Josh Harrellson

[Cbilkn1]

For two years he was the guy on the end of the bench, the seldom-used forward who received sympathy minutes at the end of blowouts, a recruiting mistake who seemed better suited for a Division II school instead of a big-time program such as Kentucky.

Or at least that’s what people thought.

More than a month into his senior season, Josh Harrellson has proven everyone wrong. Instead of just becoming a serviceable replacement for ineligible center Enes Kanter, Harrellson has made a quantum leap from his previous role as a reserve big man.

More From Jason KingQ-and-A with Kentucky's Brandon Knight Dec 26, 2010 All about the non-Big Six: Gael force Dec 25, 2010 These days he’s a legitimate force in the paint – especially when it comes to rebounding.

The 6-foot-10, 275-pound Harrellson is averaging 9.4 boards per game for the No. 13 Wildcats, who will take a 9-2 record into Tuesday’s game against Coppin State.

Josh Harrellson's play inside has given John Calipari something to shout about.

AP

Harrellson’s out-of-nowhere success has led some analysts to dub him as one of the biggest surprises of the college basketball season. The label doesn’t bother Harrellson. Heck, he’s somewhat stunned himself.

“I never expected this,” Harrellson said. “I never thought I’d be able to do what I’m doing now.”

Harrellson’s lack of confidence was understandable. He averaged just 1.3 points in four minutes per game last season playing behind standout post players DeMarcus Cousins, Patrick Patterson and Daniel Orton. When Kentucky signed Kanter, a future NBA lottery pick, in the spring, Harrellson figured he’d be relegated to the bench once again as a senior.

Things changed, though, when Kanter was declared ineligible by the NCAA. Kentucky has appealed the ruling, but even if Kanter is allowed to play the second half of the season, Harrellson has done enough to continue to play significant minutes.

“It feels good to finally see rewards and to know that hard work really does pay off,” Harrellson said. “It’s not bogus when people say, ‘When you work hard it pays off in the long run.’ It actually does. I stuck with it, and now I’m seeing the benefits.”

So, too, is Kentucky.

Harrellson’s 14 boards against Pac-10 favorite Washington propelled the Wildcats into the championship game of the Maui Invitational last month. The senior has posted 10 or more rebounds in each of Kentucky’s last three contests, all of which resulted in wins.

Calipari, who said he’s been getting phone calls from NBA scouts about his “big, white center” couldn’t be more pleased with Harrellson’s progress.

“I told Josh, ‘There aren’t that many dominating big guys out there,’” Calipari told reporters earlier this month. “Josh can be whatever he wants to be. He can paint his own canvas. He can paint his own masterpiece. He can do whatever he wants.”

He didn’t realize it then, but Harrellson said going against players such as Cousins, Patterson and Orton – all of whom are in the NBA now – in practice last year readied him for some of the stiff competition he’s faced so far this season. He also said going head-to-head with Kanter during the summer and fall enhanced his game.

More than anyone, though, Harrellson credited Calipari with his recent surge in development. The coach and player’s relationship has blossomed since November, when Harrellson complained on Twitter that he wasn’t getting enough praise from Calipari for his production in preseason games.

“He could’ve kicked me off the team if he wanted to,” Harrellson said. “But he saw something in me and stuck with me. Coach Cal has pushed me to the fullest these last couple of months. He’s turned me into a new man.”

As well as Harrellson is playing, there is still plenty of room for him to improve. That’s especially true on the offensive end. Harrellson is averaging just five points and has scored four points or less in seven of the Wildcats’ 11 games.

He said Calipari wants him to call for the ball more often, and instead of shooting 1-footers – he’s missed a few of them this season – Calipari wants him to be more aggressive.

“I said, ‘You dunk every ball, I don’t care if you miss the dunk,’” said Calipari, adding that he also wants Harrellson to take more charges. ” [still], if he’ll rebound and do what he’s doing, we can’t ask much more. We’re just saying, ‘Give us five percent better. Where can you improve? How can you draw a foul? Where can we put you to get a couple of baskets?’ He’s doing everything.”

And loving every minute of it.

Harrellson said he still has regular conversations with Patterson and often receives congratulatory texts from Cousins and John Wall. They couldn’t be more proud of their former teammate, who has been referred to as the “mother hen” of a squad that features three freshmen in its rotation.

“I just try to come out and play my game and do what I’ve got to do and go after every rebound with two hands,” Harrellson said. “I tell myself each game that I’m going to outwork my opponent. I may not be as talented as him.

“But I’m going to outwork him.”

[AlumniFan]

For two years he was the guy on the end of the bench, the seldom-used forward who received sympathy minutes at the end of blowouts, a recruiting mistake who seemed better suited for a Division II school instead of a big-time program such as Kentucky.

Or at least that’s what people thought.

More than a month into his senior season, Josh Harrellson has proven everyone wrong. Instead of just becoming a serviceable replacement for ineligible center Enes Kanter, Harrellson has made a quantum leap from his previous role as a reserve big man.

More From Jason KingQ-and-A with Kentucky's Brandon Knight Dec 26, 2010 All about the non-Big Six: Gael force Dec 25, 2010 These days he’s a legitimate force in the paint – especially when it comes to rebounding.

The 6-foot-10, 275-pound Harrellson is averaging 9.4 boards per game for the No. 13 Wildcats, who will take a 9-2 record into Tuesday’s game against Coppin State.

Josh Harrellson's play inside has given John Calipari something to shout about.

AP

Harrellson’s out-of-nowhere success has led some analysts to dub him as one of the biggest surprises of the college basketball season. The label doesn’t bother Harrellson. Heck, he’s somewhat stunned himself.

“I never expected this,” Harrellson said. “I never thought I’d be able to do what I’m doing now.”

Harrellson’s lack of confidence was understandable. He averaged just 1.3 points in four minutes per game last season playing behind standout post players DeMarcus Cousins, Patrick Patterson and Daniel Orton. When Kentucky signed Kanter, a future NBA lottery pick, in the spring, Harrellson figured he’d be relegated to the bench once again as a senior.

Things changed, though, when Kanter was declared ineligible by the NCAA. Kentucky has appealed the ruling, but even if Kanter is allowed to play the second half of the season, Harrellson has done enough to continue to play significant minutes.

“It feels good to finally see rewards and to know that hard work really does pay off,” Harrellson said. “It’s not bogus when people say, ‘When you work hard it pays off in the long run.’ It actually does. I stuck with it, and now I’m seeing the benefits.”

So, too, is Kentucky.

Harrellson’s 14 boards against Pac-10 favorite Washington propelled the Wildcats into the championship game of the Maui Invitational last month. The senior has posted 10 or more rebounds in each of Kentucky’s last three contests, all of which resulted in wins.

Calipari, who said he’s been getting phone calls from NBA scouts about his “big, white center” couldn’t be more pleased with Harrellson’s progress.

“I told Josh, ‘There aren’t that many dominating big guys out there,’” Calipari told reporters earlier this month. “Josh can be whatever he wants to be. He can paint his own canvas. He can paint his own masterpiece. He can do whatever he wants.”

He didn’t realize it then, but Harrellson said going against players such as Cousins, Patterson and Orton – all of whom are in the NBA now – in practice last year readied him for some of the stiff competition he’s faced so far this season. He also said going head-to-head with Kanter during the summer and fall enhanced his game.

More than anyone, though, Harrellson credited Calipari with his recent surge in development. The coach and player’s relationship has blossomed since November, when Harrellson complained on Twitter that he wasn’t getting enough praise from Calipari for his production in preseason games.

“He could’ve kicked me off the team if he wanted to,” Harrellson said. “But he saw something in me and stuck with me. Coach Cal has pushed me to the fullest these last couple of months. He’s turned me into a new man.”

As well as Harrellson is playing, there is still plenty of room for him to improve. That’s especially true on the offensive end. Harrellson is averaging just five points and has scored four points or less in seven of the Wildcats’ 11 games.

He said Calipari wants him to call for the ball more often, and instead of shooting 1-footers – he’s missed a few of them this season – Calipari wants him to be more aggressive.

“I said, ‘You dunk every ball, I don’t care if you miss the dunk,’” said Calipari, adding that he also wants Harrellson to take more charges. ” [still], if he’ll rebound and do what he’s doing, we can’t ask much more. We’re just saying, ‘Give us five percent better. Where can you improve? How can you draw a foul? Where can we put you to get a couple of baskets?’ He’s doing everything.”

And loving every minute of it.

Harrellson said he still has regular conversations with Patterson and often receives congratulatory texts from Cousins and John Wall. They couldn’t be more proud of their former teammate, who has been referred to as the “mother hen” of a squad that features three freshmen in its rotation.

“I just try to come out and play my game and do what I’ve got to do and go after every rebound with two hands,” Harrellson said. “I tell myself each game that I’m going to outwork my opponent. I may not be as talented as him.

“But I’m going to outwork him.”

Who cares? Unless, of course, we want to start the entire stupid, meaningless debate all over...again.

[Quality Is Job 1]

Who cares? Unless, of course, we want to start the entire stupid, meaningless debate all over...again.

Hey, go easy on the first-time poster, short-time member.

[thetorch]

I applaud Harrellson. He was able to figure something out that 95% of players don't. Rebound well, which isn't hard, and you'll get playing time.

[moytoy12]

I applaud Harrellson. He was able to figure something out that 95% of players don't. Rebound well, which isn't hard, and you'll get playing time.

Yes, we should all applaud Harrellson. Big db's like him don't grow on trees. Why are we still talking about him? Loe would eat him up. Hell, conklin would make JH his *****.

[NH]

Yes, we should all applaud Harrellson. Big db's like him don't grow on trees. Why are we still talking about him? Loe would eat him up. Hell, conklin would make JH his *****.

Speaking of Conklin making people his *****, why hasn;t there been more talk of the fact that HE DUNKED. I was beginning to wonder if he could.

[jjray]

Josh is a St. Louis kid who wanted to play for SLU out of HS but wasn't offered. I wish him all the best. He was a monumental failure in player evaluation by UB.

[billiken_roy]

Speaking of Conklin making people his *****, why hasn;t there been more talk of the fact that HE DUNKED. I was beginning to wonder if he could.

while conklin played better this past week than normal, one still cant discount the stupid fouls and the number of high percentage shots he continues to miss. he should have scored 30+ points friday night.

[slu72]

while conklin played better this past week than normal, one still cant discount the stupid fouls and the number of high percentage shots he continues to miss. he should have scored 30+ points friday night.

And we care how JH is doing for what reason? Although, probably would rate him 3rd on UB's "wanted to come to SLU" misses behind, dare I say his name, B.Ahern, Shaw, then JH. I still think JH went to UK not for BB reasons but because UK's got some fine looking coeds whose southern drawl can make you melt like a popsicle in a microwave.

[jjray]

And we care how JH is doing for what reason? Although, probably would rate him 3rd on UB's "wanted to come to SLU" misses behind, dare I say his name, B.Ahern, Shaw, then JH. I still think JH went to UK not for BB reasons but because UK's got some fine looking coeds whose southern drawl can make you melt like a popsicle in a microwave.

That's actually an interesting parlor game--ranking UB's prospect evaluation failures. I rate Harrellson ahead of Shaw because Harrellson would have put up monster numbers by his junior and senior seasons had he played in the Valley like Shaw.

[BACKHANDtheRICAN]

For two years he was the guy on the end of the bench, the seldom-used forward who received sympathy minutes at the end of blowouts, a recruiting mistake who seemed better suited for a Division II school instead of a big-time program such as Kentucky.

Or at least that’s what people thought.

More than a month into his senior season, Josh Harrellson has proven everyone wrong. Instead of just becoming a serviceable replacement for ineligible center Enes Kanter, Harrellson has made a quantum leap from his previous role as a reserve big man.

More From Jason KingQ-and-A with Kentucky's Brandon Knight Dec 26, 2010 All about the non-Big Six: Gael force Dec 25, 2010 These days he’s a legitimate force in the paint – especially when it comes to rebounding.

The 6-foot-10, 275-pound Harrellson is averaging 9.4 boards per game for the No. 13 Wildcats, who will take a 9-2 record into Tuesday’s game against Coppin State.

Josh Harrellson's play inside has given John Calipari something to shout about.

AP

Harrellson’s out-of-nowhere success has led some analysts to dub him as one of the biggest surprises of the college basketball season. The label doesn’t bother Harrellson. Heck, he’s somewhat stunned himself.

“I never expected this,” Harrellson said. “I never thought I’d be able to do what I’m doing now.”

Harrellson’s lack of confidence was understandable. He averaged just 1.3 points in four minutes per game last season playing behind standout post players DeMarcus Cousins, Patrick Patterson and Daniel Orton. When Kentucky signed Kanter, a future NBA lottery pick, in the spring, Harrellson figured he’d be relegated to the bench once again as a senior.

Things changed, though, when Kanter was declared ineligible by the NCAA. Kentucky has appealed the ruling, but even if Kanter is allowed to play the second half of the season, Harrellson has done enough to continue to play significant minutes.

“It feels good to finally see rewards and to know that hard work really does pay off,” Harrellson said. “It’s not bogus when people say, ‘When you work hard it pays off in the long run.’ It actually does. I stuck with it, and now I’m seeing the benefits.”

So, too, is Kentucky.

Harrellson’s 14 boards against Pac-10 favorite Washington propelled the Wildcats into the championship game of the Maui Invitational last month. The senior has posted 10 or more rebounds in each of Kentucky’s last three contests, all of which resulted in wins.

Calipari, who said he’s been getting phone calls from NBA scouts about his “big, white center” couldn’t be more pleased with Harrellson’s progress.

“I told Josh, ‘There aren’t that many dominating big guys out there,’” Calipari told reporters earlier this month. “Josh can be whatever he wants to be. He can paint his own canvas. He can paint his own masterpiece. He can do whatever he wants.”

He didn’t realize it then, but Harrellson said going against players such as Cousins, Patterson and Orton – all of whom are in the NBA now – in practice last year readied him for some of the stiff competition he’s faced so far this season. He also said going head-to-head with Kanter during the summer and fall enhanced his game.

More than anyone, though, Harrellson credited Calipari with his recent surge in development. The coach and player’s relationship has blossomed since November, when Harrellson complained on Twitter that he wasn’t getting enough praise from Calipari for his production in preseason games.

“He could’ve kicked me off the team if he wanted to,” Harrellson said. “But he saw something in me and stuck with me. Coach Cal has pushed me to the fullest these last couple of months. He’s turned me into a new man.”

As well as Harrellson is playing, there is still plenty of room for him to improve. That’s especially true on the offensive end. Harrellson is averaging just five points and has scored four points or less in seven of the Wildcats’ 11 games.

He said Calipari wants him to call for the ball more often, and instead of shooting 1-footers – he’s missed a few of them this season – Calipari wants him to be more aggressive.

“I said, ‘You dunk every ball, I don’t care if you miss the dunk,’” said Calipari, adding that he also wants Harrellson to take more charges. ” [still], if he’ll rebound and do what he’s doing, we can’t ask much more. We’re just saying, ‘Give us five percent better. Where can you improve? How can you draw a foul? Where can we put you to get a couple of baskets?’ He’s doing everything.”

And loving every minute of it.

Harrellson said he still has regular conversations with Patterson and often receives congratulatory texts from Cousins and John Wall. They couldn’t be more proud of their former teammate, who has been referred to as the “mother hen” of a squad that features three freshmen in its rotation.

“I just try to come out and play my game and do what I’ve got to do and go after every rebound with two hands,” Harrellson said. “I tell myself each game that I’m going to outwork my opponent. I may not be as talented as him.

“But I’m going to outwork him.”

Did it cross your mind to just post the link to that?? Geezus.

[Box and Won]

Josh is a St. Louis kid who wanted to play for SLU out of HS but wasn't offered. I wish him all the best. He was a monumental failure in player evaluation by UB.

UB is still waiting to offer Lance Stemler.

[Quality Is Job 1]

UB is still waiting to offer Lance Stemler.

I'll excuse the OP, but why are the rest of you perpetuating discussion of the previous regime? It's over, let it go.

[kevinfootes]

For two years he was the guy on the end of the bench, the seldom-used forward who received sympathy minutes at the end of blowouts, a recruiting mistake who seemed better suited for a Division II school instead of a big-time program such as Kentucky.

Or at least that’s what people thought.

More than a month into his senior season, Josh Harrellson has proven everyone wrong. Instead of just becoming a serviceable replacement for ineligible center Enes Kanter, Harrellson has made a quantum leap from his previous role as a reserve big man.

More From Jason KingQ-and-A with Kentucky's Brandon Knight Dec 26, 2010 All about the non-Big Six: Gael force Dec 25, 2010 These days he’s a legitimate force in the paint – especially when it comes to rebounding.

The 6-foot-10, 275-pound Harrellson is averaging 9.4 boards per game for the No. 13 Wildcats, who will take a 9-2 record into Tuesday’s game against Coppin State.

Josh Harrellson's play inside has given John Calipari something to shout about.

AP

Harrellson’s out-of-nowhere success has led some analysts to dub him as one of the biggest surprises of the college basketball season. The label doesn’t bother Harrellson. Heck, he’s somewhat stunned himself.

“I never expected this,” Harrellson said. “I never thought I’d be able to do what I’m doing now.”

Harrellson’s lack of confidence was understandable. He averaged just 1.3 points in four minutes per game last season playing behind standout post players DeMarcus Cousins, Patrick Patterson and Daniel Orton. When Kentucky signed Kanter, a future NBA lottery pick, in the spring, Harrellson figured he’d be relegated to the bench once again as a senior.

Things changed, though, when Kanter was declared ineligible by the NCAA. Kentucky has appealed the ruling, but even if Kanter is allowed to play the second half of the season, Harrellson has done enough to continue to play significant minutes.

“It feels good to finally see rewards and to know that hard work really does pay off,” Harrellson said. “It’s not bogus when people say, ‘When you work hard it pays off in the long run.’ It actually does. I stuck with it, and now I’m seeing the benefits.”

So, too, is Kentucky.

Harrellson’s 14 boards against Pac-10 favorite Washington propelled the Wildcats into the championship game of the Maui Invitational last month. The senior has posted 10 or more rebounds in each of Kentucky’s last three contests, all of which resulted in wins.

Calipari, who said he’s been getting phone calls from NBA scouts about his “big, white center” couldn’t be more pleased with Harrellson’s progress.

“I told Josh, ‘There aren’t that many dominating big guys out there,’” Calipari told reporters earlier this month. “Josh can be whatever he wants to be. He can paint his own canvas. He can paint his own masterpiece. He can do whatever he wants.”

He didn’t realize it then, but Harrellson said going against players such as Cousins, Patterson and Orton – all of whom are in the NBA now – in practice last year readied him for some of the stiff competition he’s faced so far this season. He also said going head-to-head with Kanter during the summer and fall enhanced his game.

More than anyone, though, Harrellson credited Calipari with his recent surge in development. The coach and player’s relationship has blossomed since November, when Harrellson complained on Twitter that he wasn’t getting enough praise from Calipari for his production in preseason games.

“He could’ve kicked me off the team if he wanted to,” Harrellson said. “But he saw something in me and stuck with me. Coach Cal has pushed me to the fullest these last couple of months. He’s turned me into a new man.”

As well as Harrellson is playing, there is still plenty of room for him to improve. That’s especially true on the offensive end. Harrellson is averaging just five points and has scored four points or less in seven of the Wildcats’ 11 games.

He said Calipari wants him to call for the ball more often, and instead of shooting 1-footers – he’s missed a few of them this season – Calipari wants him to be more aggressive.

“I said, ‘You dunk every ball, I don’t care if you miss the dunk,’” said Calipari, adding that he also wants Harrellson to take more charges. ” [still], if he’ll rebound and do what he’s doing, we can’t ask much more. We’re just saying, ‘Give us five percent better. Where can you improve? How can you draw a foul? Where can we put you to get a couple of baskets?’ He’s doing everything.”

And loving every minute of it.

Harrellson said he still has regular conversations with Patterson and often receives congratulatory texts from Cousins and John Wall. They couldn’t be more proud of their former teammate, who has been referred to as the “mother hen” of a squad that features three freshmen in its rotation.

“I just try to come out and play my game and do what I’ve got to do and go after every rebound with two hands,” Harrellson said. “I tell myself each game that I’m going to outwork my opponent. I may not be as talented as him.

“But I’m going to outwork him.”

Most of us (myself included) don't care too much about recruits that got away, although this info most likely upset at least one poor soul who posts on here regularly.

[Iggy]

Most of us (myself included) don't care too much about recruits that got away, although this info most likely upset at least one poor soul who posts on here regularly.

Agreed, however, still pissed about the recruit we 'sent away'...Upchurch...that may have pushed us over the edge...this current situation has me just as much (if not more) upset.

[kevinfootes]

Agreed, however, still pissed about the recruit we 'sent away'...Upchurch...that may have pushed us over the edge...this current situation has me just as much (if not more) upset.

I agree that Upchurch was an entirely different situation than recruits who simply decided to go elsewhere. IMO, the Upchurch situation was a million time worse than our current problem. There was never any debate about his conduct. He went to summer school and completed was he was asked to do.

[Box and Won]

I'll excuse the OP, but why are the rest of you perpetuating discussion of the previous regime? It's over, let it go.

You've been here long enough to know that we don't let things go. It's the kind of thing that's going to happen any time you get a group of Billiken fans together, be it in person or on a message board. The same could be said for fans of any other team.

We still talk about Upchurch. We still talk about missed recruits. We still talk about botched hires. We still talk about games that should have been won, how a particular team would have fared had a certain player not gotten hurt, or just how in the hell did that Chia-head on Mizzou hit that three-pointer against us at the buzzer in 2002.

Lamenting the past is part of the shared experience of being a fan of this snake-bit basketball program. It's cathartic.

[eastsidejoe]

You've been here long enough to know that we don't let things go. It's the kind of thing that's going to happen any time you get a group of Billiken fans together, be it in person or on a message board. The same could be said for fans of any other team.

We still talk about Upchurch. We still talk about missed recruits. We still talk about botched hires. We still talk about games that should have been won, how a particular team would have fared had a certain player not gotten hurt, or just how in the hell did that Chia-head on Mizzou hit that three-pointer against us at the buzzer in 2002.

Lamenting the past is part of the shared experience of being a fan of this snake-bit basketball program. It's cathartic.

+100

[HusakAttack]

while conklin played better this past week than normal, one still cant discount the stupid fouls and the number of high percentage shots he continues to miss. he should have scored 30+ points friday night.

Agreed. Was i the only one going crazy at his 2 dumb fouls almost at mid court at the end of the game vs Southern Miss? Not saying that cost us the game (the 1,674 turnovers did), but it sure killed any chance at a lat comeback.

[ACE]

You've been here long enough to know that we don't let things go. It's the kind of thing that's going to happen any time you get a group of Billiken fans together, be it in person or on a message board. The same could be said for fans of any other team.

We still talk about Upchurch. We still talk about missed recruits. We still talk about botched hires. We still talk about games that should have been won, how a particular team would have fared had a certain player not gotten hurt, or just how in the hell did that Chia-head on Mizzou hit that three-pointer against us at the buzzer in 2002.

Lamenting the past is part of the shared experience of being a fan of this snake-bit basketball program. It's cathartic.

I agree all of these topics should be fair game. All sports fans talk about woulda, shoulda, couldas. BTW, who is Upchurch, I see him referenced frequently.

[kevinfootes]

I agree all of these topics should be fair game. All sports fans talk about woulda, shoulda, couldas. BTW, who is Upchurch, I see him referenced frequently.

Craig Upchurch was a local player from Beaumont (6'8") who was admitted into SLU out of high school provided he passed some summer school classes at the university. Upchurch passed the coursework but was refused admission to the school afterwards because the internal politicians were gunning to get Rich Grawer canned. Upchurch went on to be a 4-year starter at Houston. He would have been the perfect counterpart to Anthony Bonner and most likely given SLU enough to get past Xavier in the old MCC and into the big dance. Upchurch never played in the NBA, but he did go to training camp once or twice (with the Hawks I think).

[doowop]

I believe that if Upchurch had been admitted it would have started a steady stream of quality ballplayers to SLU, especially the top local players. SLU would probably have made a number of consecutive appearances in the NCAA tournament. I heard that there were those at SLU who did not like Grawer. The same is true of RM, except for different reasons.

[Iggy]

I believe that if Upchurch had been admitted it would have started a steady stream of quality ballplayers to SLU, especially the top local players. SLU would probably have made a number of consecutive appearances in the NCAA tournament. I heard that there were those at SLU who did not like Grawer. The same is true of RM, except for different reasons.

I'm starting to think that SLU's greatest rival is SLU.

[GoBills]

The reporter should have asked Josh if Lexington Kentucky is closer to home than Macomb, Illinois.

[slu72]

Lamenting the past is part of the shared experience of being a fan of this snake-bit basketball program. It's cathartic.

And that past is really nothing but a quagmire of mediocrity. It's convinced me that the only way SLU's bb program ever becomes relevant is if a new admin comes in and recognizes that a note worthy hoops program provides benefits beyond just Chaifetz arena.