Big East Bball continues to crumble

[NextYearBill]

Res Life shot a man just to watch him die.

Thats what happens when you've never drank a beer in your whole life

[Bobby Metzinger]

Thanks, Metz.

Again, mods, please let our little detective know that I am not BillIrish or whatever the hell it is. All you have to do is check the IP addresses like you did in the past. Very simple.

I enjoy proving old Pistol Pete wrong. His assumptions are even more delusional than I thought.

[Cowboy]

Okie, JMM, and Bizzle are KILLING it in this thread.

BillIrish, please spare us the sanctimony. No one here is a wide-eyed 10-year-old Catholic kid who'd still fall for the myth of Notre Dame (well, there do seem to be a few, which is pathetic). The football program has fallen into BCS mediocrity and had the same amount of scandals as any other program. Just because the school is Catholic doesn't mean they don't see the same stuff every other big-time football school sees. We can argue the details, but none of them are above it. At Notre Dame, just as at every SEC and Big Ten and Big 12 and Pac 12 school, it is about money first and foremost, above all else. Any reasonable adult could tell you that, and that's what makes ND alums and fans so annoying. Spare us the pretentiousness.

As for the Declan Sullivan situation, it makes me sick to my stomach that the same coaching staff is still there and they basically got a slap on the wrist after saying sorry. Having been a manager in college (for SLU basketball, which is why I'm here and not on IrishFluffers.com or whatever), I can tell you that it's hard to say no to a coach when you're asked to do something for the team- and they never asked me to do anything crazy like go 5 stories up in a scissor lift in a wind storm. That decision and the responsibility for it is 100% on the coaches, but they all got to keep their jobs after a kid died. Like I said- football and money (synonyms for BCS programs) above all else.

I don't understand- which side are you on? Are you not a SLU fan? If not, why are you here?

I've never bashed lower schools based on rankings, nor am I bashing Notre Dame because their fans do the same. I'm just pointing out their never-ending pompous douchebaggery. Never said anything about "rankings," whatever you mean by that.

Nice to see you equate crapping in a towel with negligent homicide.

-you say in another thread you try to be reasonable, i guess these responses are reasonable?

[jimbofive]

Res Life killed a kid?

wahahahaha i just picture the kid standing in a darkened room surrounded by cloaked RES LIFE priests who are charged with sentencing him for some petty crime. one by one they all slowly turn their thumbs down and then a gong sounds and a huge mutant tiger comes out of the wall led on a chain by a midget. the tiger then proceeds to fuok and then eat the kid while the midget rides the tiger bareback.

[TheA_Bomb]

Look we should all join in group hate for ND. I am all for that and filled with all kinds of sports hatred.

It would bring us together as SLU fans if we could all consolidate our sports hate and focus on a few teams. We need to work this out and all get on board with it for the sake of BillikenNation identity.

[showthebill]

wahahahaha i just picture the kid standing in a darkened room surrounded by cloaked RES LIFE priests who are charged with sentencing him for some petty crime. one by one they all slowly turn their thumbs down and then a gong sounds and a huge mutant tiger comes out of the wall led on a chain by a midget. the tiger then proceeds to fuok and then eat the kid while the midget rides the tiger bareback.

Kind of like how all the coaches sat and took bets on which kid was going to die today and when the video lift would blow over.

[Box and Won]

Look we should all join in group hate for ND. I am all for that and filled with all kinds of sports hatred.

It would bring us together as SLU fans if we could all consolidate our sports hate and focus on a few teams. We need to work this out and all get on board with it for the sake of BillikenNation identity.

Out of the schools we actually play, I have plenty of hatred for Dayton.

[showthebill]

I thought Dayton had some of the nicest fans of any teams we played.... Haven't had the same experience with the St. Joe's crowd. That could just be Philly though

[Fansince59]

Critics thought ND couldnt stay independent twenty years ago. It just drew 33000 fans to Dublin. North Carolina and Georgia Tech saw their stadiums filled when ND came to town. Stanford, Pitt, every school fills the stadium when the Irish visit.

[Pistol]

-you say in another thread you try to be reasonable, i guess these responses are reasonable?

Yes. Why don't you think so? Many others agree with me. I'm not making anything up. I wouldn't go on the attack unless there were people here defending ND irrationally.

[Pistol]

Again, mods, please let our little detective know that I am not BillIrish or whatever the hell it is. All you have to do is check the IP addresses like you did in the past. Very simple.

I enjoy proving old Pistol Pete wrong. His assumptions are even more delusional than I thought.

Again, mods, please ban this poster. He failed to support the troops even once in this post.

Go ahead and prove me wrong, Metz. Point out my delusions. I'm looking back and don't see them, nor anywhere you prove otherwise.

[TheA_Bomb]

Pistol we all know you don't support the troops. If you did you would've offered to send me some Sweet-Tarts but you haven't. Do you know how hard they are to come by in the Horn of Africa.

So back to the hate-train. So far we have proposals of Group Hate for:

Dayton

ND

I would like to add the following:

SPUMAC

Marquette

SMS

X

SIU

We can rank our hate levels later but I think we need to all get on the same page as to who we should hate the why doesn't matter the more irrational and just pure emotional the better.

Again, mods, please ban this poster. He failed to support the troops even once in this post.

Go ahead and prove me wrong, Metz. Point out my delusions. I'm looking back and don't see them, nor anywhere you prove otherwise.

[Fansince59]

Hatred of other schools? I don't hate X, Dayton, ND or Marquette, or even Duke. These are good schools. Here are rotten pples everywhere. We have had our issues too I repect SLU for beefing up its academics, campus and basketball program. Easy to *****, but we are doing well without becoming a joke school.The schools that were a joke were Miami in Jimmy Johnson's tenure, UNLV under Tark, where the schools themselves let totally unqualified players in. There were others but to dis schools because jealousy is silly.

[Cowboy]

Yes. Why don't you think so? Many others agree with me. I'm not making anything up. I wouldn't go on the attack unless there were people here defending ND irrationally.

-seems a bit over the top

[billikendave]

Notre Dame has the highest graduation rates in D1 football and 100% grad rate in basketball. Based upon that factor alone, they are not like anyone else. I don't think you can reasonably say they are a football factory like an SEC school unless you have blind hatred. There are bad people everywhere and bad decisions made everywhere.

http://stanford.scout.com/2/1066657.html

http://espn.go.com/blog/notre-dame-football/post/_/id/1906/irish-top-ncaa-graduation-rate

[Box and Won]

Pistol we all know you don't support the troops. If you did you would've offered to send me some Sweet-Tarts but you haven't. Do you know how hard they are to come by in the Horn of Africa.

I actually developed an algorythm that assigns a score to each Billikens.com poster based on his level of support for the troops, and Pistol ranks surprisingly well. If he were to send you some Sweet-Tarts, I predict that he would move up at least eight spots in my ranking system.

[OkieBilliken]

Hatred of other schools? I don't hate X, Dayton, ND or Marquette, or even Duke. These are good schools. Here are rotten pples everywhere. We have had our issues too I repect SLU for beefing up its academics, campus and basketball program. Easy to *****, but we are doing well without becoming a joke school.The schools that were a joke were Miami in Jimmy Johnson's tenure, UNLV under Tark, where the schools themselves let totally unqualified players in. There were others but to dis schools because jealousy is silly.

Never understood the hatred towards Dayton. They seem to have a fan base most similar to ours.

Notre Dame has the highest graduation rates in D1 football and 100% grad rate in basketball. Based upon that factor alone, they are not like anyone else. I don't think you can reasonably say they are a football factory like an SEC school unless you have blind hatred. There are bad people everywhere and bad decisions made everywhere.

http://stanford.scou.../2/1066657.html

http://espn.go.com/b...graduation-rate

I cant believe we are discussing Notre Dame's graduation rates. If I cared enough I could write a dissertation on all of the disgusting behavior that Notre Dame players, coaches, officials have perpetrated. Does it go on everywhere? It does. Is there one school that claims they are above it all? There is. There is no other school, with a possible exception of Brigham Young, that alumni tie their religious faith into some blind support for their teams, but Ive never heard anyone from BYU claiming moral superiority. ND's denial-mindset reminds me more of Penn State. They both havent been relevant in fifteen years but cling to the past. Penn State clung to Joe Paterno the same way Notre Dame faithful cling to Catholicism to prove to themselves that they are somehow better than everyone else. It didn't work out well for Penn State and it certainly isnt working out well for Notre Dame (ie looking the other way on rape, total failure to take meaninglful responsibility in the death of that student manager).

[jimbofive]

I actually developed an algorythm that assigns a score to each Billikens.com poster based on his level of support for the troops, and Pistol ranks surprisingly well. If he were to send you some Sweet-Tarts, I predict that he would move up at least eight spots in my ranking system.

i have footage of stamos shooting a camel in the face point blank with a handgun. what does that do for me? is that like a road win?

[Fansince59]

Never understood the hatred towards Dayton. They seem to have a fan base most similar to ours.

I cant believe we are discussing Notre Dame's graduation rates. If I cared enough I could write a dissertation on all of the disgusting behavior that Notre Dame players, coaches, officials have perpetrated. Does it go on everywhere? It does. Is there one school that claims they are above it all? There is. There is no other school, with a possible exception of Brigham Young, that alumni tie their religious faith into some blind support for their teams, but Ive never heard anyone from BYU claiming moral superiority. ND's denial-mindset reminds me more of Penn State. They both havent been relevant in fifteen years but cling to the past. Penn State clung to Joe Paterno the same way Notre Dame faithful cling to Catholicism to prove to themselves that they are somehow better than everyone else. It didn't work out well for Penn State and it certainly isnt working out well for Notre Dame (ie looking the other way on rape, total failure to take meaninglful responsibility in the death of that student manager).

[Fansince59]

Notre Dame took complete responsibility over the death of Declan Sullivan. Admitted it and Sullivan family has said so. You are completely wrong. Hatred of ND for Sullivan tragedy is just wrong.

[Pistol]

Pistol we all know you don't support the troops. If you did you would've offered to send me some Sweet-Tarts but you haven't. Do you know how hard they are to come by in the Horn of Africa.

So back to the hate-train. So far we have proposals of Group Hate for:

Dayton

ND

I would like to add the following:

SPUMAC

Marquette

SMS

X

SIU

I sent a care package stuffed with Sweet Tarts, booze, and porn. No clue why it didn't get there.

As for the hate list, do you want a ranking for those? Also, I would like to add Duke to the list.

[MB73]

I sent a care package stuffed with Sweet Tarts, booze, and porn. No clue why it didn't get there.

As for the hate list, do you want a ranking for those? Also, I would like to add Duke to the list.

Pistol:

Hypothetical, what team would you rather have to replace SLU and reprent us the last 25 yrs instead of the SLU teams that did?

Criteria:

1) success on the court, overall wins, overall RPI, conference champtionships, conference tournament championships, NCAA wins, NCAA Final 4's, NCAA Championships

2) academic prowess and national USA Today ranking of the educational instution and the academic prowess of the players overall

3) ethics; clearnliness of program... fewest incidents, violations, thugs

4) player NBA successes after leaving college

5) coaches credentials and ethics and awards including leading The USA national team.

Name 5 teams. Kentucky? Syracuse? Memphis State? Cincinnati? Florida? North Carolina? Who? Rank your top 5 in order.

[MB73]

nm

[OkieBilliken]

Notre Dame took complete responsibility over the death of Declan Sullivan. Admitted it and Sullivan family has said so. You are completely wrong. Hatred of ND for Sullivan tragedy is just wrong.

Nonsense. The fact that your sleezebag coach is still employed is evidence against it. I don't know what you do for a living but if my negligence caused the death of someone who i was responsible for, chances are I would not be working there any more.

[Bobby Metzinger]

Nonsense. The fact that your sleezebag coach is still employed is evidence against it. I don't know what you do for a living but if my negligence caused the death of someone who i was responsible for, chances are I would not be working there any more.

^Brent Musberger?