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4 minutes ago, gobillsgo said:
Can we all at least agree that relying on Thames to be any sort of contributor would be foolish? I hope he’s somehow able to play a role on this team, but if I have to hear next spring Thames being out was a reason we stunk again, I might lose my mind. Go into the season expecting he won’t play, and any actual contribution is house money.
We struggled last year because there wasn't anybody of similar quality behind Thames. Barring injury, I don't think that's an issue this year. If Thames is playing 20 min a game and has to go out again, we've got a capable player behind him.
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Coach Tillett has never been in one place long enough for the fanbase to get a handle on what a Coach Tillett team looks like. But somehow she's able to make it to the NCAA tournament wherever she goes. I'm curious as to what she can accomplish over a five year period.
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14 minutes ago, Bills By 40 said:
So help me god if Otieno isn't a clear and obvious improvement from day 1 over Anya, we are screwed.
Or Anya develops a jump hook and elevates his free throw shooting to 70% over the summer. Stranger things have happened.
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The only benefit to SLU is if the local kid stays. If he isn't good enough to be in the top 8 as a freshman (most freshmen aren't), he's just going to transfer. The version of the player MBMs want is the guy that has played starter minutes 30-60 games somewhere else and is significantly better than he was in high school.
You can only get that guy in the portal. You're never getting that guy if he's stuck behind two upperclassmen as a freshman.
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When It comes to high school guards, Coach Schertz has shown a preference for long, athletic scorers. Principia's Quentin Coleman in the 2026 class fits that criteria. And to top it off, he led his squad to a state championship the month after we offered.
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5 minutes ago, WUH said:
The quality of the schedule as a factor in attendance cannot be overstated.
I was surprised that SLU managed to draw 3,800 for a Monday night game against Jackson State.
SLU's nonconference back in the day was full of mid-majors and the house was still full. Coach Spoon, Claggs and Highmark were the hometown heroes we didn't know we needed.
Here's the home non-con in the season where Spoonball started winning:
1 Sat, Nov 27, 1993 REG Mercer TAAC -15.60 W 86 52 1 0 W 1 St. Louis Arena 2 Wed, Dec 1, 1993 REG @ Southern Methodist SWC -3.69 W 90 85 OT 2 0 W 2 Moody Coliseum 3 Sat, Dec 4, 1993 REG Cornell Ivy -15.18 W 84 47 3 0 W 3 St. Louis Arena 4 Mon, Dec 6, 1993 REG @ Creighton MVC -9.79 W 78 71 4 0 W 4 Omaha Civic Auditorium 5 Wed, Dec 8, 1993 REG Chicago State ECC -21.85 W 97 69 5 0 W 5 St. Louis Arena 6 Wed, Dec 15, 1993 REG Augustana (IL) W 97 64 6 0 W 6 7 Sat, Dec 18, 1993 REG @ Murray State OVC 3.83 W 92 89 7 0 W 7 Racer Arena 8 Mon, Dec 20, 1993 REG Samford TAAC -9.01 W 70 68 8 0 W 8 St. Louis Arena 9 Thu, Dec 30, 1993 REG Southern Illinois MVC 7.09 W 100 87 9 0 W 9 St. Louis Arena 10 Sun, Jan 2, 1994 REG Detroit Mercy MW Coll -0.05 W 91 77 10 0 W 10 St. Louis Arena 11 Wed, Jan 5, 1994 REG Missouri State MVC 0.15 W 81 48 11 0 W 11 St. Louis Arena -
The only time we filled the arena is with a 1) A folksy grandfatherly figure and 2) hometown heroes. In St. Louis, It's not just winning it's who you win with.
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23 minutes ago, brianstl said:
I understand VCU and Dayton consistently getting better MTE appearances than SLU. I don't understand how programs like St. Joe's, Davidson, UMass and even Fordham have managed to do it. St Joe's managed to pull the Legend's Classic and the Players Era back to back. So this can be done by programs like SLU even right now. It is just not happening here.
Sounds like there's an East Coast club and we ain't in it.
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43 minutes ago, ACE said:
Of course it is a two-way street, P6 players will move down too. The key is that there is more quality moving from mid-major to P6 than there is the other way around.
Five A-10 players in the TOP 100 moving to P6: not one player in the Top 100 moving from P6 into the A-10.
You get ranked based on stats. Player A averages 16 ppg at a mid-major. He moves up and averages 7 ppg for a P6 as an upperclassman. Player B averages 4ppg as underclassman at a P6, moves down and averages 16 ppg. According to the portal ranking, Player A is a higher quality player than Player B. But is that true?
By definition the guys moving down won't have stats. That's why they're moving down. In some cases its an indicator of quality. In other cases, it isn't.
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22 minutes ago, willie said:
Agree it is a 2 way street. But at least this year in the A-10 the street is moving uphill.
Early in the transfer cycle you'll see players move up and later in the cycle you'll see players move down. It was the same thing last year. Our program is an outlier in not only getting multiple P6 transfers, but getting them this early.
It's not unusual to see players still committing months from now. Javon Bess didn't commit to us until June. And that was pre-portal. There are more players looking for new homes now.
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23 minutes ago, willie said:
Not trying to pick a fight but 3 star has been saying that the mid majors would benefit. We seem to be the only A-10 team getting players from the majors.
I said the portal is a two way street. Strong performers from our conference move up and weak performers from the P6 move down. We don't seem to acknowledge that some of the players moving down become all-conference performers in the A10. Some of the players moving up won't do much at their new home.
I agree that programs who don't have a certain amount of money are screwed under this system. They don't have the resources to retain good players or to attract talented players who didn't pan out at the P6 level.
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1 hour ago, VeniceMenace said:
Would you call BS on this one, 3star? Respect your evaluation:
Nice SLU mention of portal success so far as well.
I found the following excerpt interesting. This sounds a lot more like reality. The 1.2 million for a role player business in that other article sounds like sports agents circulating wild numbers to improve their bargaining position.
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One program I spoke to earlier this cycle said they wanted to ensure they spent 75% of their overall budget on their projected starting five after spreading their dollars around far too much the previous year, and that general framework is something that has been echoed in a number of conversations in recent days and weeks. The thinking: Spending $500,000 each on two mediocre wings is less efficient than betting big on a $700,000 or $800,000 potential high-level starter and using a developmental piece in the $200,000 range behind them.
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I'm calling BS on CBSports's story. If the role player in the article is getting 1.2 million then how much are the starters getting: 3-5 million apiece? I don't buy it.
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15 minutes ago, BillsfaninKC said:
Huh?
Depending on the court ruling on players who came from D2, he may have one more year to hire himself out to the highest bidder. I think you will see a lot of this going forward.
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Technically Jones has better stats as a handler (5.6 assists per 100 possessions) than any guard on the roster.
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27 minutes ago, shempie said:
Do we need another guard as a primary ball handler? Feels like that might be the place we are going to be short. As designed, it is a free flowing offense, but that was a weakness last year and Green is coimg off a shortened season.
Swope wasn't the primary ball handler at Indiana State. He performed that role for us because he possessed that skill set. From what I've read, Jones and Green have a similar skill set.
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35 minutes ago, ACE said:
There are plenty of other coaches you can play for who win and aren't lunatics.
Winners get passes in all aspects of life. It ain't just sports.
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7 minutes ago, Aquinas said:
My recollection of Schertz comments about Pikaar, was more as a 3 and maybe a 4, but that he was a long way from the body mass to defend a 5.
Kerr doesn't have the body yet either. He does have a post game. Whether his skill is enough to overcome his slight frame this first year is the question.
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The bar is incredibly high for freshmen in the portal era. Either you're good enough to play 10 minutes a game on a roster with established 22-24 year olds or you're being recruited over through the portal.
Kerr won't be gifted a spot in the rotation for the sake of development. He will have to earn it. There's 80 frontcourt minutes that could easily be absorbed by Robbie, Otieno, Anya and Thames without Kerr ever seeing the floor.
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1 minute ago, WVBilliken said:
I am foliar with Furman, my wife went there for a year before transferring because her Dad moved from SC for a job in MO. But read my post. The point is he is put of eligibility pending the outcome of a lawsuit. Seems risky on SLU's part to recruit him.
We just signed 3 guards who can score and handle the ball. Coach Schertz is playing with house money. And he's recruiting other point guards simultaneously. I don't see the downside here.
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20 minutes ago, billiken_roy said:
P'Jay seems to me to be too good to be true. What the hell is he doing at Furman? are there issues we dont know about?
as to lower divisions play not being counted against eligibility. is the ncaa going completely off the deep end? are we going to have 26 year olds being treated like freshmen soon? this is not longer college is it? i am already in shock about juco not counting towards D1 eligibility. this already smells like minor leagues vs major leagues. again this is no longer college is it?
Check out Smith's explosion in productivity at Furman over a 2 year period. Great leaps over the summer aren't unique to Brian Conklin.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/pjay-smith-1.html
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6 minutes ago, gabriel said:
It hurt the team that Schertz made a run to the NIT final. Missed the 3 most important weeks of the portal last year which really hamstrung this team towards roster construction.
Extremely excited about Schertz and staff's work in the portal this year, they went out and got their guys. If next year isn't a success, then I think it's valid to hold Schertz accountable, but last year was a wash in my mind. There were flashes of his vision, but ultimately was hurt by the lack of depth.
Schertz has been awesome and has been the best thing to happen to this program since Majerus, I understand the skepticism, but I think you should give way more time for him to build his program, rather than casting large judgements after one year. I couldn't be more excited about the future and I'm a pretty pessimistic guy.
We've got 7 months until next season. If MBMs don't continue to hack away at last season, this board goes silent. Normally we would talk portal recruiting for the next 3 months, but Coach Schertz and company have done an amazing job already.
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10 minutes ago, gobillsgo said:
We lost a ton of production, just not to the transfer portal. Without further additions, does anyone actually think our roster is stronger than it was going into this season?
hoping for some more additions.
I don't know. On paper, they are more productive than the portal transfers Coach Schertz brought in at Indiana State. I have to see them play. The next 7 months is just Speculation Season.
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What's the advantage in getting a player out of high school ranked in the 75-150 range and getting them as transfers two years later? The player in the second scenario actually has a better chance at playing. The freshman version has to outperform two upperclassmen.