VeniceMenace Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Can someone ask MB73 where his buddy lives so David King and I and the rest of Billikens Nation can post some "For Sale" signs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Law Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Oh, what could have been..... http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2015/11/4/9670364/ben-howland-mississippi-state-basketball-recruiting-malik-newman-schnider-herard Quite a few schools passed on Howland. He begged for the Marquette job and they didn't bite. There were others he wanted but whatever happened at UCLA and with Josh Smith tainted him badly. Mississippi State doesn't care about standards, SLU dies and should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaLBErt Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Quite a few schools passed on Howland. He begged for the Marquette job and they didn't bite. There were others he wanted but whatever happened at UCLA and with Josh Smith tainted him badly. Mississippi State doesn't care about standards, SLU dies and should. Why? I could care less how they do it. Just win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BACKHANDtheRICAN Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Why? I could care less how they do it. Just win! Agreed. It is time to start caring about winning basketball games. Period. Its not like our school rankings can be impacted, they already suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billikenfan05 Posted December 8, 2015 Author Share Posted December 8, 2015 let's talk Luke Walton... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianstl Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 let's talk Luke Walton... Walton is going to be the hottest candidate for every open NBA job. No way he considers any college job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Walton is going to be the hottest candidate for every open NBA job. No way he considers any college job. I'm really not sold on that. Steve Kerr could Skype the rest of the season from his Santa Monica beachhouse and watch Golden State repeat. That team coaches itself out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Man Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I'm really not sold on that. Steve Kerr could Skype the rest of the season from his Santa Monica beachhouse and watch Golden State repeat. That team coaches itself out there. Isn't that what they said about the early Crews era Billikens? That they coached themselves...and then this past July we saw them get bounced from The Basketball Tournament as an undisciplined mess... now let me get this straight... Crews up by not punting the UMass game....which clinched the outright conference title and certainly helped their NCAA seed? so that they would be better poised to make a run in the A10 tournament - which people forget they got totally fuoked against the Bonnies by a no-call when Jordair had his wrist grabbed and was taken down - and remained down creating a 5 on 4 which led to a wide open 3 which went in and ultimately swung the game - which would have boosted their seed to the point of not having to play an elite team in the round of 32 bull****. Having a short bench and a star player with a knee problem, they were better off losing at the buzzer in the A10 quarters than playing another game or two that weekend and risking further injury to their best player. They ended up as a 5 seed...if they lost to Umass and won 2 games in the A10 tournament they probably would have still been a 5-seed...maybe they'd have avoided Louisville - who shouldn't have been a 4-seed anyway - but you can't blame Crews for the NCAA serving them a sandwich of a draw. The Dayton home loss on senior night was with a compromised Jordair - and Dayton went on to the Elite 8 remember. The loss at VCU was expected as VCU was nearly unbeatable at home during the Weber/Graham era. They came out flat against Duquesne...that's the one game you can point to and blame Crews for...for not having them motivated, for underestimating the A10 bottom feeders, for not having a plan to contain Micah Mason...but that was their first loss in 20 games FFS. All season they won close game after close game. You want to give Jordair and the players all the credit and none to Crews...fine....but the A10 voted him coach of the year back to back years for a reason...because on paper SLU was not the best team, but 2 years running they won the conference outright. I'm as disappointed with Crews as anyone for his lack of recruiting and player development - going back to not getting Crawford into the rotation his freshman year so he could hit some motherfuoking 3s against Louisville, but let's not just rewrite history and pretend he didn't coach the sh1t out of this team his first 2 years here (or 3 if you count 2011-12). Crews was a major part of the best 3-year run in school history - let's not completely lose sight of that just because he's failing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyJumpUp Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 The "blow out" you reference turned out to be the best win not just of the season, but maybe the history of the entire program. I just re-watched that last 5 minutes plus the ot of that game. What an ending to a game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Metzinger Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Isn't that what they said about the early Crews era Billikens? That they coached themselves...and then this past July we saw them get bounced from The Basketball Tournament as an undisciplined mess... now let me get this straight... Crews ###### up by not punting the UMass game....which clinched the outright conference title and certainly helped their NCAA seed? so that they would be better poised to make a run in the A10 tournament - which people forget they got totally fuoked against the Bonnies by a no-call when Jordair had his wrist grabbed and was taken down - and remained down creating a 5 on 4 which led to a wide open 3 which went in and ultimately swung the game - which would have boosted their seed to the point of not having to play an elite team in the round of 32 bull****. Having a short bench and a star player with a knee problem, they were better off losing at the buzzer in the A10 quarters than playing another game or two that weekend and risking further injury to their best player. They ended up as a 5 seed...if they lost to Umass and won 2 games in the A10 tournament they probably would have still been a 5-seed...maybe they'd have avoided Louisville - who shouldn't have been a 4-seed anyway - but you can't blame Crews for the NCAA serving them a ###### sandwich of a draw. The Dayton home loss on senior night was with a compromised Jordair - and Dayton went on to the Elite 8 remember. The loss at VCU was expected as VCU was nearly unbeatable at home during the Weber/Graham era. They came out flat against Duquesne...that's the one game you can point to and blame Crews for...for not having them motivated, for underestimating the A10 bottom feeders, for not having a plan to contain Micah Mason...but that was their first loss in 20 games FFS. All season they won close game after close game. You want to give Jordair and the players all the credit and none to Crews...fine....but the A10 voted him coach of the year back to back years for a reason...because on paper SLU was not the best team, but 2 years running they won the conference outright. I'm as disappointed with Crews as anyone for his lack of recruiting and player development - going back to not getting Crawford into the rotation his freshman year so he could hit some motherfuoking 3s against Louisville, but let's not just rewrite history and pretend he didn't coach the sh1t out of this team his first 2 years here (or 3 if you count 2011-12). Crews was a major part of the best 3-year run in school history - let's not completely lose sight of that just because he's failing now. Interesting commentary...I would say that the difference (IMO) between Majerus and Crews from a recruiting standpoint is that Majerus' type of recruit welcomed the coaching, the teaching and the constructive criticism that only helped make them better physically and mentally. Evans, Conklin, Jett, McCall, Ellis -- he (Majerus) talked about a potter molding clay into art -- true masterpieces and the ultimate crescendo to the majesty that was Majerus the maestro -- was watching those kids develop. There are things that you can and can't teach, that's for sure. We're seeing that before our eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetorch Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Crews coaching has nothing to do with playing poorly in an offseason tournament 2 years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiken Law Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Why? I could care less how they do it. Just win!Does. Damn iPad keyboard.And how much less could you care? Seriously though, there are plenty of ethical and successful coaches one can hire. How land is not one of those, which is why he's in the SEC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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