charlotte as a sh*tty team? Have you not downplayed our wins? I don't disagree with you and others that we need a lot of wins in the last 12 games. I am generally positive that we will get them; I think you are generally negative about it. And yes, given the general goofy nature of your posts I have a laugh at your expense. So, wtf, why are you so frustrated? I'm on my period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 The following games have RPI implications for SLU today: Washington vs. Cal LMU at BYU BC at NC State Both BC and LMU are major underdogs, so if either one can pickup a win, that can only help us out where RPI is concerned. I believe Washington is a slight favorite in its game. If they can pick up a win against Cal, whose RPI is in the 30s, they will definitely see a nice bump. At the very least, this gives us some rooting interests in games tonight. Add these to the list: Vermont hosting Albany Tenn St. at Eastern Illinois Arkansas St. at Mid Tenn St Portland hosting San Diego From a purely RPI perspective, all 7 games are roughly equally important, however we'd all like to see UW keep winning and become a win that we can hang our hat on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbizzle09 Posted January 19, 2012 Share Posted January 19, 2012 Not very accurate representation of things at all but, hey, that's your style. I expected about 20 wins or so going into A-10 coming off 11 win season. I was enthused by our 6-0 start, but BC, Nova, OK are not what we thought they were. We're 13-4, SOS > 100, we are on schedule to get 20 wins if we finish 7-5. If we finish 10-2 then we have a good shot at NCAA's. Need quality wins (Xavier, Dayton) and good road wins (U Mass, St. Joe, LaSalle). So, wtf, why are you so frustrated? Well, since our winning percentage is now .778 (or.764, not counting UI-S), we are actually 'on schedule' to go 9-3 the rest of the way, if we stay true to our current winning percentage. If we go 10-2, that would be slightly above our current winning percentage (.833), but not much of a reach. Going 7-5 the rest of the way would be a definite downturn (.583). One of the reasons I am optimistic, and perhaps moreso than others, of us finishing with at least 11 wins in conference, and perhaps more, is due to our opponents 3-point percentage. In 4 conference games so far, we have allowed our opponents to shoot an unbelievable 48.9% from beyond the arc. Prior to the conference season starting, we were holding opponents to only 28.5%. To get even more into the numbers, our non conference opponents were averaging 11.2 attempts and hitting on 3.2 a game. In these 4 games, the conference opponents are averaging 11.75 attempts and hitting on 5.75 a game. That right there is a difference of nearly 8 points a game. One thing to notice is that we are still limiting our opponents attempts to an extremely low number (due to our style of defense), they have just been hitting their shots at a crazy rate! I just don't see our opponents the rest of the way hitting nearly 50% of their treys. As for our three point shooting, it has pretty much stayed the same these last four games as compared to the non-conference season. In conference, we are shooting 37.5%, averaging 18 attempts and hitting on 6.75. In non-conf, it was 39.5% and hit on 7.4 of 18.8 attempts. I had initially thought that perhaps the increase of turnovers per game might be another explanation. In non-conf play we averaged only 10.6 TOs and in conference it is up to 13.2. However, we forced 15.2 per game in non-conf and in conference it is up to 17.5. Basically, the difference is a wash. Like Wiz, I believe that the stats will revert back to the mean. Thus, the teams we face will not continue to shoot at nearly 50% from the arc. Also, considering that we are averaging about 10 more FG attempts per game than our conference opponents, we should see scores more like what we did earlier in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo027 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 If we finish the season 10-2 to finish with a 12-4 conference record, we are a stone cold lock before the conference tournament even starts. We still play Xavier and Dayton at home, and Xavier, UMass, La Salle, St Joes and Duquesne on the road, and we'll be 5-2 on that schedule (assuming wins over Duquesne, Richmond, Fordham, and St Bona at home, and on the road at Rhode Island, any of these would be crushing losses). KenPom has us as the #17 team in the country, by far the best in the A-10, and projects a 9-3 record the rest of the way to finish 11-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 What isn't accurate? Have you not cried about the debacle killing our program? Have you not said 18-19 wins, if we're lucky? Have you not said that we'd be lucky to get an NIT bid? We're you not enthusiastic about the 6-0 start (wait, you just said you were)? Did you not refer to Charlotte as a decent team? Soon thereafter, did you not refer to Charlotte as a sh*tty team? Have you not downplayed our wins? I don't disagree with you and others that we need a lot of wins in the last 12 games. I am generally positive that we will get them; I think you are generally negative about it. And yes, given the general goofy nature of your posts I have a laugh at your expense. I'm on my period. All = way off base. Not what I said. Skewed. You are like, a "weird-stalker" type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 All = way off base. Not what I said. Skewed. You are like, a "weird-stalker" type. I'm a normal stalker. Since I'm way off base, let's see what you said: See post #4 - "decent Charlotte squad" - http://www.billikens.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=21785&st=0&p=296272&fromsearch=1entry296272 Soon thereafter, Charlotte is "sh*tty", see post #19 - http://www.billikens.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=21806&st=0&p=297049&hl="sh*tty"&fromsearch=1entry297049 Exhibit C, post #23 - http://www.billikens.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20941&st=20&p=276176&fromsearch=1entry276176 - in this doozy you say the "incident killed" our chance to make a splash and "I cannot see us recovering". Oh, you also say we'd win 19-20 games, including the A-10 tourney (sorry, you are right, I attributed 18-19 wins to you). That we would not make the NIT unless there is a "HUGE miracle development". Not just a miracle, but a HUGE miracle. Let's see what you said about the washington win...oh, here it is, post #32: http://www.billikens.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=21335&st=20&p=285191&fromsearch=1entry285191 Let me quote it for you: "Impressive as hell; we took a BCS team apart, a team that has been in the thick of NCAA's for quite some time. TOOK THEM APART. Oh, and welcome back to St. Louis, Lorenzo." Then, you have since downplayed the UW win because of a variety of things, including the start time. I assume you would admit to being enthusiastic after our 6-0 start. Attributing that to you wasn't way off base, was it? I mean, you only said it 3-4 posts ago. Let me guess, someone (probably from the government) went in and edited your posts? I can keep busting you up all night if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbizzle09 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'm a normal stalker. Since I'm way off base, let's see what you said: See post #4 - "decent Charlotte squad" - http://www.billikens...=1 Soon thereafter, Charlotte is "sh*tty", see post #19 - http://www.billikens...=1 Exhibit C, post #23 - http://www.billikens...=1 - in this doozy you say the "incident killed" our chance to make a splash and "I cannot see us recovering". Oh, you also say we'd win 19-20 games, including the A-10 tourney (sorry, you are right, I attributed 18-19 wins to you). That we would not make the NIT unless there is a "HUGE miracle development". Not just a miracle, but a HUGE miracle. Let's see what you said about the washington win...oh, here it is, post #32: http://www.billikens...=1 Let me quote it for you: "Impressive as hell; we took a BCS team apart, a team that has been in the thick of NCAA's for quite some time. TOOK THEM APART. Oh, and welcome back to St. Louis, Lorenzo." Then, you have since downplayed the UW win because of a variety of things, including the start time. I assume you would admit to being enthusiastic after our 6-0 start. Attributing that to you wasn't way off base, was it? I mean, you only said it 3-4 posts ago. Let me guess, someone (probably from the government) went in and edited your posts? I can keep busting you up all night if you want. I especially like in that rant from July where MB refers to himself in the third person, stating that he is thinking of posting his 'last, ever MB73 post.' Truly a classic from a long list of them. MB73 is by far my favorite poster on this board. The reason is because MB73 is like the Glass Joe of Billikens.com. He might be overmatched. He might have a terrible record. But it never stops him from pointing at himself and showing the utmost confidence right before hitting canvas once again. MB73, I salute you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gister Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 The following games have RPI implications for SLU today: Washington vs. Cal LMU at BYU BC at NC State Both BC and LMU are major underdogs, so if either one can pickup a win, that can only help us out where RPI is concerned. I believe Washington is a slight favorite in its game. If they can pick up a win against Cal, whose RPI is in the 30s, they will definitely see a nice bump. At the very least, this gives us some rooting interests in games tonight. LMU is winning at BYU by 11 with 1:43 left and Washington lost to Cal at home. BC also lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbizzle09 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 LMU is winning at BYU by 11 with 1:43 left and Washington lost to Cal at home. BC also lost. Yep, watching the LMU game now. Who knew having the BYU channel on Uverse would ever come in handy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 LMU is winning at BYU by 11 with 1:43 left and Washington lost to Cal at home. BC also lost. Looks like a 3-3 night for slu opponents with the Portland game remaining. Not bad considering there were some tough games in there but the Washington loss is certainly disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 The following games have RPI implications for SLU today: Washington vs. Cal LMU at BYU BC at NC State Both BC and LMU are major underdogs, so if either one can pickup a win, that can only help us out where RPI is concerned. I believe Washington is a slight favorite in its game. If they can pick up a win against Cal, whose RPI is in the 30s, they will definitely see a nice bump. At the very least, this gives us some rooting interests in games tonight. I had Cal (A) over Wash ( B ) by 4....so it came out about right ....Cal winning by 3 ...so no damage to Bills. The big surprise was LoyM ( C ) over BYU (A) by 14 at BYU. I had BYU by 10 so definitely an upset. This helps the Bills a lot. Loy M is now a C+ team up from C- when we played them.....so the Bills have no bad losses...ie they have not lost to any bad teams. Our best win at this point is Okla (B+) followed by Nova ( B ) and then Wash ( B )The first 2 on a neutral court so even better. I guess if you wanted to root for somebody we have played, you should root for Okla. over Kansas, but for now I will take the Loy M victory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Got me there, HA! To me, Nebraska is in the Big 8. When men were men. Mistah, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACE Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Mistah, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again... Nice! NB73's analysis of the UC/Xavier brawl was very Archie Bunker-esque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB73 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I'm a normal stalker. Since I'm way off base, let's see what you said: See post #4 - "decent Charlotte squad" - http://www.billikens...=1 Soon thereafter, Charlotte is "sh*tty", see post #19 - http://www.billikens...=1 Exhibit C, post #23 - http://www.billikens...=1 - in this doozy you say the "incident killed" our chance to make a splash and "I cannot see us recovering". Oh, you also say we'd win 19-20 games, including the A-10 tourney (sorry, you are right, I attributed 18-19 wins to you). That we would not make the NIT unless there is a "HUGE miracle development". Not just a miracle, but a HUGE miracle. Let's see what you said about the washington win...oh, here it is, post #32: http://www.billikens...=1 Let me quote it for you: "Impressive as hell; we took a BCS team apart, a team that has been in the thick of NCAA's for quite some time. TOOK THEM APART. Oh, and welcome back to St. Louis, Lorenzo." Then, you have since downplayed the UW win because of a variety of things, including the start time. I assume you would admit to being enthusiastic after our 6-0 start. Attributing that to you wasn't way off base, was it? I mean, you only said it 3-4 posts ago. Let me guess, someone (probably from the government) went in and edited your posts? I can keep busting you up all night if you want. Strange interpretations. Sure I was pleased initially over the Washington win, but when you disect it, at this point, it is not a quality win, they lost some key starters from last year and are now 11-6, 87 RPI. And the 11am start WAS a factor. So? Same with BC and Nova and OK... but they are not BC, Nova, and OK anymore, are they? Yes, losing WR and KM was a devastating blow, killed our momentum, we were NCAA bound last yr. So? I saw Charlotte's W-L and thought they were decent, yes, and indicated that we could struggle (and we did) but upon further inspection, hey, they did not beat anybody and are not a top 100 team. Great 14 pt comeback, we beat them by 1. If we lost, this board would be going APE. Again, months ago I said I though we would win about 20... and we are shaping up in that direction, give or take. If the kids go 7-5, thats 20, if they go 8-4, thats 21. Big deal. Weirdo creep obsessive 24/7 stalkers like you and JBizzle: get a hobby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbizzle09 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Strange interpretations. Sure I was pleased initially over the Washington win, but when you disect it, at this point, it is not a quality win, they lost some key starters from last year and are now 11-6, 87 RPI. And the 11am start WAS a factor. So? Same with BC and Nova and OK... but they are not BC, Nova, and OK anymore, are they? Yes, losing WR and KM was a devastating blow, killed our momentum, we were NCAA bound last yr. So? I saw Charlotte's W-L and thought they were decent, yes, and indicated that we could struggle (and we did) but upon further inspection, hey, they did not beat anybody and are not a top 100 team. Great 14 pt comeback, we beat them by 1. If we lost, this board would be going APE. Again, months ago I said I though we would win about 20... and we are shaping up in that direction, give or take. If the kids go 7-5, thats 20, if they go 8-4, thats 21. Big deal. Weirdo creep obsessive 24/7 stalkers like you and JBizzle: get a hobby. They beat Davidson by 23 points. Davidson currently has an RPI of 38, a 13-4 record and beat Kansas in Kansas. They also beat St. Joe in St. Joe. St. Joe currently has an RPI of 50. That is 2 top 50 wins. And, to be honest, they were a top 100 team when you flip-flopped from calling them decent to calling them sh*tty. Currently, they are 102. What I find really funny is that you felt they were decent when looking at their win-loss record (which was 9-6 at the time) but upon further inspection figured they were sh*tty. So, on your further inspection, you didn't see their 2 top 50 wins? Just wondering. Also, thank you for calling me a 'Weirdo creep obsessive 24/7 stalker'. I finally have something else to add to my resume. Thanks for that! I mean, it isn't like you can't click on my profile here and see what my actual name is. Or look it up to see that I run my own business in St. Louis. Or that I have actually met quite a few people from this board away from the confines on my mom's basement. Or that I am getting married in less than a month. Nope, I just sit here in front of my computer 24 hours a day, 7 days a week with a Jolt cola in one hand, my other on the mouse just waiting for MB73 to make one of his super rare posts on this board (because you post so infrequently here). It is my only hobby. You got me dead to rights, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moytoy12 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Strange interpretations. Since when is pointing out your exact quotes a strange interpretation? Don't blame me, it's what you said. You really are a nut case. I claimed you made certain statements. You called me "way" off base for attributing these things to you. I then do this crazy thing called supporting my argument and point out the specific posts where you said what I attributed to you. Weirdo creep obsessive 24/7 stalkers like you and JBizzle: get a hobby. I told you, I'm a normal stalker. Though, I'm pretty sure that jbizzle is the weirdo creep obsessive 24/7 stalker. Yet, you keep responding. Feel free to put me on ignore. Or don't respond. Or maybe don't post stupid sh*t. If you consider every person that proves you wrong a stalker, I'm guessing you have a lot of stalkers. Good luck at the sportsbook this weekend, Glass Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BilliKat Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 You guys are funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 They beat Davidson by 23 points. Davidson currently has an RPI of 38, a 13-4 record and beat Kansas in Kansas. They also beat St. Joe in St. Joe. St. Joe currently has an RPI of 50. That is 2 top 50 wins. And, to be honest, they were a top 100 team when you flip-flopped from calling them decent to calling them sh*tty. Currently, they are 102. What I find really funny is that you felt they were decent when looking at their win-loss record (which was 9-6 at the time) but upon further inspection figured they were sh*tty. So, on your further inspection, you didn't see their 2 top 50 wins? Just wondering. Also, thank you for calling me a 'Weirdo creep obsessive 24/7 stalker'. I finally have something else to add to my resume. Thanks for that! I mean, it isn't like you can't click on my profile here and see what my actual name is. Or look it up to see that I run my own business in St. Louis. Or that I have actually met quite a few people from this board away from the confines on my mom's basement. Or that I am getting married in less than a month. Nope, I just sit here in front of my computer 24 hours a day, 7 days a week with a Jolt cola in one hand, my other on the mouse just waiting for MB73 to make one of his super rare posts on this board (because you post so infrequently here). It is my only hobby. You got me dead to rights, man. I f..king knew it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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