SLUBALLS Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 http://slubillikens.collegesports.com/spor.../072704aaa.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kshoe Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 but damn. So much for our unbelievable guard depth. If I am counting correctly tht means we have 5 schollys for next year and 2 are accounted for (at least in some form) by TL and KL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box and Won Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Our track record with JUCO transfers is horrendous! I hope that at least Newbourne is eligible. I wonder if coach has a replacement in mind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Academic problems? That's weird. We never run into issues like this. What a joke. Here we go AGAIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 is if he ends up at another school ala Branden Morris or if he is ineligible at all D1 schools. Why can't we find guys smart enough for 24 credit hours in one summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonka Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I think I am going to apply for the new strength coach position. I'll have them on performance enhaci...Ugh, I mean I will work them out hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 my guess is that he indeed will surface elsewhere. the problem seems to be the hours needed to fit into a slu major. these guys come in with the hours to major in restaurant management or physical education, but not international economics or pre-med. since brad doesnt utilize more than 8-9 players anyway, it isnt a big deal assuming no injuries. for once we were in a luxurious position depthwise in our backcourt. it just means the likes of darren clarke has to step up and contribute meaningful minutes. personally while i was eager to see mr alexander, i am not that concerned. now if newborne or one of our counted on frontcourt guys is announced as out, then i would be concerned. imo, it puts brad in a better position to grab a couple of highly regarded transfers. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseman Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 All the more reason SLU needs to add a PE degree program. They can do it for pennies and keep it small. This is an issue that keeps surfacing and needs to be addressed by the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthington Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Well what does that mean? Are there rumors out there? A couple wks back, someone mentioned that their might be a transfer but wouldn't name names. Throw me a friggin' bone here Clark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Both Alexander and Newborne had summer school work to make up, as did TF when he came into SLU last season. Hopefully, VN made up his missing credits this summer. I think it will be a rare case that a juco transfer won't have summer school classes to pass before getting into SLU. While Alexander evidently was a terrific athlete, he was not on SLU's original hit list. My guess is that AA was our fourth choice behind Washington from Allen County, the kid from Fort Smith that went to Lamar and VN's teammate that went to Ohio State. It is my understanding that SLU had identified AA for another midwest D1 team looking for guard help when the TL situation clarified itself in the April-May timeframe. With TL not immediately available, SLU signed AA for themselves. I wonder who has been invited to walk-on this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 i would never be in favor of starting a major just so we can get in a couple of junior college basketball players. now if it is deemed that adding a physical education major is a true academic need of st louis university go for it. but for now, i have to admit i question the sense of recruiting the likes of brandon morris and antwan alexander in the first place. what was the point? how much time and effort was wasted? who did we miss out on? is this going to be an annual ritual? and if so, what does it accomplish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjray Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 I'm very disappointed to hear this news. Alexander would have added superior athleticism with an ability to slash to a team that has often struggled in that department (especially with the departure of Fish in the backcourt). With Alexander, the development of Darren Clarke could wait. Not now. We need Mr. Clarke to come in and be a significant contributor this year ... we shall need him to score and play defense. It was good to hear the report that Darren has been putting on bulk through his work with the strength coach this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 We don't need a PE major, we just need to keep working hard to improve our recruiting process and seriously limit the number of at-risk players we are signing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Someone needs to confince Biondi that you can have a legitimate Phisical Education dept. in the "Jesuit Tradition". Maybe Cheryl will be that person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 At this point its hard for me to believe that any player that wanted to transfer wouldn't have already done so. I'll beat you to the punch and say I don't think I would call Cusworth "highly regarded". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tseugnekillib Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 My guess is that Bradon Morris and Alexander were/are better students than TL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Backward fellow tell me whats wrong with a PE dept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kshoe Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 to improve his stock but AA did not. I don't know how anyone can compare TL and AA without looking at their transcripts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonwich Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 In short, if there were general student demand for a PE degree, then we should add one. If it's only to facilitate juco transfers to our program -- well, somehow or another Marquette managed to make a Final Four without offering a PE major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 the difference imo is that the juco transfer rule not only addresses the players individual academic record, but also penalizes the target school (slu) for not having the program in place for the student athlete to transfer into due to not knowing 2 years ago what school limitations there would be for a school that they probably hadnt even thought about at that time. no one is arguing that tl had academic distress, judging by all the guards that brad soderberg had stockpiled, it is my guess that the whole tl scenario was played out in coach soderberg's head long ago. and he was betting on winning the loyalty to see tl through juco or prep school time. now if tl never sets foot on slu campus, i will add him to my "why did we waste the time?" list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willie Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 Several of our former players have become high school or jc coaches. I see nothing wrong for allowing them to obtain PE coarses under the education dept. I'm not talking basketweaving but legitimate study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 tell me a year that between august and december there arent a number of high profile players that become disgruntled for whatever reason and leave a school looking for a new home? i am NOT talking about cusworth. the players i am talking about arent even thinking about leaving school yet. i am talking about that known unknown that is bound to happen. and the fact we have 5 scholarships in hand put us in a very advantageous position imo to snag one or two when it happens without derailing other current recruiting plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slufanskip Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 My understanding is that DC is really looking good ... and playing with alot of confidence. I think we will be ok. I wish we had AA though. RB graduates and he could have been the starting 2 next year giving KL a year to get his feet wet. It is clear that Brad doesn't want to put up with someone who cannot pass a couple of neccessary classes at JUCO to come. He would probably struggle to make it here. Official Billikens.com sponsor of H. Waldman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiken_roy Posted July 27, 2004 Share Posted July 27, 2004 kevin lisch and tommie liddell will not need a year to get ready. with the exception of possibly reggie, they would have been the best players on this team this year imo. another reason why alexander not coming isnt too concerning. now if something happens before august of 2005 and either or both of our L's dont show, that's a different story then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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