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Here is the structure of America and just a few reasons why i'm ok with it being obliterated:
White Americans with military style weapons can verbally attack police officers and face no repercussions while black Americans who kneel during the national anthem lose their job...
Corporations bailed out 10-12 years ago get another bailout because they spent their tax break on stock buybacks...
America is responding to a pandemic like a third world country...
Large areas of the US don't have running water, but have to face a pandemic without federal assistance...
Public cash flush firms get PPP dollars...
Jared Kushner's companies refuse to grant relief to tenants during a pandemic...
People of color, thanks to decades/centuries of oppression, are dying disproportionately...
Our president thinks we should inject disinfectant...
Tens of millions unemployed but only a fraction receiving assistance...
Tons of food being destroyed while millions starve...
Thanks to the federal government seizing supplies, states secretly negotiating with foreign countries government to get essential medical supplies to its citizens...
70,000 dead is considered success...
 
 

Nick, I’ve met you and think you’re an awesome dude. I will say the quoted portion above is the epitome of white privilege.  Go to the black and brown neighborhoods, go to Navajo Nation, go to the Zia Pueblo...these are places that America has forgotten. Many of these locations don’t event have running water.  I’m pissed.  I’m pissed for these humans that have been fuoked. I’m pissed that our country is more concerned about corporations than they are about humans.   There are people in our country that can’t get running water, electricity, and/or internet.  And then these ppl get the plague and no assistance.  You know what...it pisses me the F off. 
 
You’re a solid dude; I have nothing against you. I’m exhausted by a majority that has zero understanding how people have been fuoked by this country for a long time. 

Yep, I’m rooting for an end to everything i posted in that message. If you can’t call it out and/or recognize it, then that’s on you. 

I’m not asking for perfection, I’m demanding that we attack inequity as ferociously as we can. 

Old guy, you need serious help.  You hope a member of the Billikens community will die from COVID19 (you still haven't apologized to @courtside for that outrageous post). Also, you've been consistently wrong in this thread.  So maybe...just do some self reflection.
p.s. @SluSignGuy, why is Old Guy still allowed to post? 

Cool.  But I won't hope for someone to die, so I have that going for me.

Cool.  But I won't hope for someone to die, so I have that going for me.

Here is the structure of America and just a few reasons why i'm ok with it being obliterated:
White Americans with military style weapons can verbally attack police officers and face no repercussions while black Americans who kneel during the national anthem lose their job...
Corporations bailed out 10-12 years ago get another bailout because they spent their tax break on stock buybacks...
America is responding to a pandemic like a third world country...
Large areas of the US don't have running water, but have to face a pandemic without federal assistance...
Public cash flush firms get PPP dollars...
Jared Kushner's companies refuse to grant relief to tenants during a pandemic...
People of color, thanks to decades/centuries of oppression, are dying disproportionately...
Our president thinks we should inject disinfectant...
Tens of millions unemployed but only a fraction receiving assistance...
Tons of food being destroyed while millions starve...
Thanks to the federal government seizing supplies, states secretly negotiating with foreign countries government to get essential medical supplies to its citizens...
70,000 dead is considered success...
 
 

Old guy, you need serious help.  You hope a member of the Billikens community will die from COVID19 (you still haven't apologized to @courtside for that outrageous post). Also, you've been consistently wrong in this thread.  So maybe...just do some self reflection.
p.s. @SluSignGuy, why is Old Guy still allowed to post? 

@SluSignGuyif you won't ban @Old guy, then delete my account.  I appreciate the forum you've provided. You are a great moderator and the Billikens community is lucky to have you (and Nark and @Quality Is Job 1). But if we're cool with the antics of Old Guy on this thread, then I don't want to be a part of this board. 
I've made a lot of friends through this forum and the Billiken community.  I hope to cross paths with each of you in the future. I'll continue to cheer on the Billikens.  
ball game. 

Here is the structure of America and just a few reasons why i'm ok with it being obliterated:
White Americans with military style weapons can verbally attack police officers and face no repercussions while black Americans who kneel during the national anthem lose their job...
Corporations bailed out 10-12 years ago get another bailout because they spent their tax break on stock buybacks...
America is responding to a pandemic like a third world country...
Large areas of the US don't have running water, but have to face a pandemic without federal assistance...
Public cash flush firms get PPP dollars...
Jared Kushner's companies refuse to grant relief to tenants during a pandemic...
People of color, thanks to decades/centuries of oppression, are dying disproportionately...
Our president thinks we should inject disinfectant...
Tens of millions unemployed but only a fraction receiving assistance...
Tons of food being destroyed while millions starve...
Thanks to the federal government seizing supplies, states secretly negotiating with foreign countries government to get essential medical supplies to its citizens...
70,000 dead is considered success...
 
 

Here is the structure of America and just a few reasons why i'm ok with it being obliterated:
White Americans with military style weapons can verbally attack police officers and face no repercussions while black Americans who kneel during the national anthem lose their job...
Corporations bailed out 10-12 years ago get another bailout because they spent their tax break on stock buybacks...
America is responding to a pandemic like a third world country...
Large areas of the US don't have running water, but have to face a pandemic without federal assistance...
Public cash flush firms get PPP dollars...
Jared Kushner's companies refuse to grant relief to tenants during a pandemic...
People of color, thanks to decades/centuries of oppression, are dying disproportionately...
Our president thinks we should inject disinfectant...
Tens of millions unemployed but only a fraction receiving assistance...
Tons of food being destroyed while millions starve...
Thanks to the federal government seizing supplies, states secretly negotiating with foreign countries government to get essential medical supplies to its citizens...
70,000 dead is considered success...
 
 

Cool.  But I won't hope for someone to die, so I have that going for me.

Here is the structure of America and just a few reasons why i'm ok with it being obliterated:
White Americans with military style weapons can verbally attack police officers and face no repercussions while black Americans who kneel during the national anthem lose their job...
Corporations bailed out 10-12 years ago get another bailout because they spent their tax break on stock buybacks...
America is responding to a pandemic like a third world country...
Large areas of the US don't have running water, but have to face a pandemic without federal assistance...
Public cash flush firms get PPP dollars...
Jared Kushner's companies refuse to grant relief to tenants during a pandemic...
People of color, thanks to decades/centuries of oppression, are dying disproportionately...
Our president thinks we should inject disinfectant...
Tens of millions unemployed but only a fraction receiving assistance...
Tons of food being destroyed while millions starve...
Thanks to the federal government seizing supplies, states secretly negotiating with foreign countries government to get essential medical supplies to its citizens...
70,000 dead is considered success...
 
 

Here is the structure of America and just a few reasons why i'm ok with it being obliterated:
White Americans with military style weapons can verbally attack police officers and face no repercussions while black Americans who kneel during the national anthem lose their job...
Corporations bailed out 10-12 years ago get another bailout because they spent their tax break on stock buybacks...
America is responding to a pandemic like a third world country...
Large areas of the US don't have running water, but have to face a pandemic without federal assistance...
Public cash flush firms get PPP dollars...
Jared Kushner's companies refuse to grant relief to tenants during a pandemic...
People of color, thanks to decades/centuries of oppression, are dying disproportionately...
Our president thinks we should inject disinfectant...
Tens of millions unemployed but only a fraction receiving assistance...
Tons of food being destroyed while millions starve...
Thanks to the federal government seizing supplies, states secretly negotiating with foreign countries government to get essential medical supplies to its citizens...
70,000 dead is considered success...
 
 

Maybe this isn't a bad thing. 

Maybe this isn't a bad thing. 

The largest part of the unaccounted deaths that people are trying to attribute to COVID 19 right now will turn out to be the result of people not seeking emergency treatment soon enough for non COVID 19 issues for fear of catching the virus at the hospital.  The fear that has been installed in some people is overwhelming. So much so, that they would rather just take the chances that the chest pains they are suffering are not heart attack than getting to a hospital.
We have both irrational fear mongering going on and irrational downplaying of the threat going on at the same time.  They are both being fed for political reasons and that is why we are unable to have any kind sober conversation about where we need to go from this point.   

Really disappointed to see that Old Guy isn't banned or at least given the Metz treatment.  He wished death on a fellow board member and we're cool with that? 

Huh?  Is this a serious post?
Much of the country has been shut down for six weeks and we still have 70,000 deaths (vastly underreported) at the beginning of May. Endless medical personnel saying this is the worst thing they have seen in their lifetimes. Many patients will have long term medical problems because of it. But you are saying it isn't a big deal and the headlines are salacious. Ten years isn't a long time to live? Wow. Ten minutes matters, let alone ten years or the London study that says the average is 14 years. 25% also isn't 15k. 
The other article says that the high number of unaccounted deaths are COVID-19 related deaths not any deaths or other deaths. It indicates that thousands of people died without testing and that those deaths were not included. These were due to unable to get testing, fears of going to hospitals, overcrowding, etc...The 37,000 number, a very large number of deaths accounts for only the early stages of the pandemic, not all since. Reporting is slow and lagged, weeks behind. 
Such a dangerously cavalier attitude about a lot of unnecessary pain, suffering, and death.

I don’t think you understood my post completely. I didn’t explain the numbers, and I am too lazy to do it now, but I do not think they are necessarily wrong.
The main thing to take away is that there is a balanced way of reporting and a click bait way of reporting. We live in a world of click bait. What do you think sells more: 1) everyone is dying! Or 2) it looks like things are leveling off and maybe we oversold the risks!
I don’t care if it is cavalier. It is an anonymous basketball forum. Not the floor of the senate.

The death rate was expected to be increased this year regardless of Covid19. The article doesn’t mention that though, or account for it, right? 37,000 is actually a pretty small number overall. 
 
There is another article which notes that 10 years are being lost per death, on average. Which really means that around 1/4 of deaths are from someone with a long time to live. Right now that would be 15,000 people. 
 
I am really getting worn out by how hyperbolic the news cycle has been on Covid19. There is evidence building that the virus is just not as big of a deal as we all thought, but every news outlet is holding onto the salacious headlines with an iron grip. 

Really disappointed to see that Old Guy isn't banned or at least given the Metz treatment.  He wished death on a fellow board member and we're cool with that? 

Let's say you were a pre-med student on scholarship that got a summer job as a laboratory assistant at a pharmaceutical company, but the schools with the top 353 pre-med programs (including at least one for-profit school) got together, formed an organization, and declared that if you got paid for your lab work - or got paid for anything relating to being a pre-med student whatsoever - you would be violating the sanctity and purity of being a pre-med student, would be investigated, suspended from performing lab work and might lose your scholarship. However, there would be nothing preventing the lab from negotiating directly with the organization to pay them for the benefit of your labor. You would get nothing. Your benefit from your hard work would be capped at the value of your scholarship (which your school could pull at any time), any further fruits of your labor would flow directly to the 353 schools. Because again, that would be inappropriate and untoward and violate the purity and righteousness of what it means to be pre-med. 
The proposed changes aren't sickening. They're way past due. 
 

If SLU can be the institution that develops a working treatment for the virus, I think the basketball team should be an automatic qualifier in next year's Final Four.